MarcosZeitola wrote:.
I completely disagree, because when an incel goes on a rampage (Elliot Rodger was a very good example), I could see countless anonymous incels on the internet cheering for him and saying he should have killed 'more of those bitches". So, no, I would not say that they put p***y on a pedestal that much. Sure, they see sex as the be all, end all of life and value it highly because it is the "great unknown" for them. But this obsession often turns them sour or downright disturbed.
The "nice guy" mentality causes them to look at other men who ARE successful with women and villify them as being evil. One blog goes as far as to say, any man capable of getting a woman in today's society is a bastard.
A lot of the younger MGTOWs, IMO, are incels. Once they may have put women on a pedestal, but they turned things around, got too carried away with their MRA movement entanglement and began viewing everything from the perspective of men... and putting two and two together, decide to discard of women and relationships altogether. The women and relationship they never in fact had to begin with.
I mean have you ever even HEARD the voice of MGTOW's most famous YouTuber, Sandman? Listen to that man's voice and tell me that is not an incel. Seriously.
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1: Some incels cheer the killers on. The silent majority feel the guys pain but don't fly into a murderous rage. You know... because they arn't assholes.
What you said is about as valid as someone claiming that people who marry abroad love hitler and think the earth is flat and stationary.
I've been on the online community back when it was an email list in the mid 90s, before the main incel forum got taken over by the frankfort school/Critial theory men haters and before the collections of crazy known as PUAhate and loveshy.
Your observations are from a very biased sample. Again unless you are one of "those" guys you must realise based on HA that crazy drives out normal. Do you really think normal people go on with sort of stuff that goes on here?
Also MGTOWs from what I've read don't consider incels one of them and rightly so. MGTOW is a rejection of women. Incels by their very definition are involuntary celibate. To be a MGTOW you must remove the involuntary. An Incel might call himself a MGTOW but he really isn't one. He is just rejected. Among incels the vast majority would gladly go through anything if it thought it would get them a woman.
Of course if your only access to Incels is from MGTOW and MGTOW type groups, I can see how you could get this impression.
If your only exposure to Canadians was the protective custody section of the old Kingston Pen you would probably think weird thoughts of your joe average Canuck.
As for Sandman, isn't it still up in air as to if his voice is real or just his announcer fake voice. No normal person talks like that in normal conversation.
If he is an incel, I'd bet you dollars to donuts that he desperately wants to not go his own way and any MGTOWness he has is just inch deep bitterness.
To be a real MGTOW, a serious one, it takes more than rejection and seeing dbags get the woman. It takes actually having relationships and marriage with women and getting your heart ripped out or at the very least seeing it with most of your peer group.
I've never known an incel in real life to give up hope. I've known one to switch genders but that was after he found someone.
Actually most incels I've down, not all though actually end up getting married. It just takes a brutally long time. I've known a few who lost hope, but that isn't the same thing as saying f**k it, I'm going my own way, I don't need women. It is usually more along the line of f**k it, I will stay at home and hope video games and pizza can kill the depression of hopelessness.