The Philippines: Not What It's Cracked Up to Be

[MarcosZeitola]

Winston, me, Mr. S, Mr bluelight, Will n Dowd, combined have about a magnitude of 1000 to you and a few select posters. We all overwhelming contradict. Ill beleive them since they have a higher statistical sample space.

Mr. Bluelight is apparently a troll and should be called Mrs. Bluelight, if we are to believe Rock. His refusal to meet anyone is... suspicious, to say the least.

Winston is Mr. Angeles City.

Willy is MIA and a gigantic narcissist who I'm pretty sure is full of shit half the time.

You? Lol, don't get me started on you.

If a woman is a "dead fish" in bed, you're not trying hard enough or you're somehow lacking.

[newlifeinphilippines]

Winston, me, Mr. S, Mr bluelight, Will n Dowd, combined have about a magnitude of 1000 to you and a few select posters. We all overwhelming contradict. Ill beleive them since they have a higher statistical sample space.

Mr. Bluelight is apparently a troll and should be called Mrs. Bluelight, if we are to believe Rock. His refusal to meet anyone is... suspicious, to say the least.

Winston is Mr. Angeles City.

Willy is MIA and a gigantic narcissist who I'm pretty sure is full of shit half the time.

You? Lol, don't get me started on you.

If a woman is a "dead fish" in bed, you're not trying hard enough or you're somehow lacking.

What about Mr. S?

mr bluelight confirms what I think too so I think he has a more accurate assesment than most posters as far as describing his sexual experience than the guys who met 3 girls and fell in love and married.

Nice try but your glossing over the fact that most filipinas in general are just like most women. Ill believe my experience and those guys over guys who married the first girl they fell in love. What do you expect to fall in love with a dead fish of course you guys who married your first loves (or the 2nd or 3rd girl you had) who just luckily were very sexually driven are gonna have a different experience than someone who gets a larger sense of the women there and how they really are.

No woman was a dead fish but only cause i had to encourage them or instruct them. None i would say had any kind of chemistry in their personality that made them attractive in the sense you knew they were full of lust or sexual drive. Typical filipina is rather bland inside and outside of the bed. If you can't see that its only cause your young and handsome foreigner so you get more attention but your experience isn't what most guys get. But all in all only one girl i met i would say had a natural keen liking for sex in the way you or anyone else describes and she was a bar slut and even her she didn't have a crazy sex drive i had to initiate it (and then she would act it out). Even most of the bar sluts dont have a true natural sexual appetite.

[newlifeinphilippines]

I think happier abroad is a fairy tale like PUA. The guys who get high quality women will get it anyways without much work and the guys who struggle will always struggle.


women are the same everywhere. I dont care what anyone says. They all are uppity, money grabbing, low libido.

If you're a chump in america, youll be a chump anywhere, the only difference is your wallet will be lighter after a trip abroad. And ive seen no evidence to the contrary. All the success stories are cause they are 100 times richer than their partner in the 3rd world and many had to go through a lot of crap to find such a girl.

The day i see women chasing after men in 3rd world is the day ill believe some women are different.

[lasttry]

Women are indeed similar everywhere, but there are difference classes of women. There are sexually liberated American women and sexually liberated women in other countries. The problem in the United States is that these women tend to congregate in the big cities and have good careers and don't need a man for money and can be very selective. Back in San Francisco, I had an easy time because I in a hotbed of such women and I had a lot more money then and I was much younger. Of course, these sexually liberated career women have issues, which is why I never stuck for more than a few years with any of them. Now I'm in nowheresville and the class of women I seem to be encountering is just useless sexually or else a complete PITA like that single mother I had last year.

What happens when you go to a place like the Philipines or other poor countries, is that you are rich by local standards and so have access to a different class of women you wouldn't have access to the United States. But they are still women, and even the sexually liberated career women are low libido by male standards and otherwise something of a PITA to deal with.

Someone married and with children like MarcosZeitola additionally has the huge stick of threatening to abandon his wife if she shuts off the sex supply. So she'll put out for sure. But I wouldn't be surprised if she starts faking after a while. If he doesn't care about faking or he can't detect faking, then it doesn't matter. A lot of men don't care. For whatever reason, I can't enjoy sex unless the woman also enjoys it, so faking ruins things for me. I'd rather masturbate.

[newlifeinphilippines]

Women are indeed similar everywhere, but there are difference classes of women. There are sexually liberated American women and sexually liberated women in other countries. The problem in the United States is that these women tend to congregate in the big cities and have good careers and don't need a man for money and can be very selective. Back in San Francisco, I had an easy time because I in a hotbed of such women and I had a lot more money then and I was much younger. Of course, these sexually liberated career women have issues, which is why I never stuck for more than a few years with any of them. Now I'm in nowheresville and the class of women I seem to be encountering is just useless sexually or else a complete PITA like that single mother I had last year.

What happens when you go to a place like the Philipines or other poor countries, is that you are rich by local standards and so have access to a different class of women you wouldn't have access to the United States. But they are still women, and even the sexually liberated career women are low libido by male standards and otherwise something of a PITA to deal with.

Someone married and with children like MarcosZeitola additionally has the huge stick of threatening to abandon his wife if she shuts off the sex supply. So she'll put out for sure. But I wouldn't be surprised if she starts faking after a while. If he doesn't care about faking or he can't detect faking, then it doesn't matter. A lot of men don't care. For whatever reason, I can't enjoy sex unless the woman also enjoys it, so faking ruins things for me. I'd rather masturbate.

yes my bargirl never initiated but she was one hell of a faker cause she would go through the whole porn style acting and faking cumming 5 times a day. Either it was real or she faked it most of the time. I even screwd her sometimes 6 to 9 times or one time more than once in a row she would claim to orgasm and she still would do it so thats when i started doubting it. She was just a great actress. What always got me though is i was the one always initiating and if i cut off sex she wouldn't usually initiate it, or it was mutual initiatinon. Id like to find a girl who truly loves sex. Honestly ill probably have to settle on that issue cause my other requirements are already strict enough but if she is super hot and someone i can trust and we connect well ill forgive her on that. I had an issue with milf girl cause she was just so damn boring and although pretty i just couldn't get into the sex, a pretty girl like that i couldn't stand. my filipina gf had low libido etc but shed give into sex and shed try her best to please me sometimes without attitude so she was a bit better. Plus i felt more sexual chemistry with her.

[lasttry]

For people who can masturbate, and you confess to being a compulsive masturbator since your teens, and for whom none of the first 6 motives applies, validation is the primary reason for wanting sex, and that seems to be the case for you.

Yes, validation and also to experience physical and emotional sensations of intimacy that I crave.

You're unlikely to get the emotional intimacy you desire with a young girl in a foreign country, for whom English is a second language, and who is so desperate for male companionship that she takes the initiative with a much older foreign man who is only going to be around for a few weeks. This is really asking too much. Nor do I see that you'll get any validation from such a girl, in the sense of silencing those voices in your head that won't let you be at peace. Maybe you'll get some physical intimacy. But you could get that here from P4P. Just find a better hooker than what you've used so far.

I continue to think going for older women here in the United States via partner dancing is the right road for you. As I noted previously, the ONLY thing older women lack compared to younger women is p***y smell. Young women have it, older women lack it. If you didn't have sex early on in life, then your brain might not be hard programmed for young women p***y smell. That is, it is quite possible your aversion to older women is just because society disapproves of it. That sort of programming can be overcome. If you don't believe older women are more or less the same as younger women other than for smell, take a look at your own inner thigh versus those of a man in his 20's, or any part of your body that hasn't been exposed to sunlight. Is there any difference? What does differ between you and younger man is the sex smells given off by your testicles--young men have it, older men lack it or have it in a much reduced quantity.

If you really can't work with older women and won't do the partner dancing, then the situation is hopeless, IMO. But you can still continue hoping and use that hope to motivate you to travel, which is enjoyable for its own sake, and not just to get sex. The difference between sex and masturbation is really very small. If someone told me I could never have sex again, only masturbation, it would be only a small letdown. In fact, I have an attractive (though older) American woman who is right now pursuing me for sex and I'm turning her down because I'd rather masturbate given what a PITA she is outside bed. That should tell you how little value women really bring to the table, sexually speaking, for a man who is uninhibited, highly skilled and unashamed about masturbation.

[newlifeinphilippines]

well id turn down sex too if its an older woman lasttry like you go after. Now a hot woman thats what we really want and there is a huge difference between the two. One is worth the aggravation and risk the other isn't and you just want to stay in your room or walk away. Thats why i wont get married unless the girl is hot. Why settle for less i have no reason to settle for less I dont need a woman for children like some guys do. I might as well be single.

[globe-trotter]

I think happier abroad is a fairy tale like PUA. The guys who get high quality women will get it anyways without much work and the guys who struggle will always struggle.


women are the same everywhere. I dont care what anyone says. They all are uppity, money grabbing, low libido.

If you're a chump in america, youll be a chump anywhere, the only difference is your wallet will be lighter after a trip abroad. And ive seen no evidence to the contrary. All the success stories are cause they are 100 times richer than their partner in the 3rd world and many had to go through a lot of crap to find such a girl.

The day i see women chasing after men in 3rd world is the day ill believe some women are different.

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[globe-trotter]

For people who can masturbate, and you confess to being a compulsive masturbator since your teens, and for whom none of the first 6 motives applies, validation is the primary reason for wanting sex, and that seems to be the case for you.

Yes, validation and also to experience physical and emotional sensations of intimacy that I crave.

You're unlikely to get the emotional intimacy you desire with a young girl in a foreign country, for whom English is a second language, and who is so desperate for male companionship that she takes the initiative with a much older foreign man who is only going to be around for a few weeks. This is really asking too much. Nor do I see that you'll get any validation from such a girl, in the sense of silencing those voices in your head that won't let you be at peace. Maybe you'll get some physical intimacy. But you could get that here from P4P. Just find a better hooker than what you've used so far.

I continue to think going for older women here in the United States via partner dancing is the right road for you. As I noted previously, the ONLY thing older women lack compared to younger women is p***y smell. Young women have it, older women lack it. If you didn't have sex early on in life, then your brain might not be hard programmed for young women p***y smell. That is, it is quite possible your aversion to older women is just because society disapproves of it. That sort of programming can be overcome. If you don't believe older women are more or less the same as younger women other than for smell, take a look at your own inner thigh versus those of a man in his 20's, or any part of your body that hasn't been exposed to sunlight. Is there any difference? What does differ between you and younger man is the sex smells given off by your testicles--young men have it, older men lack it or have it in a much reduced quantity.

If you really can't work with older women and won't do the partner dancing, then the situation is hopeless, IMO. But you can still continue hoping and use that hope to motivate you to travel, which is enjoyable for its own sake, and not just to get sex. The difference between sex and masturbation is really very small. If someone told me I could never have sex again, only masturbation, it would be only a small letdown. In fact, I have an attractive (though older) American woman who is right now pursuing me for sex and I'm turning her down because I'd rather masturbate given what a PITA she is outside bed. That should tell you how little value women really bring to the table, sexually speaking, for a man who is uninhibited, highly skilled and unashamed about masturbation.

I like masturbating, but I always wonder how great it must feel to enjoy full body contact with a woman. If (unlike me) one has no issues with this, it must feel heavenly. I want to know what it feels like to enjoy this, because, until now, it hasn't felt good for me.
On the other hand, it might be devastating to discover--this late in the game--that I actually liked sex all along. That would mean that I wasted the best years of my life-- years that I will never get back.

As far as dating older women, I'm just not into that.

[globe-trotter]

you can lead a horse to the water, but you cannot make him drink. It's time we let horsy be, and make his own mistakes. It's not my life, or yours, but his and his alone. The consequences of his actions are also fully his. Nothing we can do about it. Just wish he wouldn't have used such a misleading title...

This is a faulty analogy, I'm afraid.
A more accurate analogy would be: I was a horse that was led to water, with the promise that I would easily be able to drink it. What they didn't tell me, however, was that once I reach the water, I would have to climb over a very steep fence in order to drink. Nothing wrong with doing a little work in order to get your reward, but it can be a problem when my legs are crippled (I suffer from anxiety disorders and can't 'game' women). Had I known this from the start, I might have declined the offer to be 'led to water'.

Once again, bullshit. A better analogy:

You were a horse that was led to water, but refused to lower his f***ing head because he thought the water would magically float up and squirt into his mouth. It didn't, because that's not how the river works. The horse then returned home, thirsty, and told everybody it was a shitty river. He even wrote a book about how the river was shitty, but never mentioned his refusal to lower his head.

The horse is clearly an evolutionary failure and should get a Darwin Award for his stupidity.

To equate my inability to 'game' cranky, standoffish women with a horse refusing to merely lower his head to drink water is about as far fetched as it gets.

[globe-trotter]

Would most guys really go to the philippines if they knew they had to spend months and years digging through crap and daygame to find a good quality women? I think a lot would think twice or prolong it until they had the money and time that they had nothing else to lose at that time. Thats what im doing now that reality has hit me im in no hurry to go back to asia. I dont want to waste my precious dollars on a pipe dream.

Thank you for stating what should have been obvious to everyone here.

[globe-trotter]

Cutting off the sex supply seems to come naturally to most women.

That's because, with few exceptions, they're probably not naturally horny, which is something that I have suspected since I started growing pubic hair.

[newlifeinphilippines]

Would most guys really go to the philippines if they knew they had to spend months and years digging through crap and daygame to find a good quality women? I think a lot would think twice or prolong it until they had the money and time that they had nothing else to lose at that time. Thats what im doing now that reality has hit me im in no hurry to go back to asia. I dont want to waste my precious dollars on a pipe dream.

Thank you for stating what should have been obvious to everyone here.

thats why im staying in america right now and cautiously saving my money. Kind of bored and lonely but i know if i was to go bac to asia id lose my precious money and go back alone as a failure with a girl i dont like. I need to save my cash and mentaly and prepare for a day when im financially ready to settle down. When i can spend months and close the deal so to speak. Im not quite there yet. I dont think going to the 3rd world is ideal unless you are financially set cause those women aren't gonna help you out financially and your putting a big risk on yourself because they could divorce yo when you bring them back. Also you wont be around your family if you live overseas. Im debating if i ever even want to settle down cause i dont want to liver overseas, i dont want kids, i love to travel (id have to give that up if i married) and if i brought them to america its a huge hassle in paperwork and money and i risk a divorce if i bring them back. I see plenty of cons but not really many positives. If my parents were dead it would be easier to settle there someday but for now i have mixed feelings. Im enjoying the fact right now i can save my money and i have no drama. Im not in a hurry to rush back to asia only to have more failures and a lighter wallet LOL

[globe-trotter]

Would most guys really go to the philippines if they knew they had to spend months and years digging through crap and daygame to find a good quality women? I think a lot would think twice or prolong it until they had the money and time that they had nothing else to lose at that time. Thats what im doing now that reality has hit me im in no hurry to go back to asia. I dont want to waste my precious dollars on a pipe dream.

Thank you for stating what should have been obvious to everyone here.

thats why im staying in america right now and cautiously saving my money. Kind of bored and lonely but i know if i was to go bac to asia id lose my precious money and go back alone as a failure with a girl i dont like. I need to save my cash and mentaly and prepare for a day when im financially ready to settle down. When i can spend months and close the deal so to speak. Im not quite there yet. I dont think going to the 3rd world is ideal unless you are financially set cause those women aren't gonna help you out financially and your putting a big risk on yourself because they could divorce yo when you bring them back. Also you wont be around your family if you live overseas. Im debating if i ever even want to settle down cause i dont want to liver overseas, i dont want kids, i love to travel (id have to give that up if i married) and if i brought them to america its a huge hassle in paperwork and money and i risk a divorce if i bring them back. I see plenty of cons but not really many positives. If my parents were dead it would be easier to settle there someday but for now i have mixed feelings. Im enjoying the fact right now i can save my money and i have no drama. Im not in a hurry to rush back to asia only to have more failures and a lighter wallet LOL

Wow, your situation sounds eerily similar to mine.

I've had many of the same thoughts you have. I'm also bored and lonely. I'm aggressively saving my cash with the goal of retiring early. 50-52 y/o is the target. By then, I will have enough $$ to live off the interest from my investment portfolio.
I also love to travel, not just to get p***y, but for its own sake (I've been to 20 countries so far).
When I retire, I would also like to spend months at a time in foreign countries, with no time limit or job to return to. But, like you, I don't really want to live in the 3rd world, either, even if I am financially set.
I also have parents, and if they weren't in the picture, I might consider becoming a nomad. But I can't leave them alone. They're getting old, and I don't have the heart to place them in a nursing home when the time comes. I will do my duty as a son and make sure I'm around to take care of them.
I'm also childless. Never wanted children. Never cared for the responsibility. In fact, I knew I didn't want children (or be married) when I was a child myself--only 8 years old.

I don't know what my future holds at this point. My sex life has been a monumental disaster, riddled with countless issues. I wish I had been the proverbial man who had 'loved and lost', rather than not have loved at all. I really missed a big part of life by missing that boat.
My social life doesn't look that much better. Making friends at my age is even harder than meeting women, and it's going to get exponentially worse as I get older. The future looks almost grim. The only bright spot might be that I will have ample financial resources by the time I retire. But, as we all well know, money doesn't buy happiness.

[globe-trotter]

> For example, I flew to the Philis in Business Class, and returned in First Class. I enjoyed some of the best food on earth during my vacation in the Philippines and Japan-- tons of premium sushi, Champagne & spirits, fine pastries, you name it.

Alcohol causes facial puffiness. Basically when you're dehydrated, your body tries to hold on to water. That's what generally causes bags under the eyes, etc. So the easiest thing to try would be to drink lots of water, and cut down on salt. Doctors don't know much about this kind of holistic stuff. They know how to diagnose, give medications, perform surgery, etc.

Here's a random article I pulled up on the subject:

Don’t you just hate to see a bloated face in the mirror when you wake up every morning?

For sure, you are curious about what went wrong with your face. More than just a problem of looks, facial bloating may be a sign of a serious health condition. If something goes wrong in your body, your face will show it.

Reason #1: Poor Diet

If you don’t eat a balanced diet, you get fewer nutrients than a healthy body needs. Lack of essential nutrients in the body can result in a bloated face. In particular, it’s a sign of vitamin C and beta-carotene deficiency. On the other hand, excessive intake of fat, carbohydrates, and salt can cause face puffiness.

Reason #2: Dehydration

Dehydration is one of the most common causes of facial bloating, as the body tends to retain as much water as it can if it is dehydrated. The face is one of the areas where excess water is stored. Unfortunately, not many people realize the benefits of drinking adequate water everyday. Not drinking enough water? Well, you should start guzzling more water now to reduce bloating on your face.

Reason #3: Alcohol Intake

It doesn’t matter what kind of alcoholic drink you consume. Whether it’s beer, wine, or brandy, consuming anything that contains alcohol makes your face puffy. It is because alcohol makes you dehydrated, meaning you get thirstier after you booze up. Your body responds to dehydration by storing as much water as possible in different areas, and your face is no exception. If you had a few drinks, chances are you will wake up with a bloated face the next day. So it’s a no-brainer — cut back on your alcohol intake to lose face fat.

Reason #4: Hypothyroidism

One of the symptoms of hypothyroidism, or lack of thyroid hormones in the body, is a puffy face. Usually, this condition results in rapid weight gain, which is why the face becomes bloated. Aside from facial bloating, other symptoms of hypothyroidism include constipation, tiredness, and dry skin.

Reason #5: Face Fat

Face fat is often a problem for people who aren’t even overweight. They collect the fat normally in their cheek area or chin area. This can be fought by following certain dietary guidelines as well as a certified facial exercise program. Face exercises can be instrumental in helping you get rid of that face fat.

Apart from the five causes of facial bloating discussed above, other factors can also lead to puffiness on the face. These factors include kidney disorders, sinus infections, allergic responses to medications or insect bites, mumps, dental infection, inflammation of the parotid glands, nephritic syndrome, edema, and many others.

http://www.enformy.com/blog/top-5-cause ... oating.php

I particularly agree with this part: "If something goes wrong in your body, your face will show it."

I used to have acne, but I cured it with lifestyle changes based on internet research. Nowadays if I start to get acne, I know it means I've been drinking too much, and my liver is getting taxed and it is having a hard time neutralizing toxins.

I also agree with what others have said, that appearance shouldn't be the main issue, based on others' success in the Philippines. But I wouldn't want to go out with, e.g., bags under my eyes, like I get when I drink a lot.

I'm actually aware of many of the causes of bloating you mention here. Others I'm not (like Hypothyroidism). The problem is that there are so many things that can potentially bloat me, that I don't know where to start in terms of modifying my diet.
But even if I did know, would it be worth the effort? If, in return for permanently rearranging my diet, I would get laid a lot, I might consider it. But as things stand right now, with all my sexual issues, there is almost no incentive to do this. There aren't even significant health benefits to eliminating bloating. The benefits are purely cosmetic.