Do you prefer to approach or be approached by women?

[NorthAmericanguy]

what's the big deal in spending $180-$250/hr vs having one's entire month's saving be hi-jacked by an American women for her errands. I

Ain't that the truth. And trust me, the sex may not even be all that great to boot being that women today don't care to learn any sexual techniques and they feel that just spreading their legs is all they have to do.

[lavezzi]

OzGuy and others Down Under, you fellas have legal brothels & escorts in both Oz and NZ.

Thus, I don't understand ... why are any guys over there, trying to date Anglo women? It just doesn't make any sense to me, as full-service parlours are all over Sydney/Melbourne/Adelaide/Perth/Auckland.

I wholeheartedly agree. I have not seen a single desirable quality in the personalities of Anglo women in years and I have been around them quite a bit. I'm lucky to live in a country which has excellent escorting services which seem to be getting cheaper by the month. So I simply visit escorts every once in a while to satisfy my needs while concentrating on saving money to go abroad, chatting to foreign women online and trying to meet local Asian students online.

We have some guys from Australia posting here, and complaining a lot, but I don't think they realize how good they have it compared to the USA. Australian women are a lot better and more intelligent and more worldly and easy-going. American women are not only ugly, they're dumb as a brick and also very paranoid. Besides, as was mentioned above, you have legal outlets for prostitution.

Anglo women in general are just not worth shit. Perhaps Australian women are not worth dog shit, while American women are not even worth elephant diarrhea shit. Is it really any better having the former rather than than the latter?

[S_Parc]

Actually, at Nevada places like BunnyRanch or Sheri's, there are attractive prostitutes but their starting rates are at $600/hr. Thus, you can easily be 'duped' into shelling out let's say $2500 for a 3 hour party in those places whereas in Sydney, you could have 8-10 hours with truly beautiful women, spread out over a few weeks or a month.

Also, some American porn stars have starter rates at $1K/hour. In other words, not worth it. Go to Costa Rica instead.

Correct. If you're ready to shell out upwards of $600 or more, you can get a more-or-less decent prostitute (although it's tough finding their agencies: recall that the 'madam' from the agency that Eliot Spitzer used to patronize, for $2500 no less, was busted by law enforcement, so they're actually trying to keep a low profile in most cases).

It's expensive, it's illegal, it's dangerous, and also, I feel, it's culturally very rare, it's just not what Americans understand or tolerate, unlike in continental Europe. For all the reasons above, prostitution is not a viable choice in America.

But also, who in their right mind would pay $600-1000 for a single 15-min. session with a half-decent prostitute? That's way too much, you might as well go to Berlin or Hamburg where the options are far more numerous -- and very cheap, for better-looking and cleaner Euopean women.

First of all, if you're in the USA, do not use an agency There are vice squads constantly monitoring them and you never know when an entrapment scheme is in effect. Only go to a Nevada ranch like Sheri's, Bunnyranch, Wild Horse, etc. There are porn stars who use those places for their extracurricular money making business. But if you go the legal route in the US, realize, you will go broke, as it simply isn't economical.

If you don't live within driving distance of Canada, fly to Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, or German FKKs for this sort of stuff.

[NorthAmericanguy]

But also, who in their right mind would pay $600-1000 for a single 15-min. session with a half-decent prostitute? That's way too much, you might as well go to Berlin or Hamburg where the options are far more numerous -- and very cheap, for better-looking and cleaner Euopean women.

Sad to say, lots of men pay that price, otherwise, these women would not be able to charge what they do, nor would they be in business. These women are simply charging what the market will bare.

Hell, there are women around my area who charge 250 per hour for a dominatrix session. They tell you upfront there will be NO SEX, and reports come back that they give you a jar of Vaseline and paper towels to jerk yourself off at the end of the session.

Now THAT is crazy to me. Pay 250 to be sexually teased by a woman for 1 hour, then at the end jerk myself off?!! Ummm, No thanks! Besides, these dominatrix girls are just hard core feminist who use the dominatrix fetish as a way to get away with physically abusing men.

[Someone]

what's the big deal in spending $180-$250/hr vs having one's entire month's saving be hi-jacked by an American women for her errands. I

Ain't that the truth. And trust me, the sex may not even be all that great to boot being that women today don't care to learn any sexual techniques and they feel that just spreading their legs is all they have to do.

GOD, YES. Thank you for posting this... I've been thinking the exact same thing. We don't hear a lot about the fact that many women today don't even lift a finger to do anything for their partner or to cooperate with him during sex, they just lie there and spread their legs. The man is responsible for the orchestration of the entire experience and his own preferences are completely irrelevant to them. I've had this experience SO many times.

[OzGuy]

But also, who in their right mind would pay $600-1000 for a single 15-min. session with a half-decent prostitute? That's way too much, you might as well go to Berlin or Hamburg where the options are far more numerous -- and very cheap, for better-looking and cleaner Euopean women.

Exactly. For that price you could go to Europe and probably find a woman to DATE (not just sex) for free.

[S_Parc]

But also, who in their right mind would pay $600-1000 for a single 15-min. session with a half-decent prostitute? That's way too much, you might as well go to Berlin or Hamburg where the options are far more numerous -- and very cheap, for better-looking and cleaner Euopean women.

Sad to say, lots of men pay that price, otherwise, these women would not be able to charge what they do, nor would they be in business. These women are simply charging what the market will bare.

Hell, there are women around my area who charge 250 per hour for a dominatrix session. They tell you upfront there will be NO SEX, and reports come back that they give you a jar of Vaseline and paper towels to jerk yourself off at the end of the session.

Now THAT is crazy to me. Pay 250 to be sexually teased by a woman for 1 hour, then at the end jerk myself off?!! Ummm, No thanks!

Basically, I think you've deduced the difference between the USA and the other former British colonies (Canada, Australia, NZ). The religious laws here have generated an artificial markup on erotic activities. At $250/hr, you could have a gorgeous Quebecois woman show you a good time.

[Someone]

First of all, if you're in the USA, do not use an agency There are vice squads constantly monitoring them and you never know when an entrapment scheme is in effect. Only go to a Nevada ranch like Sheri's, Bunnyranch, Wild Horse, etc. There are porn stars who use those places for their extracurricular money making business. But if you go the legal route in the US, realize, you will go broke, as it simply isn't economical.

If you don't live within driving distance of Canada, fly to Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, or German FKKs for this sort of stuff.

Yeah. I don't live anywhere near Nevada, but I don't like most of the women who are in that area anyway, they're not attractive or Euro-looking enough for me. I don't go for the 'all-American' look, I'm more into ethnic brunettes.

The underground prostitution market in the US is mostly supplied by fresh-off-the-boats Asian massage parlor women, who don't speak English. They are very dirty, ugly, and they don't speak a lick of English. They're usually infested with STDs and their appearance is, to say the least, not attractive. Even entertaining the idea of spending money on these Asian-FOBs is, to me, revolting to the point of throwing up. Other than that, there are black streetwalkers, but those of course are a horrific experience, most normal people would stay away.

[Someone]

The religious laws here have generated an artificial markup on erotic activities. At $250/hr, you could have a gorgeous Quebecois woman show you a good time.

That's it. The difference between the USA and the rest of the Western world is, Religion. Religius Puritan laws make this a completely different country than most people from the outside would believe.

[S_Parc]

The religious laws here have generated an artificial markup on erotic activities. At $250/hr, you could have a gorgeous Quebecois woman show you a good time.

That's it. The difference between the USA and the rest of the Western world is, Religion. Religius Puritan laws make this a completely different country than most people from the outside would believe.

Yep, most people don't know how bad it is, until after the initial glow of seeing Fifth Ave, the Golden Gate Bridge, Lincoln Memorial, etc, fades away, and then, they have to deal with daily life and the real nature of American women.

Thus, all and all, I consider myself lucky that my hometown is 5 hrs from Montreal.

[odbo]

Approaching women in the USA is not the enjoyable experience it is abroad. Most are fat if not morbidly obese so for every normal one there are 5-10 guys her age nipping at her heals. On top of that older men will be hitting on her as well so American women will almost always have a boyfriend, few will go more than a month or two without one and like a used car the more owners it has had the lower the quality. The only single ladies in America are mentally deranged and have decided they want to be lesbian. Or you can always go for the disease ridden ones who f**k 2 or more guys in one week and have no concept of fidelity.

[ExpeditionSailor]

But also, who in their right mind would pay $600-1000 for a single 15-min. session with a half-decent prostitute? That's way too much, you might as well go to Berlin or Hamburg where the options are far more numerous -- and very cheap, for better-looking and cleaner Euopean women.

Sad to say, lots of men pay that price, otherwise, these women would not be able to charge what they do, nor would they be in business. These women are simply charging what the market will bare.

Hell, there are women around my area who charge 250 per hour for a dominatrix session. They tell you upfront there will be NO SEX, and reports come back that they give you a jar of Vaseline and paper towels to jerk yourself off at the end of the session.

Now THAT is crazy to me. Pay 250 to be sexually teased by a woman for 1 hour, then at the end jerk myself off?!! Ummm, No thanks!

Basically, I think you've deduced the difference between the USA and the other former British colonies (Canada, Australia, NZ). The religious laws here have generated an artificial markup on erotic activities. At $250/hr, you could have a gorgeous Quebecois woman show you a good time.

As a Canadian, I can confirm that the pros in Canada aren't too bad. I had one this weekend who came to my place and charged me $160. Mind you, she was kind of ugly, nowhere near as tall as her classified ad in the paper said she was, but she could suck a golf ball through a hose, and do the same thing with her p***y, so it was pretty pleasant as far as simply getting off was concerned. She was in and out of my place like a flash, so no GFE experience to speak of. But then again, for a hundred and a half or so, what do you want? Although a year ago I had a decent GFE experience with a chick who only charged $180, but the experience was slightly marred by the fact that she was a little high at the time.

In Canada, you would never get the kind of treatment described in the quote. Even the doms here will get you off, although I've never tried one because I'm not into that sort of thing.

[Someone]

Yeah. BTW even the strip clubs in CA are amazing, in Montreal you can touch and fondle the girls, in the USA it's not allowed.

[S_Parc]

Basically, I think you've deduced the difference between the USA and the other former British colonies (Canada, Australia, NZ). The religious laws here have generated an artificial markup on erotic activities. At $250/hr, you could have a gorgeous Quebecois woman show you a good time.

As a Canadian, I can confirm that the pros in Canada aren't too bad. I had one this weekend who came to my place and charged me $160. Mind you, she was kind of ugly, nowhere near as tall as her classified ad in the paper said she was, but she could suck a golf ball through a hose, and do the same thing with her p***y, so it was pretty pleasant as far as simply getting off was concerned. She was in and out of my place like a flash, so no GFE experience to speak of. But then again, for a hundred and a half or so, what do you want? Although a year ago I had a decent GFE experience with a chick who only charged $180, but the experience was slightly marred by the fact that she was a little high at the time.

In Canada, you would never get the kind of treatment described in the quote. Even the doms here will get you off, although I've never tried one because I'm not into that sort of thing.

As far as Cn goes, I believe that Montreal city is the best place for escorting vs let's say Toronto (unless you're specifically looking for Asians) or Vancouver/Calgary.

Usually, there's a sort of breakaway zone, where above $180/hr, GFE service can be found & at $250/hr, there are clearly some French-Canadian models to be seen. After $250, the correlation between price & quality/service gets kinda non-linear but I presume that at that point, you're sort of a connoisseur and a little ahead of this forum

But yeah, the $600+/hr rip off in Nevada isn't in Quebec. You can find porn stars in Montreal, as well , for a lot less. And yes, you better be in shape if you want to keep up with them

[S_Parc]

Usually, there's a sort of breakaway zone, where above $180/hr, GFE service can be found & at $250/hr, there are clearly some French-Canadian models to be seen. After $250, the correlation between price & quality/service gets kinda non-linear but I presume that at that point, you're sort of a connoisseur and a little ahead of this forum

If you need an example, I've had look-a-likes of younger versions of Jennifer Connelly, Julie Delpy, Terri Nunn, etc ... all GFEs.