W: My God Chemist. Are you deaf and blind?! Yes we've been through this before many times, and I've explained to you in great detail that I do VERY WELL outside the bar scene! Have you forgotten it all? If so, then you are a TOTAL F***IN WASTE OF MY TIME! You don't listen. You just argue the same point over and over even when it's been debunked and refuted.
No I haven't forgotten. I have a better memory than you.
You responded to my challenge that you weren't doing as well outside of the bar scene by telling me that you get a lot of numbers from girls at the malls, stores and other public places. You have have had similar experiences in Russia. Unfortunately, this didn't mean that you could get any type of relationship with them after the initial curiosity wore off and it deffinately didn't mean that you were going to have sex with them.
In the go-go bars, you consider sex, french kisses and lap dances as being successful, but outside of the go-go- bars, you are considering yourself just as successful for only getting numbers. Why the two different standards Wu? Because even you realize that your not going to get very far with girls who don't sell their bodies for a living.
You don't seem to understand this significant change in your standards. You brag about getting free sex in the bars, but you don't have a shot with any woman that has a modicum of self-respect. I guess if they tolerate your presence for more than two minutes, it's a good day for you.
FYI, several girls kept contacting me the past few weeks because they wanted to be with me. Most of them are not from bars.
Nobody would be against killing some time Wu. But you aren't getting sex from them.
Why do you have such a hard time believing that I do well with nonbar girls?
Because, by your own admission, you don't do as well with them as you do with the bar girls.
Here my race, lighter skin, youth, and foreigner status, put me very high in the dating hierarchy here. Come here and you'll see what I mean.
I have no desire to look for a wife in the Phillipines. Phillipino women don't really turn me on. They all look underage to me.
As you know, women respond to status. Why do you think I can get laid regularly here, even among nonbar girls?
I'm sure in Angeles city, every girl is a part time prostitute. Just because you didn't meet them in the bar doesn't mean they aren't Wu.
Besides, your cheap and frugal as hell. What kind of status can you possibly have?
Even this American expat here, who is good looking but with darker skin and likes to play devil's advocate, does not deny that I am placed high on the desirability scale, since everything white here gets treated better. He has a lot more money than me, yet he only has bad experiences here. Why is that?
When your paying for sex, what does it matter what you look like? Why would he complain?
W: Doesn't matter. The point is that my needs, and the needs of the other guys here who support me, are met overseas. Whether it's having lots of sex or finding the right one, doesn't matter.
You posted the email Winston, so it did matter to you. Nice back peddling.
And yes, finding casual sex or a permanent relationship are two completely different goals that require different strategies and different plans. Your understanding of human relationships is pretty rudementary if you can't differentiate between the two. The message about the apparent lack of success of two male strippers, illustrates it quite clearly. They are hot enough to get sex on demand. But they don't have the personality, respect and other redeeming qualities to have permanent relationships.
W: The point is that your argument couldn't be more false. I did have trouble in the states, but I don't have trouble here at all. You should come and see, instead of sitting there like an idiot. It doesn't matter whether sex relations and serious relations are different or not. That's not the point. I DO WELL IN EVERY CATEGORY HERE! Face it. Deal with it.
Your not going to have any trouble getting attention in strip clubs or brothels in the US either.
The truth is that you struck out with normal girls in the US and Russia and eventually went to go-go bars in the phillipines where you had some success. Then you try and tell me that you found this secret place where women trulely like men who have no future or prospects and live off of thier parent's money.
Sorry, I know a lemon when I smell one.
There is nothing wrong with my "strategy". Everyone I've shown around here says my pickup technique is natural and in a league of its own. My only problem is that it's hard for me to be completely monogamous like society wants, because beautiful women are my biggest passion in life.
Then a go-go bar is the perfect environment for you Wu. It's when you were trying to have sex with Russian girls by telling them that you are looking for a wife or when you made a committment to your fiancee and impregnated her and started fooling around is when you start looking morally dispicable.
W: That's none of your business and irrelevant to my claims here. My lifestyle is not your concern.
Normally when people want to take that position, they avoid emailing updates of their latest conquests on the internet. They tend to be more private like myself.
My claim about my success here though, is proven and indisputable. And there's nothing you can do about that. Your stupid words don't erase the fact that my sperm has gone inside many hot young girls here! HAHAHAHAHA
Success is partially defined by standards. And most people would regard casual sex with prostitutes to be a low standard that is easy to obtain.
My standards are significantly higher.
W: Being against a career isn't the same as being against money or earning an income. As Terrence explained it to you before, freedom is important and most jobs make you into a slave.
Freedom is important. I agree. But you seem to fail to realize that a having a career and good income creates freedom by giving you more options in life...more choices...more freedom.
Am I going too fast for you?
I can have a rational discussion with terrence at least. I think that our interaction has been positive overall, even if we don't agree on everything. You actually seem to be motivated to try and prove me wrong for some reason.
If I was against earning an income, would I be trying to make one online every day? Would I spend so many hours trying to earn an income? DUH!
I'll make this simple for you. You're trying to earn income without doing any work. As such, you fell victim to adware scams. I know people who tried to make money with adware, Winston. They are lucky to pull in a couple hundred dollars a year. Assuming the company doesn't try and rip them off first. You can't live on that.
Don't think that puts you in the same classification as a person who has real talent and using it to make a livable wage and salary.
My main belief is that the purpose of life is to enjoy it. And if you're not enjoying it, even if you're earning and income, then you are essentially wasting your life.
Agreed. So stop criticizing people who decided that they wanted to work in a career that they enjoy. Don't assume that someone is a slave just because he is gainfully employed.
Making money is important, but it's not the highest aim or aspiration in life. To old fashioned Chinese people like you, it might be. But not to people who really understand life, have wisdom, or are intellectuals.
Since you have a child, it's actually more important than you realize.
Actually people who avoid work aren't characterized as being wise or intellectual. Only Lazy and foolish.
I would place happiness and good health as more important than income. Money comes and goes. But happiness is priceless, and good health is as well.
Sorry. I had to laugh about that "health being more important than money" part. I still remember you regarding your two dollars to be more important than the health of your fiancee and child.
Money is a means to an end Wu. And we can determine what a man sees as important by what he spends and invests it in. I see that getting sexual pleasure would be more important than getting healthcare for your family.
Oh and the INSPIRATION that I've given many here and online, evidenced by the quotes I showed you, lasts a lifetime. Money may not last a lifetime, but inspiration does.
Yes, I already told you that your target audience would be horney college students and middle aged farts that want to half sex with girls half their age.
I'm not sure I would be satisfied with such a following, but like I said, my standards are higher than yours.
Why is is that you never say anything wise?
I think the issue has more to do with your failure to recognize wisdom. Seriously Wu. Banging prostitutes and shifting financial burdens to your inlaws aren't characteristics most people would associate with wise people.
Oh and guess what? My ebook sales have been picking up lately. Do I get a congratulations from you? Or do you downplay everything again?
Actually, I've read your ebook for free (and it was overpriced then). Here's the thing about ebooks. Once it gets into people's hands, it starts to get copied and posted in other forums for free. So that pickup in sales is temporary. The quality issues notwithstanding, ebooks are never worth the price paid for them. So I wouldn't celebrate just yet.
W: Again, you pretend to know more than you do. Who cares how much I make? It doesn't change Dianne's love for me. As long as she loves me, her family supports me. They aren't as materialistic as you are, Chemist. Oh and didn't you hear the news? Dianne's aunt is no longer liked or respected by most of her family. After she showed her true colors last month, there is a strong dislike for her now.
Yes, just like you said that everything was fine before she visited. You still want to harbor that illusion after you were proven wrong? Or is it likely that what I said to you was that they were trying to shut you up.
Your family is sick of the drama Wu. Nothing more. You think they may hate her, but they are still cashing her checks. What does that tell you?
Why weren't you able to predict that, Einstein?
I did. I told you that Dianne's and her families assurance that everything was fine with the aunt was simply to get you to shut up about it. Because everybody knows that conflict with you tends to get escalated and involve people that would rather be left alone to live their lives in peace.
But you were insistant that everything was really fine and I didn't know what I was talking about.
Then the aunt came and everything I predicted came to pass. You aren't even allowed to live with Dianne's family anymore.
And your going to try and tell me that the family hates the aunt and not you because they said so.
SUUUURRRREEE!
W: My advisors were right that the aunt couldn't do anything to me. Yes it did blow over, because the aunt realized that her threats couldn't change Dianne's heart. Why didn't you know that? Why were you supporting this aunt just because she was an obstacle to me?
Huh? It's not what she can do to YOU. I already knew that. It's what she can do to her only family! Why do you assume its all about you?
As I see it, you were forced to find another apartment in order to be allowed to see Dianne, the baby, or be allowed in the house. You weren't even at the delivery.
You were frozen out completely. Only an idiot would call this a victory.
Like I said, the aunt had no power over me, and that's what made her mad. Why did you lack the insight to see that?
Because the Aunt played you like a fiddle and you didn't even realize it. She was very skilled or you were incredibly stupid. Maybe a little of both.
I actually know what happened Wu. I'm just being nice by pointing it out to you so you can salvage something from it.
Why should I listen to you when you are not even on my side, lack wisdom, never says anything that makes sense, and demonstrate poor people skills?
Actually, I am on your side. I'm one of the few people who might actually be able to save you, but like an alcholic, you have to hit rock bottom first. Everybody else wants to cheer you on until everything ends in a spectacular disaster that they know is coming, even your enemies are cheering you (for their own amusment).
W: Who told you that? Then you heard wrong. Or again, you are believing what you want to believe, as usual, rather than reality. FYI, Dianne has been staying with me all the time.
Yes, she is staying with you now that you bought an apartment. That was the condition wasn't it? I don't know why your arguing about things that we agree on. It makes you look foolish.
Most of the time, our baby stays at her parents house since there are more people there to care for him, and they love caring for him. And it allows me and Dianne to go out too, which we otherwise couldn't.
You and Dianne are the parents Wu. Start acting like them.
Let me tell you something amazing about Dianne. Even though our baby doesn't stay at our new place most of the time, she STILLS sleeps with me rather than our baby! Most moms prefer to sleep with their baby, but Dianne is so addicted and attached to me, that she would prefer being with me rather than her own baby!!!!!!!!!!!!! What does that tell you?
Actually, it's not amazing Wu. It's a little disturbing that she is shirking a maternal responsibilities. She must be picking up bad habits from you. And the fact that her family is supporting the child makes your stunt to beg for shower gifts on the internet, even more reprehensible.
We had the baby here for two days though, and man was it hard to sleep. I finally slept the whole afternoon yesterday.
Yeah, a hungry baby with a loaded diaper will do that to you. If you thought a job curtailed your freedom, you haven't seen anything yet.
W: A wise man would be open to different possibilities, even if he doesn't think they would be possible. One of my friends, who tells it like it is, says he knows a guy back in Atlanta who looks like JFK Junior, and is rich, yet he still can't get dates! I know this guy. He tells it like it is and never lies or exaggerates.
Yes my brother and a few cousins are a lookers as well. He actually has so much attention from women, that he has no intention of settling down with anybody. He says the realtionships are too much work.
Hot guys don't have problems with women Wu. It's a fact of life.
W: I didn't use her to prove how desirable I was. It was to prove how LIKABLE and CHARMING I was. You kept arguing that I wasn't charming. The example of Sarah proved you wrong yet again. And it was to prove to you that she was NOT just being polite to me cause she was taught to. The bottom line is, YOU WERE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!! Be a man and fess up to it, you COWARD!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Winston. I was asking for reports from your trip journals. Not opinions of children. Bringing a child into this discussion was a new low for you.
Where is your retraction where you said that she was just being polite to me because she was taught to? When are you going to admit that you were wrong and stupid to pretend to know her better than Dianne?
Why are you posing a nine year old child as an expert on human relationships?? Jeeze Wu. Give it up! Do you know how ridiculous it is to have a nine year old as your star witness???
There is no sense complaining. Half of the people you talk to won't care. The other half will think you deserved it!