Another shooting in the US.

NorthAmericanguy · Post by **NorthAmericanguy** » May 24th, 2014, 5:45 pm

SilverEnergy wrote:If it's not working out in America.....you gotta go overseas.

And in California???

California is escort heaven if you have the money to pay for one.

I just saw this article today. It's sad all around considering it's all over sex. Just think about it, if some girl gave him a blowjob, this all could have been avoided.

That boys father is a disgrace (because he saw the videos and called the authorities on his on son instead of taking him to a cat-house). If I was that kids dad, I would have taken him to a nice hotel and set him up with an escort of his choice.

How the sexual market works in America is by default, to a woman's advantage, whereby, either:

1. You're a pure alpha male who most women want to f**k at least once.

2. You're a man who is willing to invest in a serious and expensive relationship just to get some sex here and there with one woman.

Unfortunately, not every guy can or wants to fit into these molds.

@silverenergy The thing is, the kid is only 22, and at that age, if your daddy don't teach you about P4P, you just don't know that world even exist because it's an underground world. It's like with steroids, there is no advertisement anywhere to buy legitimate steroids (i.e, Dianabol, Tren, NPP), but go to any real gym and you will clearly see that some guys obviously purchase steroids from someplace, and use them.

Furthermore, America trains men to think that using escorts/sex workers is not only for losers, but it's morally wrong because they erroneously promote that every single sex worker is working against her will and trafficked somehow. That mentality is beat into so many western men is causes western men not to even look for sex workers even though they have legitimate need for sexual contact that needs to be addressed. It's clearly a biased system because they only care about the sex workers, but completely disregard the men who are lacking sexual and emotional fulfillment.

droid · Post by **droid** » May 24th, 2014, 6:43 pm

Ha, more demented Californians!
Santa Barbara in particular is a f*cking asylum, but nobody admits it. And with some of the bitchiest girls in America, specialized in making you feel like scum.
Not to justify this idiot, but those unfriendly/cocky nut-jobs can infect anyone in there.

droid · Post by **droid** » May 24th, 2014, 6:46 pm

NorthAmericanguy wrote:@silverenergy The thing is, the kid is only 22, and at that age, if your daddy don't teach you about P4P, you just don't know that world even exist because it's an underground world. It's like with steroids, there is no advertisement anywhere to buy legitimate steroids (i.e, Dianabol, Tren, NPP), but go to any real gym and you will clearly see that some guys obviously purchase steroids from someplace, and use them.
Furthermore, America trains men to think that using escorts/sex workers is not only for losers, but it's morally wrong because they erroneously promote that every single sex worker is working against her will and trafficked somehow.

Priceless.
And for this guy probably America was "the world".

Cornfed · Post by **Cornfed** » May 24th, 2014, 7:00 pm

It is events like this that vindicate the position of most posters here of recognizing there are serious problems with modern society, identifying the problems and trying to come up with solutions.

Maverick · Post by **Maverick** » May 24th, 2014, 8:16 pm

This is my neck of the woods....total chaos!

I was actually in the general area and heard the gunshots. Saw one of the bicyclists on the ground with his lower leg snapped in half. Nasty site! One of my friends actually saw the impact.

Lots of crazy things happen in Isla Vista. There was a riot there a couple months ago and I was inadvertently tear-gassed. Damn, this place is a trip!

S_Parc · Post by **S_Parc** » May 24th, 2014, 8:29 pm

NorthAmericanguy wrote:That boys father is a disgrace (because he saw the videos and called the authorities on his on son instead of taking him to a cat-house). If I was that kids dad, I would have taken him to a nice hotel and set him up with an escort of his choice.

If I were any guy's dad, I would have flown him to Australia, NZ, or Thailand at the age of 17, during the last two weeks before he'd turned 18.

During those final two weeks before the transition to legal adulthood, I would have interviewed, every top notch esc@rt in the vicinity, and found the best one, who's able to help a young kid, feel good about himself, and make the transition.

Then, upon his 18th birthday, I'd pay to have the best of the best, spend the entire day/night with him, showing him the best time in the world.

Thus, when he becomes an adult, he gets the best experience with a woman.

abcdavid01 · Post by **abcdavid01** » May 24th, 2014, 9:14 pm

Woo boy, that takes me back. Yup, reminds me of myself as a teenager. I've been too busy trying to make HA a reality for myself to post here. I plan on starting a family and I feel like if I tried it here there's a good chance I'd have a son like that.

Banano · Post by **Banano** » May 24th, 2014, 9:36 pm

â€œHi. Elliot Rodger here. Well, this is my last video. It all has to come to this.
Tomorrow is the day of retribution, the day in which I will have my retribution against humanity, against all of you.
For the last eight years of my life, ever since I hit puberty I have been forced to endure an existence of loneliness and unfulfilled desires all because girls have never been attracted to me. Girls gave their affection and sex and love to other men but never to me.
I am 22 years old and still a virgin. I have never even been kissed by a girl.
I have been through college for two and a half years, more than that, and I am still a virgin. It has been very torturous.
College is the time when everyone experiences those things such as sex and fun and pleasure, but in those years I have had to rot in loneliness. Itâ€™s not fair.."

Sounds like typical case of TFL that caused him to lose his mind
Part of the issue is that the poor guy thinks he is the only one going through it because no man like admitting that he cant find gf or laid.
In the end many men suffer in silence and then this happens.

S_Parc · Post by **S_Parc** » May 24th, 2014, 9:38 pm

abcdavid01 wrote:Woo boy, that takes me back. Yup, reminds me of myself as a teenager. I've been too busy trying to make HA a reality for myself to post here. I plan on starting a family and I feel like if I tried it here there's a good chance I'd have a son like that.

Yeah, today's parents, need to keep an eye on their sons. My dad was lucky, in the sense that I was more or less, completely self-sufficient. I didn't need my dad, the day I'd turned 17. He's lucky in that regard.

So yeah, I was lucky, in the sense that certain AWs did want to have sex with me, during those formative years. I couldn't imagine being a virgin by the age of 22. That would have been traumatic for me. At least I got the rite of passage over with, early in life.

Tsar · Post by **Tsar** » May 24th, 2014, 9:45 pm

S_Parc wrote:So yeah, I was lucky, in the sense that certain AWs did want to have sex with me, during those formative years. I couldn't imagine being a virgin by the age of 22. That would have been traumatic for me. At least I got the rite of passage over with, early in life.

I'm a virgin at age 24. I won't compromise anymore and I will only accept a girl that will make it all worth it. There's no point in me just losing it to any girl. I want to lose it to a very attractive virgin foreign girl, preferably age 16 after I marry her. That was everything would be worth it and I could experience what it's like to have an exciting, youthful, fun, genuinely happy, and more innocent girlfriend that will adore me, look up to me, and respect me. That would make up for all my suffering and pain, and it would give me some inner-peace and genuine happiness.

Maverick · Post by **Maverick** » May 24th, 2014, 9:54 pm

S_Parc wrote:
abcdavid01 wrote:Woo boy, that takes me back. Yup, reminds me of myself as a teenager. I've been too busy trying to make HA a reality for myself to post here. I plan on starting a family and I feel like if I tried it here there's a good chance I'd have a son like that.
Yeah, today's parents, need to keep an eye on their sons. My dad was lucky, in the sense that I was more or less, completely self-sufficient. I didn't need my dad, the day I'd turned 17. He's lucky in that regard.

So yeah, I was lucky, in the sense that certain AWs did want to have sex with me, during those formative years. I couldn't imagine being a virgin by the age of 22. That would have been traumatic for me. At least I got the rite of passage over with, early in life.

This is something that I've been thinking about as well. My natural reaction to this story was "Wow, it's not really that serious to go killing people and yourself over".

Then I started imagining what it would be like to never have gotten laid, to never have had a gf or a kiss, or even have any girl show interest in me. I've always made friends easily. What if I didn't?

Then I began to understand.

Still, at the same time, this guy is pretty good-looking AND rich. As a person that hangs out in IV often, I can honestly say that it's not very difficult to get girls here ESPECIALLY if you build up social circles. College is, by far, the easiest place to get girls in the US. Even more so at a party college like this.

So, on the one hand, I do get where he's coming from, but I still think if he tried some PUA and put some effort into it, he would have done well with women in college.

S_Parc · Post by **S_Parc** » May 24th, 2014, 9:57 pm

Tsar wrote:I'm a virgin at age 24. I won't compromise anymore and I will only accept a girl that will make it all worth it. There's no point in me just losing it to any girl. I want to lose it to a very attractive virgin foreign girl, preferably age 16 after I marry her. That was everything would be worth it and I could experience what it's like to have an exciting, youthful, fun, genuinely happy, and more innocent girlfriend that will adore me, look up to me, and respect me. That would make up for all my suffering and pain, and it would give me some inner-peace and genuine happiness.

Tsar, when I'd turned 24, I'd started going abroad, looking for women outside of America.

I don't know, being a virgin at 24, would have been torture for me. Realize this, I'm a bit of a mix of an alpha personality [ in terms of academics & business ] but also, a decent guy, not a classic player/douchebag.

Ok, I don't want to sermonize anymore but perhaps you need to find two states, one is a transition step, and then, a final step. This all or nothing approach may be a bit too much.

OutWest · Post by **OutWest** » May 24th, 2014, 10:32 pm

Killhoffa wrote:WORLD TOP 10:
Countries with highest reported crime rates:
(According to Total persons brought into formal contact with the police and/or criminal justice system, all crimes)
RANK COUNTRY Count: (2011)
1 United States of America 12,408,899
2 Germany 2,112,843
3 France 1,172,547
4 Russian Federation 1,041,340
5 Italy 900,870
6 Canada 628,920
7 Chile 611,322
8 Poland 521,942
9 Spain 377,965
10 Netherlands 372,305

First you equate a high crime rate with danger. Then you outline the number of people who are in formal contact with the police. This is a ridiculous metric. It means the police are quite efficient
at contact in the US, and a huge percentage of those are non-violent, drub and property crime as well as other bogus "charges".

The US as FAR from the leader in violent crime, and police stats are an absurd measure as this article touches on. Without enough violent criminals to feed the corrections scam, whole categories
such as drugs and "hate" crimes have been invented.

The US is way down the list...
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... violent-c/

And as the article points out, police stats mean little. If you look at police stats in some VERY violent South American barrios, there is not so much activity. The police are not interested in arresting the rampant criminals and in many cases are in cahoots with them.

The term "Reported crime rates" is of course the catch. The high murder rates the were listed do not exist in a vacuum. They are a reflection of very violent locations in general.

When people complain about the "High crime rates" few people are talking about non-violent crimes.
For the US cops of course, lots of arrests are some kind of yardstick for their success fighting "crime".

djfourmoney · Post by **djfourmoney** » May 24th, 2014, 11:04 pm

I happen to hear about this earlier today but went to YT a few hours ago and found Tommy's take on the incident.

I was disappointed.

1) He blamed the victim, not the women shot, they are victims too, not the guy on the bike he ran over, but the guy who suffered and finally had enough.

The Batman shooter in Colorado had similar problems, remember?

2) He personalized it by saying he's a victim too of people with mental problems posting videos on YouTube and blames them for not doing anything about his stalker (a BW married to a WM) and also blames YT for not calling attention to this guy's videos on YouTube.

Overall I'd say he's batting ZERO on this topic. His stalker should be reveled and stopped, but what does that have to do with a young man suffering and being shunned by women in general?

Prostitution is not and was not the answer here. Sorry but you can go on plenty of websites and find depressed men who make regular trips to the Bunny Ranch and other brothels.

They want to be able to find women who will have sex with him and a relationship with him opening his wallet. I find it funny many people critical of prostitution pay good money to take women who already know they are not going to have sex with men. They are only interested in free meals...

Tommy also blamed anti-bullying laws, believing the solution was for Elliot to be a victim of violence in school to "toughen him up". This creates all sorts of unintended consequences and I believe is short-sighted.

All this rugged individualism nonsense is what lead directly to this shooting. Those Alpha men that these women revered so, didn't protect them in the end did it?

We are all victims, another tragedy in America and all over how women have been changed since the rise of feminism.

djfourmoney · Post by **djfourmoney** » May 24th, 2014, 11:08 pm

Tsar wrote:
S_Parc wrote:So yeah, I was lucky, in the sense that certain AWs did want to have sex with me, during those formative years. I couldn't imagine being a virgin by the age of 22. That would have been traumatic for me. At least I got the rite of passage over with, early in life.
I'm a virgin at age 24. I won't compromise anymore and I will only accept a girl that will make it all worth it. There's no point in me just losing it to any girl. I want to lose it to a very attractive virgin foreign girl, preferably age 16 after I marry her. That was everything would be worth it and I could experience what it's like to have an exciting, youthful, fun, genuinely happy, and more innocent girlfriend that will adore me, look up to me, and respect me. That would make up for all my suffering and pain, and it would give me some inner-peace and genuine happiness.

S-Parc is right, you need to come up with some sort of plan. Make it all worth it???? Right man, here's the deal one more time.

I don't care if you have speech problems and introverted, you need to overcome those issues (1)

Secondly, you constantly bang on about virgins when this is 2014 and its overrated. But if that's important that you and your future wife are both virgins, go to PI already; talk to the guy who runs Christian Flips.