MGTOW is a false brotherhood based on electronic camaraderie. These are not your friends. They are just fools who post online everyday. Big difference. Most of those men are going to die alone while hating women with a passion for the rest of their lives. The ones who won't die alone will suffer from the very fates they despise so much because that is the only future they could foresee. They will suffer at the hands of angry women, because that's all they truly believe women are. They'll never discover the pleasant women, because their belief system precludes the existence of such women in the first placeMarcosZeitola wrote: A thought that's calming to me, is that at least those who refuse to leave the West even when they are able to, are probably not the type of person I would enjoy having as my neighbors in the Philippines anyway. What makes me sad is that there are men out there who aren't yet hopeless cases, and whose situation isn't hopeless either, who nonetheless embrace the tenants of MGTOW and get dragged deeper and deeper into the darkness by it.
Say you have a guy who's young, shy, kind of awkward around women and has an overbearing mother and absent father. He's never done well with the ladies, has a few bad experiences. Or maybe he doesn't have any experiences at all, causing him to read up on relationship advice online. Somehow, he comes across a MGTOW blog or forum. He starts reading. Gets hooked. Sandman's voice guides him away from the light, to a place where all hope has long been abandoned. He gets some of his personal bias confirmed by the experiences of others, and by their theories.
They egg each other on to withdraw more and more from society. They belittle and mock "wage slaves" and "weak betas" and laugh at men who get married or enter relationships... they praise the glory of a childfree life. They talk about hobbies such as watching sports and maintaining an expensive sports car. Some may buy a motorbike, cruise around town. Some will sleep with prostitutes, others will instead drown their sorrows in sixpack after sixpack of beer... they will only have male friends, but have a hard time finding them as most of their peers will settle down at one point, having lives of their own. Women become "the enemy" to them and as they become more and more accustomed to his toxic line of thinking, any sort of relationship with these evil 'she beasts' will become next to impossible... they're on a one way ticket to a lonely death, the type of end that leaves their bloated corpses undiscovered for weeks as no one will bother to check on the neighborhood weirdo. That crazy old bachelor. Then a pauper's grave with no one to weep at their cheap casket. While they could have had a fulfilling life abroad.
It saddens me a little. But it's probably just nature taking its course.
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A good man is above pettiness. He is better than that.
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"That's exactly what happened to me, almost to the letter. I had zero experiences with women up until age 18. I went out there and tried to meet women at parties, which I thought was what we were supposed to do. The women at the parties crapped all over me. I also look back and there were some things I just didnt understand about women at that time. The good girls don't go out to parties. You meet them in other ways. The real she-beasts are the ones at parties and online. Real women aren't wasting their time out partying every weekend or sitting up waiting for 500 admirers on Facebook. They are with their friends or family."
You sound young and very naive.
For the illiterate: NAIVE: (of a person or action) showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment. (of a person) natural and unaffected; innocent.
You are looking for the NAWALT (not all women are like that) Unicorn. The reality is that all women ARE like that (manipulative, abusive, sociopathic, destructive, drama-oriented, liars).
Societies the are more Patriarchal are better able to control their women. These women are raised the better. By going to these other nations and cultures you can enjoy better behaved women.
As for the American NAWALT Unicorn. This mythological creature if it does exist will marry early in life and stay married.
Believe what you want.
A good man is above pettiness. He is better than that.
Agreed, The Asbergers/Incel Club aka MGTOW are rarely honest about dislike of women in the first place.
It's more about the inability then the unwillingness to attract women. Think about it most men with options who are technically level 1 MGTOWs(Refuse to marry or settle for one woman.) Yet you never see them in videos complaining about hypergamy, feminism, societal collapse, dating abroad, etc. For them the system works just fine.
MGTOW is not a long term solution for most men because we need women and many foreign women more honest about this.
Agreed, PUA is about appeasing women while MGTOW is about avoiding women. Not a realistic goal long term happiness in my opinion.