Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

[The_Adventurer]

Seeing a prostitute is basically saying: I can't get laid the regular way, so I have to pay for it.

The majority of customers for prostitutes, especially in Asia, are married men.

I once asked a business associate, successful, driving a BMW and constantly being hit on by young beautiful girls, about seeing prostitutes. He said, "Normal girls don't know how to service a man like a professional."

[cdnFA]

Seeing a prostitute is basically saying: I can't get laid the regular way, so I have to pay for it. At least that is what it seems like to me. Therefore, my ego would never have allowed me. Now if you are rich and a couple of hundred bucks means nothing to you, be my guest and spend as you please. But for me, it does not seem in any way worth it.

Two hundred bucks could buy me so many other awesome things. Good food, good drinks, things that will last me longer and leave me more satisfied in the long run. You could take a cute girl out some place, have great food and a great time, then go to some motel, and you'd not only have sex without someone watching the clock but you would also have a full stomach and satisfied taste buds, an intact ego and altogether end up spending less.

If I was a single man and could for whatever reason not get laid, I might spend the money some guys here spent on hookers on having a good time with friends instead. Go on a trip, see sights, go sailing, surfing, swimming, drinking, hiking. Visit resorts, travel places, cross canyons, tame wild rivers, ride a horse, whatever. Something that I could actually talk to people about without feeling a sense of shame.

To be fair there are those of us for whom a prostitute is pretty much the only way to get laid. There are others who can get a normal girl but will suffer through intolerable dry periods between girlfriends and one night stands.

I feel no shame. I've gotten attitude from some people when I've admitted it, usually from the Jebus angle from those who have no problem getting laid and in fact date horrible people rather than be single for a month [females]. I call them on their bullshit, if they were in my shoes they would do the same thing. It is easy to judge when you get hot and cold running genitalia and I discount the negitive judgements of those who haven't been there. However most people get it.

Also I can promise you, a 40 year old virgin would get much more flack than a 40 year old who has only mongered. The "are you a virgin?" "No I exchange money for goods and services" and seeing an almost sense of relief wash over someone's face. It happens often. Maybe it would be different in the bible belt or if all your social networks are hard core cultists.

[Pinayhunter]

We can debate the pros and cons all day, but let's be real: for non-chads in the west, there isn't even a choice to be made. Either you visit hookers or you go without sex PERIOD. I don't know about you, but I can't function in society after going more than a few weeks without sex.

So yeah, it sucks having to fork over a third of my weekly salary to an entitled Americunt and then have her boot me out after an hour. But what's the alternative?

[JohnDoeBigBaller]

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[JohnDoeBigBaller]

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[Adama]

I don't know. I think a wife would be more grossed out by prostitutes than if she learned the man had affairs. In fact, men here like Fschmidt seem to imply that they believe women respect men who have or would have affairs more than they would a man who wouldn't. So that goes against the sage advice on this forum.

Also you can't say that prostitutes are more attractive than regular women. That is a false premise. There is no way to measure, but if I had to say, the opposite would be true.

Pick a woman who wants to satisfy her man and make sure she has a job. Live within your means. She obeys you, she won't leave you, because that shows that she is both content and dedicated to you. If the woman busts your balls, raises her voices, loves to disagree with you, then she shouldn't be married to any man, cause she will ruin every relationship with any man. This is how you avoid feminists and hypergamous women.

This movement has really made women into a caricature. All those things are true, but not nearly to the degree MRAs would say they are. Things are bad but they are not nearly as bad as they make them out to be. I think the man problem is that none of us can recognize what a good woman looks like because the main women we knew were all total witches. Therefore every woman looks like a total witch. But there are many sweet women out there. First you must accept that they exist. Only then will you be able to recognize them for what they are. But as long as you believe all women are the same, you won't be able to distinguish between them.

[Adama]

Seeing a prostitute is basically saying: I can't get laid the regular way, so I have to pay for it.

The majority of customers for prostitutes, especially in Asia, are married men.

I once asked a business associate, successful, driving a BMW and constantly being hit on by young beautiful girls, about seeing prostitutes. He said, "Normal girls don't know how to service a man like a professional."

I can only think of one of two things: Either he is into some really, really weird stuff that women will only do if they are paid, or he simply doesn't want to interact with normal women (likely because it requires more effort and skill than he's willing to bother with). It's easier just to pay a woman some money than to risk rejection and flaking from those beautiful girls (insults to ego and the heart).

[NorthAmericanguy]

Seeing a prostitute is basically saying: I can't get laid the regular way, so I have to pay for it.

The majority of customers for prostitutes, especially in Asia, are married men.

I once asked a business associate, successful, driving a BMW and constantly being hit on by young beautiful girls, about seeing prostitutes. He said, "Normal girls don't know how to service a man like a professional."

Exactly. I wish I had mentioned that point in my essay. That the average prostitute is FAR more skilled at sex than the average normal woman. And yea, most guys that see prostitutes are married men. If you're not married? Then do the whole PUA/game shit and game normal women AND f**k prostitutes also. If you're married? Don't risk f***ing up your marriage by having an affair. Just bang a prostitute.

I was once in a motel room with 2 escorts at the same time and we got into a conversation about the type of guys that call them and they both told me most of their customers are married men. They said the male customers don't even bother to take their wedding band off and also that a single young man is a rare customer in their business.

[NorthAmericanguy]

6. If prostitution was legal, prostitutes would have legal rights and would not longer get taken advantage of by pimps and other shady figures, including corrupt police officers. Yes, the police also contribute to the oppression of prostitutes because there are many corrupt police officers out there who blackmail and extort prostitutes for money and/or sexual favors. If prostitution was legal, all of this would end and prostitutes would finally have legal rights.

I wanted to come back to point 6 because this a topic that means a lot to me since I truly care about female sex workers. I have done my own personal research into American sex work and I was truly frightened to find out that there are hundreds (if not into the thousands) of missing/murdered female sex workers all across America. It's truly frightening, back in the old days, many women got into cars and were never seen alive again, or they were found in a landfill, found floating dead down the river, or their skeletal remains were discovered by a hiker.

Tragically, prostitutes in America are seen as less than human, and they aren't respected, so when they go missing or they're found murdered, nobody really cares other then the immediate family, if that. Say for example when Natalee Holloway went missing, her story hit major news and was featured on CNN, but when the body of a young prostitute of the same age, race, and looks of Natalee Holloway is found, nobody cares and people actually blame the prostitute for her winding up in that situation. Don't know why, but Americans just automatically equate prostitutes with disease, criminal activity, and the worse of the worse of society when in reality these women are just small business owners selling sex and companionship to feed themselves, support their children and many pay taxes just like everybody else.

Yes, sex work needs to be decriminalized because the way it is now (though it is safer now) women can't work out in the open in some type of established formal setting where people can keep track of them, and the Johns, so they hide from everybody which unfortunately makes their job extremely dangerous as it puts them in a very vulnerable position because nobody knows where they are or who they are with.

Quite simply, the underground world of American sex work is literally the playground of serial killers and sadistic predatory males who kill for sport and enjoy seeing people beg for their lives. Most American serial killers that kill women have killed women who were working as prostitutes like Gary Ridgway. It's all to easy to target sex workers to kill as no other social area in America does a woman hop into a car/truck with a man who she doesn't know, doesn't tell anyone, and submit herself fully to that strange male which is what happens during a sex act.

There are some sick individuals out here! They have found big rigs where the sleeping part of the cabin area was converted to a torture chamber, cops have pulled over vans of suspects where the owner custom fabricated the van to where that once you get inside and close the door you can't get out, and police have discovered homes where a room or basement was converted to a torture chamber.

In certain parts, it's just a known area where woman over the years have wound up missing or dead. Just sad all around. Beautiful young women who are just providing pleasure are brutally snuffed out in the prime of their lives and discarded like trash. Even the hardcore ardent feminist don't even speak up about it.



http://crime.about.com/od/missing/ig/50missingwomen/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Tears_murders
http://homicide.latimes.com/post/grim-sleeper-killings/

[NorthAmericanguy]

It seems to me like an admission of defeat, to see a prostitute. For this reason I have never seen one, plus the prices are too high and I just known I would have regretted it. Plus, it is quite possible to get with a girl more or less for free if you know how to carry yourself and don't look like absolute shit.

Seeing a prostitute is basically saying: I can't get laid the regular way, so I have to pay for it. At least that is what it seems like to me. Therefore, my ego would never have allowed me. Now if you are rich and a couple of hundred bucks means nothing to you, be my guest and spend as you please. But for me, it does not seem in any way worth it.

And this is what I have been saying all along, and that is, the male ego prevents a lot of males from paying outright for sex. American males in particular are very arrogant, cocky, and have delusions of grandeur which causes them not to consider other options that may be more beneficial to them because they view the option as "beneath" them. It's like American guys I know who wouldn't be caught dead in a Honda Accord because all they want to be seen in is a Ford 250 full sized truck.

Secondly, if you never even seen a sex worker, why are you chastising men about why they chose to see one? I have had girlfriends before, I have been in love before, but found that kind of arrangement wasn't for me, so I have some perspective.

Two hundred bucks could buy me so many other awesome things. Good food, good drinks, things that will last me longer and leave me more satisfied in the long run. You could take a cute girl out some place, have great food and a great time, then go to some motel, and you'd not only have sex without someone watching the clock but you would also have a full stomach and satisfied taste buds, an intact ego and altogether end up spending less.

Busted!You just paid for it, only indirectly. Dinner for two plus drinks cost at least $80.00. A motel for one night cost $50.00. So all total, you paid $130.00 for a woman to spend time with you who mighthave sex with you that night. On the other hand, $130.00 is the cost of an escort for half an hour to 1 hour at today's going rate with sex guaranteed. And with an escort, you can take them out to dinner and have great conversations with them as well. In fact, I prefer talking to escorts because the conversation isn't forced, nor does it feel like a business meeting as it always does when you take a regular woman out on a date.

If I was a single man and could for whatever reason not get laid, I might spend the money some guys here spent on hookers on having a good time with friends instead. Go on a trip, see sights, go sailing, surfing, swimming, drinking, hiking. Visit resorts, travel places, cross canyons, tame wild rivers, ride a horse, whatever. Something that I could actually talk to people about without feeling a sense of shame.

Yea, you would do anything but sex. You sound real fun.

The best activity in life is sex, and I feel no shame in paying for it directly. In fact, I feel shame if I get sex without compensating a woman in some way because women have needs too! They have to eat, pay bills, support family (sometime sick) and spend lots of money on beautifying themselves all at the same time.

If a woman is all done up and blows my top, the least I can do is fork over some cash to make her life easier in exchange for the good time and ease of sexual access that she has granted me.

[Ghost]

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[drronnie]

Prostitutes do not laugh when men have strange fantasies. Most girlfriends or wives will get hevily offended when you tell them that youhave fetishes. For example SWIM can only get a hard on when women were nude colored pantyhose. A prostitute will comply as long as it is out of a new package whereas will compain and say things like "you want to f..ck the hose and not me bla bla bla...."

[Rock]

The only reason a man would scorn the idea of p4p (and the men who use it) is because of his (fragile and foolish) ego. Also, sex is never free. All men pay for sex - the only matter is how you pay for it. Prettyboys almost always shame p4p simply because they can get laid because of their looks. Marcos Crapola is a good example of this. He'd rather shit on his fellow man than admit the truth.

My problem with P4P in many of the countries I've visited is that it's generally a BAD DEAL imo compared to the alternatives. Take Philippines Ho Central (Angeles City) options and contrast to girls you could meet via regular dating in Metro Manila or targeted online searches throughout Phils:

- girls who are shorter, darker, less educated, less attractive and much more likely to be single moms

- girls who may actually be more picky in who they are attracted to and very jaded due to overexposure to foreign men showering them with attention, money, and sex.

- girls who are less likely to French kiss.

- girls who are much more likely to be gold diggers or at the greedier end of materially motivated spectrum.

- girls who expect you to pay them cash or tangible gifts just for their time (ask Winston) even if it's just an outing with no intimacy.

In contrast, if you go the dating route, you can most likely find some girls who are better looking, more educated, less likely to be single moms, taller, more attracted to you, less materialistic, and more genuine.

Given all that, P4P in Phils. with exceptions here and there as a mug's game. If you only have a week or two on the ground, perhaps it's the only option. But it certainly doesn't seem very desirable.

Now do ALL guys pay for sex one way or another? No no no. Is sex ever free for some guys? Yes yes yes. In fact, some guys even get paid by women for sex or at least companionship.

- There are loads of guys in US ghettos for example living off women and the support they get from the government.

- I met a Swedish scammer in Pattaya who was using his much younger gf as a tool to scam guys on the Internet. He was living off her that way. Many guys materially use, scam, or live off women. In the opener of Stick's column from a week ago (Throwing Away the Winning Lottery Ticket), he talk's about an American guy who married a Thai girl in the States, used her for money, then divorced her.

- Male strippers and gigolos get paid by women who buy them drinks, meals, pay for their time, and support them in relationships. Watch Stephan Mol interview with a male stripper.

[The_Adventurer]

Seeing a prostitute is basically saying: I can't get laid the regular way, so I have to pay for it.

The majority of customers for prostitutes, especially in Asia, are married men.

I once asked a business associate, successful, driving a BMW and constantly being hit on by young beautiful girls, about seeing prostitutes. He said, "Normal girls don't know how to service a man like a professional."

I can only think of one of two things: Either he is into some really, really weird stuff that women will only do if they are paid, or he simply doesn't want to interact with normal women (likely because it requires more effort and skill than he's willing to bother with). It's easier just to pay a woman some money than to risk rejection and flaking from those beautiful girls (insults to ego and the heart).

I forgot to mention he's married and his wife is damn pretty. She has money also. And I never said he didn't sometimes go with those beautiful girls who hit on him.

[The_Adventurer]

Now do ALL guys pay for sex one way or another? No no no. Is sex ever free for some guys? Yes yes yes. In fact, some guys even get paid by women for sex or at least companionship.

- There are loads of guys in US ghettos for example living off women and the support they get from the government.

- I met a Swedish scammer in Pattaya who was using his much younger gf as a tool to scam guys on the Internet. He was living off her that way. Many guys materially use, scam, or live off women. In the opener of Stick's column from a week ago (Throwing Away the Winning Lottery Ticket), he talk's about an American guy who married a Thai girl in the States, used her for money, then divorced her.

- Male strippers and gigolos get paid by women who buy them drinks, meals, pay for their time, and support them in relationships. Watch Stephan Mol interview with a male stripper.

Karen Straight asks what's the percentage of men selling sex and companionship to women as opposed to the other way around? Citing the minuscule exceptions doesn't really add much to the argument. I say that as someone who has had a woman buy me gifts and pay for me. (I suppose you could say she wasn't much to look at if that balances the scales at all)

The biggest arguments in favour, especially in the case of a guy like I was speaking of, are time, as he is freaking busy, and skill.

Be honest. Have you ever gotten a phenomenal blowjob from a regular girl?