More men than women in the USA?

[Tonitrus]

I have read a few times on this site that there are more men than women in the USA. However, every statistic I have come across regarding sex ratio in the USA states that there is one man for every one woman. Could someone please provide me with some evidence that proves that there are more men than women in the US?

[ladislav]

There have been posts here with such statistics, pie charts and percentages- maybe someone can help this gent here? Where were they?

What seems to be the case that almost in every state the percentage of younger (18-34)men is higher than the percentage of younger women. That is the deal basically. Overall, because women live longer, there are more women than men in the older age brackets. So it evens out in the end.

But it seems that among the younger crowd, it is something like 11-12 men for every 10 women or so. Not a big percentage when you look at small numbers like that but when you start talking about tens of millions, these get large. Add to this the 20/80 rule- 20 percent of 'winner' men get 80 percent of women and you have got a mess on your hands.

Of course, the men who are lonely now won't have a problem dating 55 year old women with grandkids when the time comes but who wants those?

[E_Irizarry]

There have been posts here with such statistics, pie charts and percentages- maybe someone can help this gent here? Where were they?

What seems to be the case that almost in every state the percentage of younger (18-34)men is higher than the percentage of younger women. That is the deal basically. Overall, because women live longer, there are more women than men in the older age brackets. So it evens out in the end.

But it seems that among the younger crowd, it is something like 11-12 men for every 10 women or so. Not a big percentage when you look at small numbers like that but when you start talking about tens of millions, these get large. Add to this the 20/80 rule- 20 percent of 'winner' men get 80 percent of women and you have got a mess on your hands.

Of course, the men who are lonely now won't have a problem dating 55 year old women with grandkids when the time comes but who wants those?

You are right. Right now, here in NYC, I am deliberately pursuing GILFs, forget about the MILFs. I am trying to date one whom is 57, NuyoRican, South Bronx and she is really digging me and lives with her 90 year old great-great-abuelita, that have separate bedrooms, whom is gone to the world once she falls asleep.

[DarrenFW]

I have no numbers to back this up but just imagine a man and a woman togetheer and they have a baby, then they split up.
The man is single and is out "on the market" so to speak and in many cases the woman has to stay home and take care of the babies or kids.
This takes alot of women out of "the game" because they are at home raising families.

Some mothers, such as the unfortunate case of Casey Anthony, are party girls despite having children.

And let's face it, women have a shelf life. A 35-40 year old man is not going to be looking at a 35-40 year old woman who has already had kids, is divorced and has "baggage".
Most older guys still gravitate to the younger women.

So the pool is less and the competition is more pronounced. The population statistics might not show dating and mating odds.

my 2 cents.

[ExpandMindset]

Also keep in mind a HUGE factor here in the US, women's OBESITY. Even though the stats may say, 10 single girls in age range of 18-34, how many honestly would be thin enough to be attractive??? 3 ? 4 ? I'd say 5 tops. So in reality to you or I, there is only 5 single because we'd only consider girls to date, fu*k, not be-friend.

Women are obesity are basically oblivious to me. Unfortunately, they affect the supply of all women and thus the attitude of the attractive ones.

[djfourmoney]

Ladislav is right, it basically even. But when you factor in as he said the 20-80 rule, the fact that college educated women delay marriage and children until their late 20's, early 30's. Means you have women complaining "Where are all the gone men" and many Men getting passed over because they don't meet some laundry list of demands. Women do live longer but that really is only a factor with the Geritol set, men more often do harder work, get exposed to all sort of things that are proven to cause cancer and other problems. Single older men don't fair too well either.

But what really happens is this.

Say your average looking, but were never taught how to woo women. You're going to struggle. If you add to this difficulty dating or getting laid in Jr. High or High School, where confidence in attracting women in built, then you're really going to have problems.

Let's say you know how to talk to women and not just about yourself, but otherwise a decent guy. Then you get Means tested by most women. Where do you work, where do you live, what do you drive, what do you drive. These are questions to gauge your economic status. Fail this and its likely you won't get a first date, forget about a second date. Now that's with college educated women. There are "ways" around that. Some college educated women aren't looking for other White Collar types, but that often means you have work with your hands (Construction, City Crew, etc) or something dangerous (Fire, Police, Military Officer) to get around the requirement of a having a college degree.

So if your in a large city like LA, Chicago, NYC, Houston, Miami, chances are you've gone to most of the local night spots that play music you enjoy. The ratio of women to men is usually about 50-50, that's why most clubs do not let in many single men or many groups of men. For a combination of reasons and this actually happens around the world, the women dance among themselves and a few brave guys look for women to dance or have a drink with. The vast majority are wall-flowers, hoping "fate" will hit them upside the head.

As you know this seldom works...

So you start using Online Personals with some mild success but what are you usually offered. Bottom barrel women. Skanky women in their late teens and 20's, no degree working as a bar maid or something. If you're lucky she doesn't have some sort of criminal record usually non-violent offenses (drugs, stolen property, DUI's). Single Mothers can be JUST as bad, but usually that's not the case. They just make one stupid decision after another. Which is why a majority of them never or MAYBE finish High School, but don't have training or college degrees. Its often two or three years later or longer that some women understand they aren't special enough (ie: good looking enough) to attract Prince Charming to come whisk her away from her doom as a low paid service sector employee.

I won't even talk about BBW's, they shouldn't even put up any sort of resistance IMHO and be lucky they have a decent looking thin man that's willing to stick his dick you or be seen with you in a public place. I am not talking about dirt bags taking advantage of low self-esteem, overweight women. I'm talking about men that some women may find to be handsome, no criminal record, no baby momma drama, good credit and a solid career. BBW's generally shouldn't be giving you a hard time and generally they don't. That being said, you have a certain set that has maybe done some modeling or even Porn thinks they are something special.

And I said I wasn't going to talk about BBW's... Oh well

But that's the bleak picture if average to decent looking man, working, no criminal, not poor but not rich either. With the 20-80 rule, that leaves lots of men out in the cold, trying all sorts of tricks to improve their odds like PUA manuals. Going overseas is seen as desperate and expensive but really out of pocket is never seen as a concern, its the fact you actually went to another country and found a woman. Attractive, Confident Women don't care. The other women??? They scream bloody murder and draw additional ire because its a bald face rejection of US Social Values, in their eyes.

They know if this sort of thing ever caught fire and became popular, the jig would be up and the negativity would be turned up to 11, they would try to increase K-1 requirements, extend and expand IMBRA law and god only knows what else.

If you want to believe there is an AW out there for you, you can continue to believe that and frankly if your in your 20's and can't quite afford to travel yet you have little choice. But once you get any wherewithal to travel DO IT.

[E_Irizarry]

Nowadays, BBWs are curt in every verbose way. They used to act like FW 15- 20 years when I first engaged myself into the BBW dating game.

[djfourmoney]

I have no numbers to back this up but just imagine a man and a woman togetheer and they have a baby, then they split up.
The man is single and is out "on the market" so to speak and in many cases the woman has to stay home and take care of the babies or kids.
This takes alot of women out of "the game" because they are at home raising families.

Some mothers, such as the unfortunate case of Casey Anthony, are party girls despite having children.

And let's face it, women have a shelf life. A 35-40 year old man is not going to be looking at a 35-40 year old woman who has already had kids, is divorced and has "baggage".
Most older guys still gravitate to the younger women.

So the pool is less and the competition is more pronounced. The population statistics might not show dating and mating odds.

my 2 cents.

Actually, I don't think it works like that. There are SINGLE MOTHERS out almost ever night of the week. Many of them with divorces not final or in trial separations. If they have a support network ie: their mother is still alive and healthy, she become "sitter" and the daughter who's looking for a replacement for the one she lost or doesn't get along with. Dude I know women with two, three children and Mom is still out there hoofing it on the dance-floor and wearing skimpy clothing. Some are parked at the local watering hole (Bar). Don't be under the assumption that Single Mothers are staying home with the children.

You are correct that Women have a shelf life, but don't tell them that or you'll be pounded into submission. In America, 40 is the new 30. Women don't want to be told they aren't worth much after menopause. But frankly, lol, that's what happens. I don't make the rules, I just try and play by them. Women are at their highest value when they are young, fresh, untainted and childless. This should seem obvious but Feminism has again turned logic on its head and said fooey that can't be the truth.

Since 1990 first time births to women over age 35 have tripled the rate it was in 1980 and 1970 and continues to climb. As said college educated women often delay marriage and child birth for fear of being mommy tracked and passed over for promotion over questions about loyalty and productivity. So as Allison Armstrong has said, "What do we value?" Productivity. Since men don't have babies and don't get pregnant, this fact of being a woman is used against women in the workplace. Unlike all the other industrialized nations and even some poor countries, the United States does not pay for Maternity Leave either. This further delays decisions about having children and many women feel, well if I'm not having children yet, why should I be looking for Mister Right? Of course they say this at like 25. The problem is they become 30, look around and go "Gosh, I think I should start looking..." That's when reality sets in. Who's left on the market? Well to be frank and I agree that even men as old as 40 (like myself) umm don't want to date women in their 30's if we can help it. There's only one moron I know that wants to do that and he's more than welcome to doing it too. The main reason is because most women again as you have stated have children from previous relationships by age 30-35. Many are unsure or uninterested in having additional children too.

Frankly that makes dating these women almost impossible. But then you think, where all the Single, Pretty college educated women? Well, the 20-80 rule has kicked in and unless you're among that 20% they are chasing, they don't see you.... This is confirmed in Lori's book "Marry Him". Women won't do what it takes either. They think just dressing up nice and wearing some makeup is enough.

Making dating increasingly difficult if you're not attractive, rich, college educated, well traveled, cultured, mature and funny. I like how some women put shit in their profiles like "I like muscles" or they like Athletic men (that's code for Muscular). Not to say I'm flabby mess, but I am out of shape, but I'm not fat. I will get back into shape soon, because I want too, not to attract women, that's stupid. The idea is not to give women what they want (as in list of desires) but to find a woman that accepts who you are, as you are. If things improve (promotions, degrees, etc) than great, but if they don't, that's okay too.

I find this sort of offensive as Black Man as well. Most of these women want a object, not a man. Some tawdry gangster 50 Cent/Lloyd Banks type. But he must speak like he's gone to school, unlikely. He also must make good money, again unlikely unless you count profits from the drug trade. Sorry ladies but good looking Black Men who are business owners and moguls like Puffy or Russell are not STRUGGLING for p***y.

[djfourmoney]

Nowadays, BBWs are curt in every verbose way. They used to act like FW 15- 20 years when I first engaged myself into the BBW dating game.

They are curt, its ridiculous.

If any dude who's not a dick, works, had intelligence and is willing (not really) to overlook your pear shaped body, then consider yourself lucky. But they don't. They also can't seem to work out that White Men just don't like Fat p***y as a general rule. They rather f**k a skanky girl with Herpes, seriously.

[E_Irizarry]

Nowadays, BBWs are curt in every verbose way. They used to act like FW 15- 20 years when I first engaged myself into the BBW dating game.

They are curt, its ridiculous.

If any dude who's not a dick, works, had intelligence and is willing (not really) to overlook your pear shaped body, then consider yourself lucky. But they don't. They also can't seem to work out that White Men just don't like Fat p***y as a general rule. They rather f**k a skanky girl with Herpes, seriously.

You got it, buddy.

[TIC]

Obesity is the biggest factor here. Men outnumber women, yes, but when you also factor in the fact that close to half of women are so out of shape that they are no longer attractive, the pool of women to choose from get's even smaller than it already was. Now what you have is some average girl who is a 6 or a 7 yet stayed thin becoming a mini-celebrity. And let's not forget the reverse effect-more and more guys are going to the gym, pumping up their muscles, and staying in shape just to get in line for the average thin 7. There are more good-looking, healthy, in-shape men than there are women by far.

And it's disgusting because it's easier to lose weight or stay thin than it is to put on muscle. In order to stay thin, all one must do is not eat much. I've done it, it's beyond easy. Eventually your stomach will shrink as a result and it will be nothing. That's all a woman has to do in order to be at peak attractiveness, yet AWs can't even handle that much. Conversely, skinny men and fat men are both seen as undesirable to women. There is one narrow, uniform way for a man to be seen as physically attractive in a women's eyes and that includes a muscular physique, which takes years to build along with expensive protein bars, shakes, etc. (Not to mention gym memberships and eating 4000 calories a day). If you're a hard gainer, you're remaining options include giving up or taking steroids and risking going bald

[Outcaster]

Obesity is the biggest factor here. Men outnumber women, yes, but when you also factor in the fact that close to half of women are so out of shape that they are no longer attractive, the pool of women to choose from get's even smaller than it already was. Now what you have is some average girl who is a 6 or a 7 yet stayed thin becoming a mini-celebrity. And let's not forget the reverse effect-more and more guys are going to the gym, pumping up their muscles, and staying in shape just to get in line for the average thin 7. There are more good-looking, healthy, in-shape men than there are women by far.

And it's disgusting because it's easier to lose weight or stay thin than it is to put on muscle. In order to stay thin, all one must do is not eat much. I've done it, it's beyond easy. Eventually your stomach will shrink as a result and it will be nothing. That's all a woman has to do in order to be at peak attractiveness, yet AWs can't even handle that much. Conversely, skinny men and fat men are both seen as undesirable to women. There is one narrow, uniform way for a man to be seen as physically attractive in a women's eyes and that includes a muscular physique, which takes years to build along with expensive protein bars, shakes, etc. (Not to mention gym memberships and eating 4000 calories a day). If you're a hard gainer, you're remaining options include giving up or taking steroids and risking going bald

I agree 100%. In fact I am a hardgainer, and it is very difficult to put on size and having to eat those massive calorie numbers everyday. Even if I met them I would not put on much muscle with my small bone structure. I am 5'10 but I do not have a big frame.
I am really foced with no other option than to use steroids to compete with other guys.

[djfourmoney]

Actually PX90 actually does work and in a short amount of time. You don't need to put on muscle just tighten and define. But you should do it for yourself not to pick up p***y. That's just giving teenage minded women what they want. If you didn't stay on top of that, what happens when your wife start to complain you're gaining weight? This is totally unheard of basically and many men don't seem to complain when their wives hips widen and they add a few pounds.

You also need to control your diet to get the most out of it. Its much easier when you live alone. I'm going to do it and it will a challenge because I live at home and don't control totally what's being eaten for dinner. I can handle lunch and breakfast but I'm not going totally protein shakes and shit, its just not me. I'm just looking for definition mostly, I would still be very muscled anyway.