djfourmoney wrote:Colt2571 wrote:Winston wrote:Of course it's all about the rhythm and vibe between you and her. But if all they project at you is a platonic vibe, then it doesn't matter about your game. Game does not create attraction or sexual tension if it's not there. Plus every girl has a different personality. Some just do not respond to any game at all.
Thus a lot of it is out of your control. If she likes you, then you can just go through the motions.
The thing is, hostel environments are not conducive to flirtations. It is not a meat market vibe. The socializing there is usually platonic. The social vibe in them does not feel like you can hit on girls, especially since most of them are in groups and you kind of have to behave when you're in a group.
And even if a girl there likes you, she will just make arrangements to hook up with you later, unless she is leaving the next day to her next destination. And even when a girl makes out with you, it doesn't mean she will take her panties off. Sometimes she will stop right there and go no further.
Some guys have that sexual vibe that stimulates desire in women. Some guys don't. It isn't some technique that you control.
How much do you make in a hostel? Minimum wage? How do you get a job in one? What qualifications do you need?
either you have alot of misconceptions about hostels, or you're visiting the wrong ones.
everything you say here is completely untrue about LA hostels, so i assume you've never been to them.
and yes, you CAN control sexual desire in women...it is a proven technique that you CAN master. even girls who are prudes are susceptible to it. i don't like calling people out on bullshit, but your post shows alot of naivete and assumption. it's important not to see your reality as reality in general...what is true for you is not true for everyone else. and your conclusions about picking up women are in line with your results, because reality is simply what you perceive it to be...if you think picking up women is hard, it will be hard, because that's what you believe to be true.
the bottom line is GAME is a factor in attracting women, but game is a skill you can learn, as all it is, is technique...yes, some people are natural and pick it up faster, but the mind is just a computer that is completely programmable, therefore anyone can learn to tango with the right programmer (trainer). and you can program women with commands like you do a computer...everyone is capable of doing it. what do you think television does? it programs people to do things, eat things, wear things. the mind is like a computer. you don't need to know the lingo, just like you don't need to know how a car works to drive it, but knowing how it works will help you maintain it and drive it better.
as for your questions, i made minimum wage at the hostel, but my boss would always give me money on the side, as he was a very nice and giving person. to get a job in a hostel just do what is done with any job. GO AND ASK. if they're hiring, you'll do what you do at any job, which is interview...it's not some major deal. qualifications depend on what it is you'll be doing, like any job. i had a lot of jobs handling money and customer service before i worked at the hostel, so those were the qualifications that landed me the job.
I couldn't agree more, I would often have to coach friends on what to say even if it was obvious to me. Some people just seem to grasp it naturally while others struggle and have to overcome fears of rejection. But I think we also underestimate the power of rejection. Once or twice and its easy to shrug it off and continue. But if you go years of rejection, combined with being selective, its a recipe for disaster in America Dating, I know, that's what generally happen to me.
I would take rejection quite hard, not in a pissy-moaning such a way but deep feeling of not being desired. I used to think it was because I wasn't a stereotypical Black Man (large dick, excellent athlete, smooth talker, etc). I finally shook that about a decade ago but that didn't stop me from being selective. I just have a hard time grasping the "cluster bomb" tactics of some people, I will finally try it soon however.
That was sort of off topic but back on topic -
Working in any area that puts you around several women in a social setting is advantageous unless your gay...
In some "Pink" collar jobs its easy to hook up, Doctors screw nurses all the time that's nothing new. Traveling workers also find themselves in a ideal position of being "the new guy in town".
But it has to be said, under normal circumstances you are penalized for being Average Joe, Minimum Wage worker especially in a place like LA. That is unless you like dating below average talent and this really is a problem when you get over 30.
The issue I never thought for myself was to get laid. I think for Winston and maybe a few others here, THAT WAS THE PROBLEM. For me it just meant lowering my standards far enough. I don't troll the internet like I used too, but once a upon a time, I could f**k a random girl I found on Yahoo Chatrooms and other chatrooms around the net. If you think there aren't any lonely women out there you're mistaken, the question is do you want to be seen in public with them and I would have to say NO.
we're on the same page...i had very little game before i worked at the hostel...i spent 10 years in LA...the first 7 were a disaster...LA can be BRUTAL for the dating scene, almost all the girls who hang out in hollywood are wannabe models or actresses and they don't give a f**k about you unless you drive a nice car and/or are hooked into the movie biz. but lying is easy and alot of guys do it. me? i'm too ethical for my own good.
i used to be an AFC (average, frustrated chump), but when i started working at the hostel all that melted away because FOREIGN WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT...american women have the 'what have you done for me lately' mindset...they're spoiled brats that don't know a good thing when they see it...we live in a transient culture over here, where no one cares unless there's immediate, instant gratification...women here want MONEY...sorry to say it, but it must be said.
when i got to the hostel foreign women treated me like a king, especially because i'm black, and many women overseas don't get a chance to hang with black dudes. especially girls from Norway, Sweden or Denmark...they LOVE AMERICAN BLACKS...many of them just couldn't pass up a chance to get it from a "brother" though i hate that word. and i'm not even a slick, smooth talker...i'm more cerebral, i'm kind of a geek, a movie geek, i'm nice, but i'm also direct and intelligent and i pick up things easily...listen, it's just not hard when you have practice and checking in and hanging out with dozens of girls a day for two years, ending up in the thousands, you can't help but start learning.
and this is what led me to getting a job shooting for girls gone wild...they were hiring and i put together a video slide show with music about all my experiences at the hostel, because i took alot of pictures...they were very impressed with me and i got hired. that led to the best year of my life, as if the previous two at the hostel weren't crazy enough...i was a rock star on the road shooting for girls gone wild, got paid very well, free hotels, free bar tab, VIP treatment, a million dollar tour bus as my home while on the road, with a bar in it, big screen HDTV, Xbox, stereo, it was crazy...crazy...the partying was ridiculous, but you get burned out easily...i don't see how rock stars do it. i quit after a year.