A Growing Trend of Leaving America - US News

[zboy1]

Here is an old 2008 US News and World Report: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/200 ... ng-america article talking about the nearly 3 million expatriates that the leave the country every year. I'm guessing since this was in 2008, that number has only gone up considerably since then. I also suggest looking at the comments section as well: many of the comments mirror what many of us are saying on this forum. Some examples left by Americans are as follows:


>It seems to be getting dramatically worse in america. i remember a much better time, some 30 years ago. i am shocked that america has turned into this. we have finally woken up and smelled the coffee of truth. i don't understand the endgame of this, but it has to be civil war.


>My wife and I are planning on leaving the US permanently within the next year. It is for political reasons. The America that I grew up loving no longer exists, and I am fearful of what it is becoming. We are governed by the super wealthy and controlled by outlandish fear-mongering media and manipulation of both left and right wing fringe fanatics. I literally don't feel that it's safe to stay here any longer.


>I spent 20 years in the military and in last 8 years I have never seen so many private contractors doing jobs that used to be done my military personnel. Politicians bought by corporations made all this possible. I retired in 2009, and stayed in Germany love it always have don't miss the US a bit.


>Came back to the US in 1996 and went to get a BA degree in 2005. Bad decision, there are no jobs for college grads and for lower jobs I am over qualified. Besides that here in Florida you have to speak Spanish to get a job. I am coming from a proud military family but this country has become a nightmare. So why sitting around here looking for jobs that don't exist and watching how the government spins unemployment numbers. The USA is a place with no future.


>I would like to settle in Bali before 2020. Set up a small boutique hotel business there and live/work/retire (all in one) on that beautiful island. The condition/situation of USA is not getting better. Hope that would change. The worst thing is that I can't bank on my social security and pretty much I will be on my own when I retire. Why not to retire somewhere else.


>Since I married a wonderful Dominican woman in mid-2010, I have spent time with her and her family in the Dominican Republic I can honestly say I can not wait to leave the USA for a new home in the D.R.


>People are weird here - too many freaks in this country. Meanwhile, I'm a victim of involuntary experimentation. I want to go somewhere that has better laws against that and actually enforces them. At this point, I can see no reason to want to stay. This country is a big hypocrisy for allowing things like that. All I can think about is leaving, it's disgusting and there is no redemption for it.


So, any critics of HappierAbroad thinking we're crazy come take a look at some of the nearly 183 comments made by other like-minded people on the article and tell us we're wrong.

[Grunt]

I cant argue with the notion, as I subscribe to Escape From America Magazine and have for 4 odd years now. I also tried getting into Canada back in 2006, but ran into some weird red tape snafus, and gave up on the prospect. Canada has some truly funky immigration regulations. Basically, you have two options in Canada, visit for a weekend, or apply for citizenship...no middle ground.

It is a good thing, I think, because I have learned that since we moved to Virginia 2 years ago, I get no satisfaction out of life unless I am focused on a specific set of goals. Those goals revolving around social justice issues, specifically helping combat veterans get their promised benefits, helping homeless veterans get medical care and get back on their feet, and reaching out to suicidal veterans. Side quests involve exposing police corruption at the local level and on up to the FBI / CIA / NSA etc. These things cant be done anywhere but in America. The one time when tyranny and corruption works in my favor, I guess. My wife helped me understand that if we had moved to Canada, we would have been safer, but bored to tears.

I was involved with the New Hampshire Free State Project back in 2005 but eventually found their "all talk no action" routine lame, so we left New Hampshire for Montana. Recently, the Cop Block group kicked off in grand style, and they are making SPECTACULAR progress in Manchester New Hampshire, so we will be moving back to New Hampshire next spring. I guess at this point I am going down with the ship, or the very real possibility that New Hampshire or Vermont secedes from the union, a new day will dawn.

[boycottamericanwomen]

I cant argue with the notion, as I subscribe to Escape From America Magazine and have for 4 odd years now. I also tried getting into Canada back in 2006, but ran into some weird red tape snafus, and gave up on the prospect. Canada has some truly funky immigration regulations. Basically, you have two options in Canada, visit for a weekend, or apply for citizenship...no middle ground.

It is a good thing, I think, because I have learned that since we moved to Virginia 2 years ago, I get no satisfaction out of life unless I am focused on a specific set of goals. Those goals revolving around social justice issues, specifically helping combat veterans get their promised benefits, helping homeless veterans get medical care and get back on their feet, and reaching out to suicidal veterans. Side quests involve exposing police corruption at the local level and on up to the FBI / CIA / NSA etc. These things cant be done anywhere but in America. The one time when tyranny and corruption works in my favor, I guess. My wife helped me understand that if we had moved to Canada, we would have been safer, but bored to tears.

I was involved with the New Hampshire Free State Project back in 2005 but eventually found their "all talk no action" routine lame, so we left New Hampshire for Montana. Recently, the Cop Block group kicked off in grand style, and they are making SPECTACULAR progress in Manchester New Hampshire, so we will be moving back to New Hampshire next spring. I guess at this point I am going down with the ship, or the very real possibility that New Hampshire or Vermont secedes from the union, a new day will dawn.

It may not be possible to move to Canada, but the article mentions how most of these expats are still going into Mexico. So, Mexican laws are probably much less strict, so why not consider moving to Mexico? Problem is, is that American women can't handle living outside of America, as in other countries they are not treated like the princesses that they think themselves to be, and thus their ego can't handle reality. Mexico and other 2nd and 3rd world nations generally are not acceptable places for American women, so that is the difficulty in being married to an American woman. You are stuck in America, whether you like it or not, as the spoiled brat American women can't handle living anywhere else.

I would have told many American men to move to Thailand or Asia, but problem is is that their stupid wives would have a shit-fit. Western women get very depressed in Asia, because they are in contact with real women and are forced to look at their own horrible nature in comparison. Asia is like a wake up call or reality check for American women, and guess what- they can't handle it.

I read that over 50 percent of clients for psychologists in Hong Kong were ex-pat western WOMEN. Really pathetic bullshit. Most western men are having a blast in Asia and are having too much fun to even think about going to a f***ing head-shrink. But these miserable pieces of shit American women have nothing better to do than sit at home eating salad or going to a head-shrink. Western women in Asia find it impossible to find a date, as western men are too busy with the local asian girls, and the local asian men want nothing to do with American/western women.

[djfourmoney]

BWA there was a Bloomberg story about how White Women in SE Asia have trouble dating Western Men. They complain that Asian Women are submissive and are stroking their male egos. How ridiculous is that? This is the constant complaint of American Women when the subject of Eastern European or Asian Women come up. They believe they upset the power gains that AW have made and that if more men caught on it would start to erode Woman's Power over Men in America.

That will happen anyway, its only a matter of time. Most woman outside of America treat their women with love and respect. AW unless they are over 30 are very demanding.

[boycottamericanwomen]

BWA there was a Bloomberg story about how White Women in SE Asia have trouble dating Western Men. They complain that Asian Women are submissive and are stroking their male egos. How ridiculous is that? This is the constant complaint of American Women when the subject of Eastern European or Asian Women come up. They believe they upset the power gains that AW have made and that if more men caught on it would start to erode Woman's Power over Men in America.

That will happen anyway, its only a matter of time. Most woman outside of America treat their women with love and respect. AW unless they are over 30 are very demanding.

Yea, I probably read that article before. Can you send me a link?

America's mutant women hate asian women because asian women are actually WOMEN, and not mutants. It's funny how envious American women are of asian women, and how they see asian women as a threat to themselves. Read: Asian women are real women, and they are a threat to America's mutant women, since most men do not want to marry mutants, but would rather marry real women, like asian women.

Anyway, most white American women are single, living alone, and completely miserable. When they see white American men happily married to asian women, it drives them crazy to a big degree. It's like they just got lava thrown into their face.

[boycottamericanwomen]

http://www.orientexpat.com/forum/10466- ... pat-women/

"The dating scene in Beijing is sad," said 27-year-old Kate Minnikin, of Brisbane, Australia. "I know a lot of expat women who are single, but I don't know one foreign man who's single."


Oh, poor wittle baby. Maybe if you weren't such a f***ing bitch and a whore, men wouldn't be boycotting you. Foreign men are Gods in Asia, whereas western women are treated like the shit that they are. And by God, they hate it when they see foreign men with asian women. That drives them completely crazy.

[boycottamericanwomen]

Hartman agrees: "I think the main problem in Beijing is that most of the men here I wouldn't touch back home, so why would I here?"

Like many expatriate women in China, Hartman believes that while "a few" laowai guys in China are worthwhile men, capable of establishing solid relationships, many come here to get a badly needed ego boost.

"The majority of men come here because they have issues back home ... or they just can't get a woman back home for a number of reasons," she said. "They come here because they become a big fish in a little pond; they become very important and sought after."

For these reasons, these women see the pool of single, dateable foreign men more as a small puddle. And they don't consider dating locals a viable option.


This is all horseshit, and feminist myth. Yea, white men who go for asian women are all losers who can't handle "real women" like American women. I've heard this stupid bitter bullshit from bitter American whores a 100 times before.

Reality: American men choose asian women because they are REAL WOMEN, and are 100 times superior to you in qualities, you worthless American bitches.

These idiotic American and western women are just bitter as hell because they are a bunch of losers who can't get a date, whereas the WESTERN MEN have thousands of young asian girls around them. Western women/American women are just a bunch of f***ing losers, so you wonder why American men are rejecting you for asian women?

Also, notice the last sentence- American women refuse to date locals. This is more proof of how racist and hateful American women are, and how they hate anyone who is not white.

Mentally ill, out of touch, delusional, and emotionally unstable American women can't handle reality, so they blame everyone else for their own problems.

[eurobrat]

"Also, notice the last sentence- American women refuse to date locals. This is more proof of how racist and hateful American women are, and how they hate anyone who is not white."

No Western Women like Black guy's, I wouldn't call them racist so much as PICKY.

[boycottamericanwomen]

"Also, notice the last sentence- American women refuse to date locals. This is more proof of how racist and hateful American women are, and how they hate anyone who is not white."

No Western Women like Black guy's, I wouldn't call them racist so much as PICKY.

okay, well they are so "picky" that they are going to spend the rest of their pathetic lives living alone with their 10 cats. And I feel no pity for them, they have no one to blame but themselves.

[ladislav]

"The dating scene in Beijing is sad," said 27-year-old Kate Minnikin, of Brisbane, Australia. "I know a lot of expat women who are single, but I don't know one foreign man who's single."

There are countries for men and those for women. Anglo women need to take assignments in Africa, the Mediterranean and the Black Caribbean. No complaints from there. An Aussie gal in Turkey ain't complaining at all.

[Mr S]

I cant argue with the notion, as I subscribe to Escape From America Magazine and have for 4 odd years now. I also tried getting into Canada back in 2006, but ran into some weird red tape snafus, and gave up on the prospect. Canada has some truly funky immigration regulations. Basically, you have two options in Canada, visit for a weekend, or apply for citizenship...no middle ground.

It is a good thing, I think, because I have learned that since we moved to Virginia 2 years ago, I get no satisfaction out of life unless I am focused on a specific set of goals. Those goals revolving around social justice issues, specifically helping combat veterans get their promised benefits, helping homeless veterans get medical care and get back on their feet, and reaching out to suicidal veterans. Side quests involve exposing police corruption at the local level and on up to the FBI / CIA / NSA etc. These things cant be done anywhere but in America. The one time when tyranny and corruption works in my favor, I guess. My wife helped me understand that if we had moved to Canada, we would have been safer, but bored to tears.

I was involved with the New Hampshire Free State Project back in 2005 but eventually found their "all talk no action" routine lame, so we left New Hampshire for Montana. Recently, the Cop Block group kicked off in grand style, and they are making SPECTACULAR progress in Manchester New Hampshire, so we will be moving back to New Hampshire next spring. I guess at this point I am going down with the ship, or the very real possibility that New Hampshire or Vermont secedes from the union, a new day will dawn.

I grew up in New Hampshire and it's probably one of the better states in the union. the only downfalls are the winter weather and lack of decent nightlife/social scene. It's a great place to live if you already got a steady girlfriend or wife, and want to raise a family or what not. IT sucks living there if you are under 21 or a single guy cause as stated previously it is very hard to meet decent looking women there, most are fat or over weight. However, it is still a majority white state with only a very small minority percentage living in the state and most of them are concentrated in Manchester or Nashua. Personally, I would stay away from the Manchester area. The liberal social experimentation has turned it into a mini Lowell MAssachusetts type atmosphere, lots of crime in comparison to the rest of the state. It's better to live in one of the smaller towns or cities. I don't think New Hampshire would secede from the union, I'm not sure there are enough independent minded people living there cause many of the Massholes have moved there to the southern part and influenced the government to try turning it like Massachusetts. Although, they are failing I think. I hate people who move away from their f***ed up states then go and try voting in the same leftist democrat wackos that have ruined states like Massachusetts! I know Vermont has a clause in it's constitution that it can secede at any time and be it's own country or merge with Canada. It actually was a separate country for a short time before deciding to join the union. But Vermont is probably one of the worst wannabe socialist states and has the leftists from New York and Massachusetts living there so they have a lot of nanny state dopey laws, plus it's expensive to live there in comparison to New Hampshire. If you have to live in New England New Hampshire is by far the best state. Maine is okay too but not as good cause they still have some liberal tendencies and the government has been trying to force Somali refugees down the peoples throats there, so you have those muslim people from a desert part of Africa living in Maine! WTF?!?

Anyways, if you need any advice about New Hampshire just PM me. I can provide suggestions if you are still deciding where to live. I grew up in the southern part near the border of Massachusetts, so I'm most familiar with that area, around Nashua and Manchester and towns around there.

[djfourmoney]

"Also, notice the last sentence- American women refuse to date locals. This is more proof of how racist and hateful American women are, and how they hate anyone who is not white."

No Western Women like Black guy's, I wouldn't call them racist so much as PICKY.

Look for the thread about dating/interracial marriage in America, that explains it very well and its my observation that its completely TRUE.

They refuse to date locals based on long held stereotypes of Asian Men. Short and not very masculine. As I said before, if it wasn't for Bruce Lee, it would still be bumbling and stereotypical images of Asians you saw from early American films and TV shows. White Women don't like to date men shorter than them and over the last couple of decades it seems anyway that White Women are getting taller. Short women should date Asian men right? No see my last sentence...lol

Its not a question of race but of preferences for height, broad shoulders, etc, etc.

Western Women like Black Men because of imagines they have seen of criminals, entertainers, athletes and successful business men. Its possible to marry a Black Man with no down sides. The typical downside is less economic power usually but that's made up in other areas or put another way the part of the relationship that creates passion, children and hand-holding.

[Taco]

"Also, notice the last sentence- American women refuse to date locals. This is more proof of how racist and hateful American women are, and how they hate anyone who is not white."

Trust me, American women hate white guys too unless you happen to be a 6'4'' lawyer and then they'll be happy to meet you. That said, they'll turn on anyone that doesn't agree with them.

[djfourmoney]

I cant argue with the notion, as I subscribe to Escape From America Magazine and have for 4 odd years now. I also tried getting into Canada back in 2006, but ran into some weird red tape snafus, and gave up on the prospect. Canada has some truly funky immigration regulations. Basically, you have two options in Canada, visit for a weekend, or apply for citizenship...no middle ground.

It is a good thing, I think, because I have learned that since we moved to Virginia 2 years ago, I get no satisfaction out of life unless I am focused on a specific set of goals. Those goals revolving around social justice issues, specifically helping combat veterans get their promised benefits, helping homeless veterans get medical care and get back on their feet, and reaching out to suicidal veterans. Side quests involve exposing police corruption at the local level and on up to the FBI / CIA / NSA etc. These things cant be done anywhere but in America. The one time when tyranny and corruption works in my favor, I guess. My wife helped me understand that if we had moved to Canada, we would have been safer, but bored to tears.

I was involved with the New Hampshire Free State Project back in 2005 but eventually found their "all talk no action" routine lame, so we left New Hampshire for Montana. Recently, the Cop Block group kicked off in grand style, and they are making SPECTACULAR progress in Manchester New Hampshire, so we will be moving back to New Hampshire next spring. I guess at this point I am going down with the ship, or the very real possibility that New Hampshire or Vermont secedes from the union, a new day will dawn.

I grew up in New Hampshire and it's probably one of the better states in the union. the only downfalls are the winter weather and lack of decent nightlife/social scene. It's a great place to live if you already got a steady girlfriend or wife, and want to raise a family or what not. IT sucks living there if you are under 21 or a single guy cause as stated previously it is very hard to meet decent looking women there, most are fat or over weight. However, it is still a majority white state with only a very small minority percentage living in the state and most of them are concentrated in Manchester or Nashua. Personally, I would stay away from the Manchester area. The liberal social experimentation has turned it into a mini Lowell MAssachusetts type atmosphere, lots of crime in comparison to the rest of the state. It's better to live in one of the smaller towns or cities. I don't think New Hampshire would secede from the union, I'm not sure there are enough independent minded people living there cause many of the Massholes have moved there to the southern part and influenced the government to try turning it like Massachusetts. Although, they are failing I think. I hate people who move away from their f***ed up states then go and try voting in the same leftist democrat wackos that have ruined states like Massachusetts! I know Vermont has a clause in it's constitution that it can secede at any time and be it's own country or merge with Canada. It actually was a separate country for a short time before deciding to join the union. But Vermont is probably one of the worst wannabe socialist states and has the leftists from New York and Massachusetts living there so they have a lot of nanny state dopey laws, plus it's expensive to live there in comparison to New Hampshire. If you have to live in New England New Hampshire is by far the best state. Maine is okay too but not as good cause they still have some liberal tendencies and the government has been trying to force Somali refugees down the peoples throats there, so you have those muslim people from a desert part of Africa living in Maine! WTF?!?

Anyways, if you need any advice about New Hampshire just PM me. I can provide suggestions if you are still deciding where to live. I grew up in the southern part near the border of Massachusetts, so I'm most familiar with that area, around Nashua and Manchester and towns around there.

Okay hold up a second... You have a problem with Vermont's ambition to be a "Nanny State" recently passing Single Payer Universal Health Care? Compared to the Status Que I'll take what Vermont is doing. They also trying to shut down aging Nuclear Plants and eliminate it all together if I they could.

We have Cowboy Capitalism how is that working out? Eventually America will become more like Europe because that's what the people demand and when technology starts replacing several low paying jobs creating a massive unemployment problem around 2025, who's going to be in a better position? Not these crazy Republican lead States who pass things like banning Sharia Law...

[djfourmoney]

"Also, notice the last sentence- American women refuse to date locals. This is more proof of how racist and hateful American women are, and how they hate anyone who is not white."

Trust me, American women hate white guys too unless you happen to be a 6'4'' lawyer and then they'll be happy to meet you. That said, they'll turn on anyone that doesn't agree with them.

Not true, as I've said my boy Rob is a classically clean cut White Guy. Not a thug or corporate type even if did work for a large insurance company. He's not 6'4, he's 6'0... White Women LOVE him, however he doesn't like White Women, he likes Asians, Blacks and Latinas. I've seen some of the best looking White Women fawn all over him, he's not interested.

My boy Byrd is 6'5 and to most White Women that's seen as freakish. Save for his son's mother, most women interested in him were 5'9 and above. He was one of the rare tall guys I know that dated tall women. Tall women often bitch about how tall men want to date small petite women.

White Women told men to be more in touch with their feminine side which has resulted in Metrosexuals, Hipsters and all sorts of other misfits. You need to be firm with these tramps. That doesn't make you an asshole even if they call you want, you just won't take their bullshit.