The_Adventurer wrote:Adama wrote:The_Adventurer wrote:Adama wrote:
There are two things here. First this is an over generalization. Second this is also a massive delusion. I will attempt to show you how below:
The most honest relationships are friends with benefits, because no money is involved in paying for the action.
The only problem with this is, you've already excluded this possibility under your first statement above it. That is you've already stated that women won't have sex with men unless those men pay. How is it then possible that women will have sex without men paying?
Do you see how this is a delusion? This should bring you some cognitive dissonance. Don't you find these two mutually exclusive?
Come on Adama, you make it sound like friends with benefits is somehow a very common thing. Never mind the fact that it is a very recent phenomenon. I can count on one hand the number of people I know in a friends with benefits style relationship.
In every single case, the woman was the type who wanted to be a man. She was career focused, didn't want kids, and have very little time for much else. Yet, every single guy had known in my adult life was either married or dating. You can't even compare the two.
The funny thing is, Will N Dowd seems to imply that those women you listed are the best type for relationships. What do you make of that?
Anyhow, the fact that it happens at all pretty much reduces the whole assumption that all sex with women is prostitution. It obviously is not if career women are willing to engage in FwB situations.
Look at what he's after. His only interest is in no strings attached sex . For him, that probably is the best type of relationship available. For those who might be looking for real marriage, a lot of what he has written holds a lot of weight. I've known too many guys whose woman left them because they lost their job or had some other financial mishap. It's far too easy to look at that and just say, "oh, the woman was just bad." There are always many other factors involved.
Calling it prostitution may be extreme, but you can't escape nature. A woman is going to be laid up, unable to fend for, or provide for, herself for months or years depending on how many children she's going to have. The man is supposed to pay. That's the way it should be.
I think the problem is that women are reduced to a commodity rather than accepted as persons. Women are not Ferraris to be rented and discarded. Okay if she wants to be treated that way, that's one thing. I am talking about the mindset here. It's like some men think women are useless except for sex. And that's it.
Of course that is not true. Women are far more valuable than just as sex objects. Now I am not saying that women aren't sex objects. I am not saying that women shouldnt be sex objects. I am saying they are far more than that.
And that is the beginning of the problem. If you see women as simple commodities to be purchased (I am not saying a man shouldn't purchase a woman, only that if his only use for women is purchasing them) then of course you don't see virtue within women. How can such a man see feminine virtue? His focus is only one getting some poon.
So these guys who only care about poon, who don't think women have any other virtues, are able to successfully pick women for the long term?
As far bad women, we already know who they are. They are the adulteresses, also known as sluts and whores who hop from man to man. They don't value men, and they won't lift a finger for their man. That's why it is important to find a woman who loves to please her man. If she loves to please her man, she is about satisfying her man. Those women are treasures. If you get an adulteress, of course she is going to take you to the cleaners. Because it is written that the adulteress will hunt for the precious life. Meaning whores are hopping from man to man, always looking for a better deal. Find a woman who wants to satisfy you because it makes her happy to do so. That eliminates every problem with feminism, that reduces greatly the chances of getting an adulteress.
If he just wants to bang women, he doesn't need my permission. I am just saying, these are false beliefs. Now if you want to operate under false beliefs, then that is fine. But it is a shame to use those false beliefs to justify banging lots of women. There is no philosophy behind it, except some men like to whoremonger.
Edited to add: By the way, when I was in school as an adult, I met men whose girlfriends were supporting them while they were in school. I also know a man who brags about his submissive wife, who went to prison for a year for dealing steroids (about 10 years ago now). She was the one who had to support the household and do all the work while he was in prison. When he got out of prison, she was still there.
I did meet a woman who was looking for a new man to support her after her man had been diagnosed with cervical cancer. I met her on the internet. She was complete trash. She lied about her whole life. She told me she was in college studying law, showed me only pictures of herself when she was younger and thinner which wasn't an accurate reflection of what she looked like. She also gave me the wrong address, to a vacant lot, so that she could spy on me. Her boyfriend saw my number on her phone records. He called me and explained the whole deal. Chick had not even graduated or barely graduated high school and was lazy as living hell. She had nothing which she could contribute. Neither was she willing to contribute anything. She was just a parasite. See now that is an adulteress, but you could see she was trash from a mile away. These women can't hide their trashiness. It is written all over them. Disloyalty, disrespect. It starts with the man demanding the respect that men deserve, or leaving those women behind.
A good man is above pettiness. He is better than that.