You should have put a third option: neither/none of the above.Rock wrote:Why do people always default to PI when discussing where to find the most loving and loyal women. And the assumption always seems to that they are the easiest girls to attract and win-over. PI seems to continually get over-rated here. People assume that girls there fall into your lap (and they don't in my experience so far). The whole place is a minefield - continuous monetary expectations from extended family, dirty environment, cultural desert, girls who are intellectually incompatible with educated westerners, bad food, terrible air, and high crime rates.MrPeabody wrote:I would give Philippines the edge, although I am not too interested in either choice, and still prefer Latin America. My criteria would be something you didn’t mention - the ability of a woman to love and care for someone. I remember once meeting a man who was in the hospital about to have a heart operation, and the day before surgery his American girlfriend said she was breaking up. He said the agony of being in that situation was indescribable. So, what is the capacity of a woman to actually love a man? When you are sick will she come to visit? Can you trust her with your finances? Will she stick by you or use your sickness to take advantage. We all are going to get sick. But boys always seem to think of only tits and asses. When I talked to the ladies in the Ukraine, they were highly educated and when asked about their goals had great things planned but never talked about love, family, or caring for a husband. From what I have heard about the Philippines (never been there) it seems possible to meet a loving woman. Although, it sounds like if you aren’t generous you may be judged as a cheap Charlie.
On the other hand, NE Asia usually gets by-passed as a point of consideration even though women there tend to be much hotter (by most standards) AND many of them still have modest expectations despite what media and even local men claim. If a Taiwanese woman loves you (and its pretty easy to tell), she will be there for you, always. Your health will be her obsession. Even nitpicking and nagging mainland Chinese women tend to stick by their men once the love connection has been established.
We need to find more original types of destinations to discuss on this forum. Some of CIS/western Asia countries with significant Asian populations should be researched, visited, and talked about more because they tend to have a lot of attractive women (Asian and western). Perhaps some of them are hidden gems. And they may be very cheap too. Also, certain parts of LatAm should be considered such as smaller cities in Peru (though girls are less attractive there) or perhaps even rural Argentina. And there's a big hole on this forum regarding China. Perhaps 2nd to 4th tier cities still have a lot of potential for some of the guys here.
Yes, Ukraine vs. PI is an interesting contrast to start with. But its also very limiting if we don't expand it to other destinations. PI has been highly over-rated. Most of the negatives which have been brought up are accurate. But the girls are not nearly as easy or gaga over westerners as many posts seem to suggest, IMO. And I'm sure for many, dating a virgin who intends to stay that way until after marriage would be very frustrating. I mean, isn't sexual compatibility an important aspect which informs your decision on whether or not to propose?
Thank you, Rock and others that have said this same thing about the Philippines. Philippines, Thailand, Russia and Ukraine are the final four countries men seem to always choose. Philippines is highly overrated. I realized the Philippines wasn't for me when I started analyzing it myself. Of course, the negative posts on here didn't help lmao. In my opinion, I have talked to Filipinas online and on the phone. I have a girl that is one of my best friends and we just don't click at all on the phone or on webcam. Usually from the first conversation, like in the first 10 minutes, if we don't click, we won't. Danish women, on the other hand, I talked to many on the phone and we click instantly. If we don't click online, in person, on webcam or over the phone, I won't go any further. It will not work. I think men on here need to explore more countries. I am interested in 15 countries besides Denmark.
I was gaga over the Philippines when I first discovered this forum in 2007, but over the years, I have about 5 other countries that I want to explore and they are not in Southeastern Asia, and not in Eastern Europe (except one). I am only interested in one Eastern European country and it is not a popular destination. I love white/European women the most and I like Latin women. The countries I want to go to are in parts of South America and in Every other part of not named Eastern Europe (the forbidden grounds I shouldn't be going to since I am black), but I have had the most successful with European women in the forbidden grounds. Well, in general, I have always been successful with white American women, so European women liking me is nothing to me.
I think many of you guys need to research other places besides the final four (Russia, Ukraine, Thailand, Philippines). There are more cheap places to live besides these places. Trust me. Why am I going to Denmark if it is so expensive? I can afford it. I will expand on this later if you want me to.
Denmark is the perfect spot for me. I have many connections there over the years. If I need help or what not, I have people on my side. Anyway, I am glad some men on here are pointing this out. I wanted to post a thread about this, but I''ll just post in here instead.
Ukraine was never on my list of places to go and never will be. I met two Ukrainian women on MySpace online and they were great women, but I am far more interested in Denmark. Again, I have researched many countries over the years and my personal values such as atheism, healthcare, education, etc. were my first priorities. The women were secondary.
I hope this isn't too harsh. Just think about other places to go besides these two places. I never understood the fascination when there are other countries in the world that may suit you much better.