If pr@stitution was legal in US, how would your life change?

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Renatus wrote:Wow. Didn't know that p4p is forbidden in the USA. Tough times! Must make the dating game seem even more important to men then. In Europe (e.g. Germany ) , big brothels are commonplace and not really taboo.
The other issue is that even when you get a one night fling, more often than not, the woman is a whack job (drug and mental issues) and can follow you around, causing problems. One person I'd known, had to leave a job because the woman he was banging, showed up at the office and made a scene in front of everyone, including the executives. Well, he quickly had to leave that place as he was fully ostracized afterwards.
James Bond wrote:Yes, America is one of the few countries in the world where p4p is still illegal. The rest of the world is light years ahead of the US in terms of sexuality, America is still puritanical.
The biggest depiction of this is the distinction between the nightlife in the city of Boston [ founding city of the original Puritans ] vs that of Montreal, 5 hours away by car. In Boston, every guy is ultra-aggressive and does everything in his power to impress upon the opposite gender. It's a pitiful scene and yes, renting a Porsche helps.

In Montreal, due to all the strip clubs and legal esc@rting, the bar/pub scene is very relaxed and women do spend some time in attempting some conversation before any mind games. Usually, it's the Anglo ones who play the games. Knowing French is the key to attracting a French-Canadian and they are much better than Anglo-Canadians in almost every way. All and all, if you're tired, you don't need to pick up a mediocre '5' at a bar but can instead, go to a strip club and have a private dance with an '8' or a '9'. You can also make arrangements to have one at your hotel, as well. Regardless, it's a totally different scene from a US city where nothing is allowed.
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RI accidently decriminalized prostitution: amazing results

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"In 2003, Rhode Island unintentionally decriminalized indoor prostitution.

The state's legislature amended a law in 1980, believing that the law inadvertently outlawed some forms of consensual sex between adults. That amendment created a legal loophole — one that sat unnoticed until 2003, when a District Court judge interpreted it to mean that paying for consensual sex was not a criminal offense in Rhode Island, not if it took place privately indoors. It took the state until 2009 to close the loophole.

The state's little legal accident was a bit embarrassing. But it did have a silver lining: it could serve as a "natural experiment," allowing researchers to estimate causal effects of decriminalizing sex work.
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S_Parc wrote:
jamesbond wrote: women would have to become more friendly towards men because they would not be getting hit on as much.
I think you could legalize everything and AWs will be the same. Remember, they live in a fantasy land of being pursued. Thus, no one has to ask 'em out.
jamesbond wrote:I dream of living in America where p4p is legalized. OK, it might be a pipe dream but someday the politicians might get it right and legalize p4p. :D
Well, a new tax base is an incentive. And given the current jobless ahem *recovery*, anything's possible.

But yes, it would be an awesome thing. I can imagine going to Boston's North End, enjoying a nice Chicken Marsala dish ... go up to an apartment around the corner and bo*nk away for an hour. Afterwards, walk a few blocks and catch a Celtics b-ball game and if Boston wins, I'll go back and bo*nk some more 8) Seriously, that would be a great :) You guys in Australia don't know how good you have it.
Good post, Parc. :-) +111111
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:I might likely have genital warts and several other STDs.
Basically you feel that the US of Gay is imminently done-for and legalizing P4P would be like casting your sperm pearls to AW swine in that inDUSTry. I comprehend.
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Renatus wrote:Wow. Didn't know that p4p is forbidden in the USA. Tough times! Must make the dating game seem even more important to men then. In Europe (e.g. Germany ) , big brothels are commonplace and not really taboo.
Yes, America is one of the few countries in the world where p4p is still illegal. The rest of the world is light years ahead of the US in terms of sexuality, America is still puritanical.

In Europe brothels are common and some cities have zones where street walkers are allowed.

The funny thing is the rate of STD's in countries where p4p is legal, is lower than it is in countries where it's illegal like the USA.


America needs to get with the rest of the world and legal p4p!

Duhhhh!! The feminist machine stateside knows this already hence the ongoing Puritanism yet the ongoing skallie-dog waggin'.
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Not by much. I only want a decent wife.
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Once my salami slides between a nice pair of knockers, my interest in what the woman actually thinks about ... pretty much vanishes.

I think this is a function of getting bored with the same olde same olde (plus being in one's mid-30s) and the fact that a vast majority of women really aren't all that interesting to start with and thus, I have a hard time understanding how men so much, want women's respect and regard.
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Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.

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I personality would NEVER pay for it. But it would help my life, as in there would be less competition for women, and then the women would become more humble. That would help me. . .
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jtest28 wrote:I personality would NEVER pay for it. But it would help my life, as in there would be less competition for women, and then the women would become more humble. That would help me. . .
Which to me, means that you (and others who agree with you) care about what western women really think about you.

That's what's changed in me, over the years. Today, I could care less about 'em and what they think about or how they feel.
Many years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.

Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.

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BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
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Tsar wrote:My life wouldn't change because I'm a person that wouldn't use p4p.
Does this post mean you're trying to reach 1,000 post??? Otherwise there was no need to post here if you have no opinion and don't use this because of your obsession with virginity.
It wasn't pointless. I support the legalization of p4p in America for others to use. The question was asking others how their life would change if it were legalized and I gave a simple response.
Hence no reason to reply, other than to maybe say, you support the legalization of P4P.

Well all know how you feel (and a few others) about pre-martial sex and women aren't virgins. Since prositutes are about as far from being virgins as anything, the added remark that your life wouldn't change is obvious without even you mentioning it, making your post wasted space on the internet.
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jtest28 wrote:I personality would NEVER pay for it. But it would help my life, as in there would be less competition for women, and then the women would become more humble. That would help me. . .
Ah the myth that you never pay for it.... Of course you pay for it, up front or payments over time it doesn't matter.
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jtest28 wrote:I personality would NEVER pay for it. But it would help my life, as in there would be less competition for women, and then the women would become more humble. That would help me. . .
Ah the myth that you never pay for it.... Of course you pay for it, up front or payments over time it doesn't matter.
I think it's more a question of pride than anything related to point of sale/capitalism. Unfortunately, what that means for the avg western guy is how an AW feels is actually important to him.

For me, if you take Mel out of the equation (since I'd known her for 1.5 decades & don't equate her with the women in our society), what AWs think and feel is of zero consequence.

In fact, I'm happier nowadays, when they don't even smile anymore and go about their business because all I'd seen out there are bunch barracudas and phonies, trying to lasso a guy. Yes, once a guy's in his 30s and making money, the termites come out of the woodwork. There's a reason why Mel's stopped seeing women, even she's observed this phenomena.

Thus, a so-called one night stand [ outside of let's say a national conference/road trip] can very easily turn into stalking, as the world is a lot smaller these days and it's easy to find out where someone lives.

Fully legal P4P in America would in effect, let the productive & knowledgeable guys go about their business because as President Coolidge said, 'The business of America is business'. We can make our money, invent the next widget, write the great American novel, and so-forth w/o a bunch of leeches, trying to steal from us.
Many years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.

Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.

AB discussion thread

BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
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This legal/illegal p4p talk is pointless, it is already legal in a way,Jump on craigslist, backpage, gumtree and there are many places where you can get sex for $$. They maybe called massages or whatever and money you give to her is only a gift, not payment for sexual services, thats how illegal brothels operate in Australia.

Coke, ice, marijuana are illegal but you can get it anywhere, legalizing p4p would only invite governments to raise taxes as they have done to tobacco and alcohol.
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Banano wrote:This legal/illegal p4p talk is pointless, it is already legal in a way,Jump on craigslist, backpage, gumtree and there are many places where you can get sex for $$. They maybe called massages or whatever and money you give to her is only a gift, not payment for sexual services, thats how illegal brothels operate in Australia.

Coke, ice, marijuana are illegal but you can get it anywhere, legalizing p4p would only invite governments to raise taxes as they have done to tobacco and alcohol.
They just need to de-criminalize it, if not legalize it.

All over my metro area, there are countless sting operations and entrapment schemes in place. Yes, I hear about one every month or two. One was them was just walking distance from my home, if that gives you an idea. Likewise, the police have also hired teenagers to infiltrate restaurants and order alcohol illegally, to fine the establishment. If you want to take a chance with the men in blue, well, that's your prerogative. Just so you know, you'll then be a registered sex offender and your name will be made available to residents & police in your location.

The USA is a near full blown police state. There is zero correlation between Australia and the USA in this dept. I had zero issues down under.

And what you're talking about are illegal bawdy houses. Here, in order to 'legally' pay the companionship game, she will have to meet you for a game of blackjack at a casino, before going upstairs. Aside from a clever ruse like that, where it's then completely legal (as you're paying someone to play blackjack with you), the cops will make it stick in court.
Many years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.

Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.

AB discussion thread

BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
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