I agree with this one. I don't find mainland Chinese rude. They are just more upfront and honest. Sometimes it means they express their annoyances. Sometimes they scold me for the wrong reasons, which makes me mad. There are many stupid ignorant barbaric men in China too. But hey, at least they are real. The politeness you get in Taiwan or Japan is mostly fake, not honest at all. So it makes me uncomfortable, the fakeness I mean, more so than the rudeness of upfront Chinese does.yick wrote:I have lived here five years, my first two years were hard, but I learned was that the Chinese aren't rude - they have a different set of polite ettiquette - it isn't the west, if you are expecting them to behave politely like westerners, no - you are going to be disappointed, but once you fathom them out, they are a pretty decent bunch of people who will go out of their way to be helpful and nice - there are more arseholes back home than in China but it isn't west.I live in China, apart from playing the foreigner card. I don't really like it here. The people are materialistic as hell, basically the same as Americans but even worse - if you can believe it. They are also incredibly, incredibly rude here. Chinese culture is very callous, rude .....uncaring, there are so many damn people no one cares.
I don't see how Chinese are rude exactly. They only push and shove at subways when they have to because it's overcrowded and they can't get anywhere otherwise. But they do not cut in front of me in line when I'm at the supermarket, or even at the intercity train station. It's not like they come up behind me and kick me for no reason. Or take a book out of my hand while I'm reading it. Or sit at my table at a cafe without asking my permission first. Or reach into my backpocket like beggar kids in the Philippines do. They don't do those things, which I would consider to be rude.
There is uncivilized barbaric behavior in China. However, they don't apply to all Chinese people in general. We need to differentiate, because the women and men in China are very different. The women are very civilized, classy and refined, much more so than the men. So the common criticisms of mainland Chinese apply mostly to the men there, not the women. So it's wrong for people to say them about Chinese people in general. They need to differentiate. For example, I see lots of Chinese men spitting everywhere and making loud disgusting sounds with their throat. They tend to wait for me to pass by first before doing it, because they and Murphy's Law knows it annoys me, so they wait for me to be near first before doing it. It's typical Murphy's Law, if you hate something, it will follow you or wait til you approach before coming out. Murphy's Law is such a friggin bastard.
However, I don't see young women spitting or making disgusting. People say they do. But I haven't seen it, so it must be very rare. None of the women I saw do anything disgusting like that in public. They are very refined and civilized and lady like.
So there is a world of difference between men and women in China. People need to distinguish that when they talk about the bad habit of Chinese people.
Btw, you say men aren't entitled to sex. Well maybe, but they should be entitled to prostitution at least, which should be legal. The societies in the Middle Ages and Renaissance, and even in the Old West America, understood that and provided legal affordable prostitution. Only modern liberal socialist America doesn't understand men's needs, because deny and hate human nature. Other societies are wiser and more understanding of men's needs, including the Europe of today.
Why don't you go without sex for a year or two, Yick, and see how it feels? Maybe then you will be more sympathetic about men's sexual needs and desires.
Do they actually want to live abroad? Not really, they aren't willing to make the basic attempts to fit into their new homes - well MattHanson is learning Spanish - good for him I suppose. 
