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Cornfed wrote:As stated, in general people are not paid for their talents any more. As more jobs are automated or otherwise done away with, less and less people will be paid for their talents. Look at all the money paid to corporate whores, and they are probably not even that good at giving out blow jobs in the main. Also, even if you are talented in something, there is no guarantee that you will be considered for positions. Suppose your talents were in office admin and management. Do you think you would be considered for employment by this firm:http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/11/ ... ate-harem/
You sound like you have a bigger chip on your shoulder than even me! So what's your suggestion then? Hang out in mom's basement until the storm blows over, c'mon thats not realistic. Plus the storms not blowing over any time soon.
If you're looking for a job and you're having a hard time landing interviews then you need to be sending a higher amount of CV's each week. From what I have seen every 15 CV's I send to targeted job postings, I land an interview. Out of about 3 telephone interviews I have I get 1 second interview. For every 3 second interviews I complete, I get a job offer.

- 100 targeted CV's sent out = 6.6 telephone interviews.
- 3 telephone interviews = 1 second interview.
- 3 second interviews = 1 job offer.

Now of course if you sit there and do the math, out of 100 cv's I won't get enough second interviews so I need to boost the number of CV's I send out.

135 CV's sent out ÷ 15 = 9 interviews
9 ÷ 3 = 3 second interviews
3 ÷ 1 = 1 job
Cornfed wrote:For this to work, a number of assumptions would have to be true. You would need to be in a reasonably large city, the appropriate industries would need to be expanding rather than contracting, you would need to be eligible on the basis of gender, race, experience etc. Generally, where people are having trouble finding a job this is not the case.
Well yea, no shit. Do you go whale hunting in the desert?... Wanna go job hunting in Detroit, USA or Naples, Italy? :roll: Yea I thought so.

Here's a list of best metropolitan areas to find a job, anything under 5% unemployment rate is good and shouldn't take a person more than 2-3 months to find a gig.

http://www.bls.gov/web/metro/laummtrk.htm
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eurobrat wrote:So what's your suggestion then? Hang out in mom's basement until the storm blows over
That may not be a bad idea in many cases. Had I been doing that over the last few years instead of trying various things I would be at least $20k richer.
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Cornfed wrote:
eurobrat wrote:So what's your suggestion then? Hang out in mom's basement until the storm blows over
That may not be a bad idea in many cases. Had I been doing that over the last few years instead of trying various things I would be at least $20k richer.
Thats the easy way out and thats what they do in Italy and I have no respect for people who go that direction. Also those people generally go nowhere as they're not as motivated to work or even step outside their comfort bubble for new job opportunities.
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eurobrat wrote:
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eurobrat wrote:So what's your suggestion then? Hang out in mom's basement until the storm blows over
That may not be a bad idea in many cases. Had I been doing that over the last few years instead of trying various things I would be at least $20k richer.
Thats the easy way out and thats what they do in Italy and I have no respect for people who go that direction. Also those people generally go nowhere as they're not as motivated to work or even step outside their comfort bubble for new job opportunities.
Well, that was clearly my thinking, but here I am out $20k with nothing to show for it. Sometimes the easiest way is the best. Also, is may be the right thing to do by society, since in these times of collapse we need to be putting down roots locally and conserving resources.
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eurobrat wrote:So what's your suggestion then? Hang out in mom's basement until the storm blows over
That may not be a bad idea in many cases. Had I been doing that over the last few years instead of trying various things I would be at least $20k richer.
Thats the easy way out and thats what they do in Italy and I have no respect for people who go that direction. Also those people generally go nowhere as they're not as motivated to work or even step outside their comfort bubble for new job opportunities.
Well, that was clearly my thinking, but here I am out $20k with nothing to show for it. Sometimes the easiest way is the best. Also, is may be the right thing to do by society, since in these times of collapse we need to be putting down roots locally and conserving resources.
$20k is nothing and will come and go more in your lifetime a few more times. What you should have done was forced yourself to invest that money into something tangible (with return) instead of keeping it liquid and letting it fly away.
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OutWest wrote:Are you reliable with a good attitude and good with people? Go someplace where there are QT gas stations. A full time clerk there starts at 40G, health insurance and a 401k. It sounds like you are stuck in never never land...you need to get out.
PM me if you want to discuss specifics.
Are you shitting me? I had no idea Quick Trip employees were paid so well. I wouldn't want to do it for work but at least the option is there for people and $40k in a place like the midwest isn't bad at all, enough to save up and reinvent yourself in another country after a year or two.
Both QT and Trader Joes are good places for someone in the position...yes its $40g for starting full time slots at QT plus benefits.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/compa ... ear-2013-3
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eurobrat wrote:And don't listen to Public's anti-US jargon, theres still plenty of money to be made in that country. I know a few Italians working in the US who say it's like heaven compared to the jobs they would get in Italy.

The US is growing slowly at a steady 1.9% meanwhile Italy is shrinking just as fast at -1.9%. Now you can all see why I left Italy, and even with Germanys minuscule growth I still feel economically more sound here.
It might well be ahead of Italy due to its residual infrastructure, but the edifice is collapsing at breakneck speed, too. The US is posting growth thanks to seasonal jobs and Wall Street magick. No friggin way the economy is getting better at the rate of 1.9 per year. If that were the case, Main Street would have noticed and had a real reason to cheer up.

As a European let me guarantee you: given your life/work situation, you have gained next to nothing swapping Italy for Germany. Cheaper beer and P4P, maybe? That's about it.
I don't know what your take is on main street USA, but I do not see the gloom and doom that you see. I see measured optimism and careful growth. Comments like...it's not booming, but we are growing. In Portland, the real estate market suffers from lack of supply. I am involved with a small start-up involving the West Coast of the USA and a couple of Chinese companies. We will have difficulty expanding fast enough to meet demand. I belong to a number of small business related organizations, and in the Western US as least, the tone is nothing like the doom and gloom you are talking about.

I am sure there are patches of green all around the US and I am glad you are involved in one of them. Not be cheesy, but I would be surprised to know a man of your wisdom stuck in the middle of a pond. Trouble is, from what I can read outside a pompously cheerful mainstream press, the employment picture isn't rosy overall. Much of the optimism fuelled by CEOs, financial analysts and commentators seem to have more to do with the growing financialisation of business models and assets (stock buyback, M&A, aggressive cost cutting via outsourcing and competive sourcing), rather than economic fundamentals, e.g. IP and market share growth.

What are your companies involved in? I am curious! I know some of the few remaining buoyant sectors are those related to medical technologies and services, oil & gas projects, and obviously high-end luxury.

Building a composite picture with "data" is a fools errand. With all the hot air flowing about jobs or no jobs, which posters are:
Engaged in business as employers
Actively developing a business.
Working in the personnel department of any growth sector company.
Developing new products and or services which will drive the economy.

??????

I seriously doubt that the naysayers are at all engaged in any of the above. Before Corny jumps in and tells me what a privileged baby boomer Jew I am, I can say that I was born without squat.
I talk about jobs out there because I talk almost weekly with men who want to hire people, who have
entry level and better jobs available that require such advanced job skills as actually showing up to work on time, being drug free, and having basic personality skills. The rest is negotiable.

I also talk with numbers young men(Under 30) who did not like the job they had and wanted something different. They did not see one on the horizon and so they have started some venture, usually on a shoestring. I know a small 2 man remodeling venture, a soap maker, a smaller brewery owner, a window washing service, a lawn and tractor service, a welding service, a young woman with a new beauty products supply business, and last but not least, 4 young men who pooled all they could beg borrow or steal to start a unique coffee bar, fine spirits and a unique fusion style menu with a heavy Spanish tapas tilt.

Yes, they have an exit plan. If they do not make it work, it means they will all have debt service and will move back home while they take their lumps. They are long on personality and ambition but low on cash, but they understand customer service, which already puts them in the minority.
They have signed up over 600 "charter customers" who will get special deals and discounts. They are set to open this fall.

As to your question Public, the companies are specialty steel products and manufacturing equipment designers and fabricators...Less than 300 employees each, although one is a small treasure trove of senior engineering talent. The market regions are the Western US and Latin America, initially in Chile next year, while the Western US is ongoing.
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OutWest wrote:
eurobrat wrote:
OutWest wrote:Are you reliable with a good attitude and good with people? Go someplace where there are QT gas stations. A full time clerk there starts at 40G, health insurance and a 401k. It sounds like you are stuck in never never land...you need to get out.
PM me if you want to discuss specifics.
Are you shitting me? I had no idea Quick Trip employees were paid so well. I wouldn't want to do it for work but at least the option is there for people and $40k in a place like the midwest isn't bad at all, enough to save up and reinvent yourself in another country after a year or two.
Both QT and Trader Joes are good places for someone in the position...yes its $40g for starting full time slots at QT plus benefits.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/compa ... ear-2013-3
Those are all decent companies, it's funny I go to Aldi's here in Germany and see the Trader Joes brand name on food all the time. It's funny I have worked for a slew of different companies and also take notice in the way they "operate". Obviously the companies you listed are good companies, I have worked for places that made a lot of revenue but they chose to operate as though they were running a taco shop, some as though they were selling knives to babies etc. etc.

These companies obviously realize the true cost of high turnover and training new employees, some companies I worked for didn't and preferred to treat employees as cattle shuffling them around and sending a batch to butcher at a moments notice. It's funny at one point I could have sworn they were paying more in hiring costs and training new personnel then it would have been to evaluate the job responsibilities and see why these people weren't successful. A lot of companies are quick to blame employees, but from what I have seen there's nothing worse than bad middle management and directors.
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publicduende wrote:"Stupid niches" aren't a replacement for "decent jobs with pension and healthcare schemes, reasonable career advancements, 10/15 (25/30 in Euroland) paid holidays a year". What we have been witnessing in the past decade or so is advanced carpentry to put the final nails in the coffin of the labour market as we have known it for millennia. The elite doesn't need us, full stop. If a company can triple its market cap by buying smaller companies and fire a half of their employees, or get tens of millions to billions of zero interest dollars from the Fed and use it buy back their own stocks, why do they need "us"?
Corny actually posted a good video on the upcoming automation age for the west. Maybe one is better off living in a society like the Philippines or Columbia, untouched by the modern world.
cornfed wrote:Here is an interesting clip about the coming automation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
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eurobrat wrote:
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eurobrat wrote:
OutWest wrote:Are you reliable with a good attitude and good with people? Go someplace where there are QT gas stations. A full time clerk there starts at 40G, health insurance and a 401k. It sounds like you are stuck in never never land...you need to get out.
PM me if you want to discuss specifics.
Are you shitting me? I had no idea Quick Trip employees were paid so well. I wouldn't want to do it for work but at least the option is there for people and $40k in a place like the midwest isn't bad at all, enough to save up and reinvent yourself in another country after a year or two.
Both QT and Trader Joes are good places for someone in the position...yes its $40g for starting full time slots at QT plus benefits.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/compa ... ear-2013-3
Those are all decent companies, it's funny I go to Aldi's here in Germany and see the Trader Joes brand name on food all the time. It's funny I have worked for a slew of different companies and also take notice in the way they "operate". Obviously the companies you listed are good companies, I have worked for places that made a lot of revenue but they chose to operate as though they were running a taco shop, some as though they were selling knives to babies etc. etc.

These companies obviously realize the true cost of high turnover and training new employees, some companies I worked for didn't and preferred to treat employees as cattle shuffling them around and sending a batch to butcher at a moments notice. It's funny at one point I could have sworn they were paying more in hiring costs and training new personnel then it would have been to evaluate the job responsibilities and see why these people weren't successful. A lot of companies are quick to blame employees, but from what I have seen there's nothing worse than bad middle management and directors.
Crappy management compounds negative results...compounded daily as they say.
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OutWest wrote:Crappy management compounds negative results...compounded daily as they say.
Yea I don't know, back in the day managers were more helpful and prideful of their team. Now a day's the newer generation of people going into management like to go around and point fingers and spend more time trying to be the office warrior/hero rather than actually working.
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OutWest wrote:Crappy management compounds negative results...compounded daily as they say.
Yea I don't know, back in the day managers were more helpful and prideful of their team. Now a day's the newer generation of people going into management like to go around and point fingers and spend more time trying to be the office warrior/hero rather than actually working.
No surprise you see Trader Joes brand at Aldis...Trader Joes is owned by the same family...
that of Theo Albrecht.

If you have a public education system that specializes in turning out crappy human beings...well, the work force and management teams eventually begin to show it.
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OutWest wrote: If you have a public education system that specializes in turning out crappy human beings...well, the work force and management teams eventually begin to show it.
Not sure what future the corporate world holds for oneself, unless you perhaps are "one of them".
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OutWest wrote: If you have a public education system that specializes in turning out crappy human beings...well, the work force and management teams eventually begin to show it.
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Not sure what future the corporate world holds for oneself, unless you perhaps are "one of them".
Become a commando...a specialist in asymmetrical operating...a master of camouflage and a subversive for the good...and NEVER be unemployed. You are: Between jobs, upgrading, or changing from being employed by others to being employed by yourself...become an expert at providing significant value to others in terms of goods, services or experiences.
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OutWest wrote:
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OutWest wrote: If you have a public education system that specializes in turning out crappy human beings...well, the work force and management teams eventually begin to show it.
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Not sure what future the corporate world holds for oneself, unless you perhaps are "one of them".
Become a commando...a specialist in asymmetrical operating...a master of camouflage and a subversive for the good...and NEVER be unemployed. You are: Between jobs, upgrading, or changing from being employed by others to being employed by yourself...become an expert at providing significant value to others in terms of goods, services or experiences.
Thats what I keep telling these guys I really think little niches are a good way to go and you can even be self employed and make good money.

I met a guy in Kansas he owned a little micro company called Dr. Scrubs, he supplied nurses with uniforms he imported from the far east and had two vans going and said he was profiting about $4,000-$5,000 a month selling 200 uniforms a month and making $25-30 a piece off of them. He claimed he didn't even spend much on marketing because referrals from these girls telling their nursing friends was huge and they were coming to him because you know how girls want to try on the clothes first.

But there you have it, a good example of a simple business niche thats profitable and in Kansas $4,000-$5,000 a month is good money. Also the guy was older, a younger good looking guy could kill two birds with one stone and even get a few dates a month out of doing something like this.

Food for thought...
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