Winston wrote:Johnny1975,
I agree with you that his style and approach is inappropriate in America. However, let's look at the bigger picture. Even if he was more appropriate, and simply made small talk with those girls, by asking them an innocent question and rolling from there, the end result would not be much different 95 percent of the time.
Suppose he started by saying, "Where's market street?" Then after that, "I'm new in town, do you know where's a good place to eat?" and then "Hey I like your purse. It's cute." etc. and rolled with it from there, the conversation still would usually end with the girl saying, "Well it's nice meeting you. Good luck." and then leaving. If you don't believe me, try it. Film it secretly if you want, but you will find that the end result is the same. The only difference is they may not be creeped out as much.
Also in the video where he was saying "I like you" to random girls, he said at the beginning that he was just following some PUA advice that he read about being honest and direct with girls. So he was trying to disprove it and showing it to be BS.
In the other video where he said a simple hi to many American girls, yeah it looked like he was just fishing for a reaction. 2 or 3 of the girls were more relaxed and said hello back to him. He should have followed up by asking some open ended questions such as "What you up to today?" or "What do you think of Obama?" or "I like your purse." or even a neg like "I like your dress. My grandma has the same one." lol
But again, usually even if you get American girls to talk, it doesn't end in a date. It just ends with them leaving and wishing you a nice day before they never see you again. I did all this in the 1990's. That's why I know it's a no win situation either way.
Btw, I think he'd do well in Russia and Eastern Europe. They love direct blunt approaches like that there. They are much more fearless about it, as I've said many times before.
I know, in the west, if you're not superman, you're a loser no matter what you do. I get it. But that's no reason to be a creepy weirdo. If he was doing this on purpose to prove a point (which I don't believe - I think he genuinely does want to meet someone), he would approach like a normal person, and then he would be justified in making any criticism of western women. But all he's doing is making it extra easy to get rejected. That's no way to prove a point. But like I say, the typical western response is no excuse to be weird.
And I'm betting that even if he went to the Philippines or wherever, sure, he'd get lots of positive responses, and hey he might even get laid, but sooner rather than later, the women there would start to notice his weirdness and be put off. It would take longer for them to see it than for western women, but it would happen. The only thing that would delay it would be curiosity about a foreigner, and the fact that people are different in different countries. But his weirdness is sufficient for any woman from anywhere to eventually notice it, even if they don't at first.
He has hints of something good, which comes out from time to time, and sometimes (whether he means to or not) he comes up with something that is actually quite alpha, and sometimes quite funny in a cool way. He has potential. I don't think he's ugly, although he does have a somewhat rough look which can be appealing to some. The thing is, just like a demon possessed person, whatever is inside of him is making him physically look like a distorted version of someone with potential. I feel like he's possessed by a demon that is making him creepy. I think sometimes he gets positive reactions because for whatever reason, at that moment, they see something cool in him, but as the conversation progresses and he says weird stuff, they are then put off.
It's so frustrating to see him mess things up (when it's actually going well) by doing one or more of the following :
- saying I like you (over and over) - there's a proper ay to say it so that one sounds confident rather than socially inept
- making inappropriate / lewd comments
- getting completely tongue tied and giggling
- generally acting weird
Also I think some women are attracted by his rough look and his don't give a shit attitude. He sometimes exudes a bit of a bad boy vibe, but it's spoiled by everything else. He's just all over the place. He's like Casanova inside Biff from Back to the Future inside Jeffrey Dahmer. Completely incongruent. Right now I'm watching a 50 minute video of him doing some sort of dating profile, and already 5 minutes in he's talking about sex and he's got his shirt off. It's ridiculous.
And so fascinating for all the wrong reasons. If he reads this, I don't want him to think that I'm complimenting him. I'm saying that you (Dan) have potential but you're spoiling it in a big way and I don't know how much criticism it's going to take for you to understand this.
Come on Dan, sort it out.
P.S. I'm developing a morbid fascination for this strange, strange individual.
