Could Rock be an intelligence informant or fugitive? lol
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Winston Site Admin
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Could Rock be an intelligence informant or fugitive? lol
I had a wild thought today. What if Rock is an intelligence informant or operative? lol
I know that sounds crazy, but think about it. It does seem somewhat plausible. Consider the following:
- He has no name and is like a Mr. X. He will not tell anyone his real name.
- He uses a fake name to check into hotels, which I've never seen anyone do, and is abnormal. Do you know anyone who does that? Isn't that something fugitives do? lol Normal people don't do that.
- He seems to have unlimited funds to travel anywhere he wants. The source of his funds is supposedly his "passive income investments" which he lives on. Yet the specifics of this aren't clear. If it were easy to just live off of passive investments, then why doesn't everyone do it? What did Rock do that others can't do?
- Right now, he is in the USA again, and he seems to go there every 6 months for no reason. It doesn't seem logical since he is happier abroad. He must have some vested interest in going there, but of course, he will not tell anyone about it, even me. He can't be there just for the hell of it.
- He has suggested that I sell this site someday before, as though planting a seed or testing how open I am to it.
- He asked me several times on this forum if I am able to "keep a secret". Could that be part of a screening process? lol
Of course, anyone can give a convenient cover story to explain the above, but without a name or character references, how can you know what to believe or who to believe? You simply can't know anything about a Mr. X can you? lol
I'm not trying to fuel any paranoia, but logically, you just can't know, can you?
Who knows? A number of members here could be secret agents or intelligence operatives. lol
Moreover, (this may send a chill up your spine) Rock even started a thread once suggesting that I sell this site one day, but never really explained why. Isn't that an odd suggestion? Perhaps he was doing so to plant seeds for his objective in letting his "masters" take over this site and movement? lol Or perhaps to test how suggestible I was when the time comes for infiltration of this site and movement? lol Here is that thread if you want to see it: http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12564
During lunch today, while playing with my imagination, I imagined the following scenario:
Rock goes back to the US and appears before his Illuminati superiors, dressed in dark cloaks, like in the photo below.
The dialogue goes like this:
Rock: Agent Rock of the Asia Expat Monitoring Division reporting in my Lord. ::: kneeling down :::
Superior: You may rise. ::: Rock rises ::: Agent Rock. Welcome back. It's good to see you again. How are things? What is your report on the psyops and infiltration operation of Happier Abroad and Winston Wu?
Rock: The plan is moving slowly but coming along. Everything is progressing well sir. I have befriended Wu and I believe he trusts me.
Superior: Good. We can use that to our advantage. Can he become one of us?
Rock: I believe so. I have seen evidence that he is corruptible and often gives in desires, particularly for women. We can use that to our advantage. Don't worry sir. I will have Wu eating out of my hands before you know it.
Superior: Excellent. You have the right attitude. You show promise. It shant be long before you ascend the ranks of the Order and be entrusted with more secrets of the Brotherhood. What about our other operatives on Wu's forum? Have they reported in yet?
Rock: Yes, they are having moderate success with the psyops operation of HappierAbroad, but are optimistic that we will succeed.
Superior: Very well. Have you planted the seed in Wu's mind about selling his website yet?
Rock: Yes I started a thread about it, but he was opposed to the idea. But don't worry. He will come around sooner or later. He will either give us control of his movement, or become one of us.
Superior: You'd better hope so, Agent Rock. If your plan fails, we may have to resort to elimination. You know where he lives right?
Rock: Oh please don't consider that my Lord. Wu is a decent fellow I believe.
Superior: Are you showing emotion my disciple? I hope you better know where your loyalties lie. The last ritual we had should have purged you of emotion and compassion.
Rock: Oh yes it has. I just meant that there's no need for unnecessary disposing of others. We will succeed. If plan A fails, I will go to plan B, C and so forth. I have it covered. HappierAbroad will be in our hands one way or another.
Superior: You'd better hope so. The Order has faith in you. You are one of our most promising agents. Don't disappoint us.
Rock: I won't my Lord. I shall not fail you. Long live the Order, whom I live to serve! ::: salute :::
Superior: You've done well Agent Rock. Happier Abroad shall soon be in our hands. Mwahahahahaha!
LOL now I know this might sound like a paranoid conspiracy nut fantasy. But it's interesting and spooky to consider isn't it? Besides, how can you ever know anything? Everyone has to decide who or what to take on faith. No one can really know anything for sure.
Most spooky was the thread that he started suggesting that I sell this site someday. That's the kind of moment in plot thrillers that sends a chill down your spine.
What's ironic is that if this theory is right, it would mean that since I'm aware of it, I may be subject to being "taken out" now that the cat is out of the bag. lol
Anyway, I hope you've all enjoyed my paranoid fantasies or theories. lol
Either that, or he could be some kind of fugitive of course, which may explain his mysterious suspicious behaviors as well.
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Mon May 21, 2012 10:19 am
sushiman
Joined: 21 Mar 2011
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Location: Seoul
Ahhh...too much drugs me thinks.
Actually I'm surprised the FBI or whoever hasn't tried to shut this place down...given all the free speech happening here.
Mon May 21, 2012 10:35 am
Repatriate
Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 1469
Winston, you're weird.
Mon May 21, 2012 10:45 am
Winston Site Admin
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
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If the ATS forum goes down, I'd be worried. But as long as it's still up, I wouldn't be worried, because if the biggest conspiracy forum, ATS, is allowed free speech, then we have nothing to worry about.
Just to state for the record though:
If I'm ever taken out and it looks like a suicide, remember this: It wasn't a suicide! LOL
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Mon May 21, 2012 10:46 am
Winston Site Admin
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 13827
Repatriate wrote:
Winston, you're weird.
I know. But at least I'm not boring like the typical Asian male in Asia. lol
But hey, stuff like that happens. The Tea Party was infiltrated. So was Burning Man.
And lone nut assassins never take out evil sociopaths, they only take out good leaders spreading love, peace and freedom. Why do you think that is?
Come to think of it, if they used a lone nut assassin to take me out, wouldn't a lone nut feminist assassin be the perfect patsy? lol
Man all this talk is making me paranoid. lol. I'm thinking that I should close the windows curtains in my house, lest some sniper be outside who is looking at me through his scope. lol
Ok Rock, if I do join your "secret order" will you make sure I get maximum benefits and that my initiation ceremony won't be too painful? lol I hate pain. lol
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Mon May 21, 2012 10:48 am
odbo
Joined: 06 Jan 2011
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It's possible but highly unlikely since you've met him in person. There are a lot of agents online though and entire websites and forums are "honeypots" such as survivalist forums which seek to get people to divulge what weapons and equipment they're storing for when "the shit hits the fan". GodlikeProductions is apparently a government intelligence exercise. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if Rock is a spook as your life is in no danger. You've done a great job of "discrediting" the concept of an average American being successful abroad by not raising your son, looking like a fat unemployed loser and so on. Literature for expats seems to be geared towards a few polarized archetypes like the over-achiever Tim Ferriss type, the irresponsible drug-addicted party animal type, and the sex-tourist Winston Wu type. As long as the idea of moving abroad for a better life stays off the radar of the average middle-class American, the powers at be won't care.
Mon May 21, 2012 12:16 pm
Winston Site Admin
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
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How does meeting him in person make it less likely that he's an operative? Can you elaborate?
Does the NSA have a huge room with hundreds of computers and agents who go on forums to debunk and spread disinfo and ridicule any conspiracy topics?
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Mon May 21, 2012 1:11 pm
sushiman
Joined: 21 Mar 2011
Posts: 277
Location: Seoul
Winston wrote:
Just to state for the record though:
If I'm ever taken out and it looks like a suicide, remember this: It wasn't a suicide! LOL
LMAO. If you're ever in the Seoul the beer is on me dude. And no, I'm not an operative.
Mon May 21, 2012 1:42 pm
Billy
Joined: 21 Jan 2012
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Winston, I like that
Hey I always thought Reapatriate is the agent as he neutralizes guys without emotion. But maybe that was the trick. I was supposed to believe R. was the agent. But Rock created his nice personality so through our narcism we could not believe he is the one.
Winston alias Mr. Anderson take care. Mr Smith is nearer than you can think.
Well, it was nice knowing you Winston. Please remember me in your will.
Wed May 23, 2012 5:26 am
Winston Site Admin
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Rock is probably looking at this thread and rolling his eyes, thinking "I'm not even going to dignify this with a response." Either that, or he's thinking "Damn. My cover is blown." lol
It's strange that he disappeared and stopped posting right after I made this thread. Or perhaps he was overwhelmed and squashed by the mountain of evidence presented in the "10 Logical Reasons Why Rock's Taiwan Claims Can't Be True" thread and was unable to spin or marginalize the tremendous weight of evidence against his claims? lol
Recently, his tenant called me to talk about his dating experiences in Taiwan. During our conversation, when I asked about Rock, he told me that Rock specifically told him not to tell me where he is or how long he will be gone. WTF?!
Why would Rock take great pains to make sure I didn't know his whereabouts or when he would be back? Isn't that overkill? What is he protecting exactly? What secrets does he have?
His tenant, an American of East Indian descent, also told me that he felt that Rock was squeaky clean and had no secrets. He even knew Rock's real name. It's strange that Rock would tell a new guy his real name, yet not tell me, a person he's known for years. How odd.
But how would this tenant know that Rock was squeaky clean? And how could he be so sure about someone he just met? That's odd. How does he know what's in Rock's past? When I asked him this, he said something about Rock's ex-gf, who still lives with him, telling him all about him. But how can he go by that alone to conclude that Rock is squeaky clean? He doesn't know his ex-gf or her credibility, and furthermore, how does he know she's not covering up for him?
It's odd that he could be so sure about someone he doesn't know that well. How can one man know that another man has no secrets, no matter how long they've known each other? What an odd thing to say.
I couldn't really hear him well though, cause he called from Skype and the audio quality was terrible. So I wasn't able to make out everything he told me, only the above.
My friend Ann told me that she knows that Rock is still in Taiwan, based on her sixth sense and "secret" way of knowing things. lol. I wasn't sure if she was joking, or if she was hinting that she knew something about him that I didn't. But Ann told me that Rock hasn't contacted her, either by phone or email, since they met. So I don't know.
Anyway, this is odd. I wonder why Rock doesn't trust me. I have his picture on my computer and I've never posted it, per his request. So why would he not trust me? I have no history of breaking promises either. What an odd fellow this Rock character. lol
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:05 am
eurobrat
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Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:55 am
gggg
Joined: 20 Jun 2012
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Some facts (informed guesses) about Rock (aka HKASIAPHILE)
Winston, I've been reading this forum for a few months, but just logged on today. When I first
started reading the posts by "rock", I immediately knew he was the "infamous" forum member
from wsg.com, named HKASIAPHILE. Please go that forum (which in the past year has dwindled and almost has no posts anymore) and read his posts. You will
find it fascinating. Most of his posts there are attacks and insults.....(see the thailand and phils forums). You will notice in his posts there that he won't even say what country he lives in.
I consider "rock" to be somewhat of a psychopath, and I was quite surprised it took you this long to get suspicious. He certainly is the most shallow person I have ever encountered....Notice how pretty much every aspect of human behavior and interaction (in his view, reflected in his posts) comes
down to someone's style of dressing, height, and "looks".
I hope you don't think he was ever a "friend". The only reason he would "meet up" with someone
is go "hunting", to make it easier to meet girls when there is another guy with him. But that's fairly typical of the hard core sex tourists in general, on isg and wsg.
It's interesting how he tries to cover up his identity now on your forum. He hilariously changed his writing style to use the word "cuz", which he never did on wsg. And a few other things I'll mention later.
And remember when he posted here to comment about his upbringing in "illinois"? Obviously, he is not from there. He would never say where he was from. And didn't he say he had a condo in florida? Another attempt to mask himself.
Regarding your observation that he checks into hotels with false names......He posted about 8 months or more ago on isg asking how he can do just that in angeles city. He use
an "alternate" user name for that question. Then he reverted back to his
other user name on isg. (which off hand i can't remember now). You might even
now what it is, for all i know.
Anyway, I'm going to continue this in a in a second post because there are technial problems on your forum / browser interaction.
The text in the window is bouncing all over the place when I type....can't continue.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:59 pm
gggg
Joined: 20 Jun 2012
Posts: 4
It seems that after the text box fills up, it's almost impossible to type more...so I'm continuing.
some other random thoughts about "rock"/hkasiaphile:
Remember a few months ago when he reported on a trip where he stayed with a poor rural family in the phils? what the ..... is that about? He never said anything about WHY he did it. He obviously
has no interest in helping "poor" people or in any aspect of culture.....makes you wonder.
On wsg he used to stay that all the time.
But one thing he is honest about on this forum. When someone asked what are your hobbies:
he wrote something like "money and women". He's honest there. That sums it up.
Who's the other guy on this forum that wrote last week (or month) to you and said something like
"well winston, you did meet rock, didn't you? so you should be friends with him". That made
no sense at all. Can't remember who said just nonsense.
It is interesting the way rock changed one aspect of his "persona" from wsg...On your forum, he "cleaned up"
a bit and usually acted like "mr. niceguy" (except when he says he playing "devils advocate").
On isg he used to"hang" around with a group of 3 other idiots who always came to each others
defense.....really funny.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:09 pm
Winston Site Admin
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 13827
gggg,
Are you sure Rock is the same guy there on WSG? He does talk about WSG and ISG a lot. Have you ever met him?
What did Rock do that indicated that he was a psychopath?
Have you figured out where he's from or why he needs to hide his name from everyone? Either he's a fugitive, running from something, or he's been burned badly in the past by people exposing him online? Why is he so secretive?
Do you know where he gets his unlimited money from to travel all the time? Is it really from investments or does someone help him?
What do you know about his honesty?
I know the problem you're talking about on this forum. Don't use IE to browse this forum. Use another browser, then you can post without the screen jumping up when you reach the bottom. I should try to find a way to fix that.
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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