Its a numbers game guys.....


I will say this.

If you're looking for a long or permanent relationship and are of high moral character, and look at least average your chances go up, because the value of a moral guy with good intentions are higher in another country that's to say they are wroth SOMETHING where as in america i'm literally shunned by women, they'll look at me from a distance and look away right away if I even look in there direction, but I'm never "accepted" as valuable enough to speak with or at least openly be interested in.


I wont have sex until I'm married and I don't drink, both of these have made me a vary vary lonely man, and I'm 6'0 170 lbs and 12 to 9 % body fat, I'd rate my self 6 or 7 on the looks scale, but the fact of the matter is I'm not a bady boy, I'm a nice guy, with good intentions and have no interests in whores.


Women in foreign countrys place value on someone like me, that's why I personally think it's a worthy risk to try it out for my self.

If you are a slob, fat, poor and have only the intention of banging whores or attempting to bang a girl who will tolerate poor character than yes you will probably fail, because why would she want the equivalent of a man whore who she means nothing to apart from how often she lets him bang her?

magnum wrote:

Its a numbers game guys.....


I will say this.

If you're looking for a long or permanent relationship and are of high moral character, and look at least average your chances go up, because the value of a moral guy with good intentions are higher in another country that's to say they are wroth SOMETHING where as in america i'm literally shunned by women, they'll look at me from a distance and look away right away if I even look in there direction, but I'm never "accepted" as valuable enough to speak with or at least openly be interested in.

And what if you look below average? I don't think there's anyway to know really, women won't be honest and men have no clue. But I suspect I'm below average looking because I have severe acne scars on my face and I'm genetically skinny as a twig.

magnum wrote:

Women in foreign countrys place value on someone like me, that's why I personally think it's a worthy risk to try it out for my self.

My experience with foreign women so far has been that the ones whom date or approach foreigners are the ones with a history of trying to date foreigners. Maybe we're a fetish to them, or maybe no local man will date them - not sure. But it doesn't have anything to do with them sensing greater moral character. How can a woman judge moral character just from looking at a man?

magnum wrote:

If you are a slob, fat, poor and have only the intention of banging whores or attempting to bang a girl who will tolerate poor character than yes you will probably fail, because why would she want the equivalent of a man whore who she means nothing to apart from how often she lets him bang her?

I may be a slob, but my photos were anything but slobby. I hired a professional photographer and wore my best clothing. I'm am very underweight - I'll die skinny, perhaps that is my achilles heel. I'm middle class.

Magnum, I have the same problem as you, except drinking and sex. I'm heavier(205) and shorter(5'10"), but I work out everyday. I have high morale character, but women my age don't want to know me. Seems all the ladies 50+ flirts with me and talks about how I remind them of their husbands. I have an account with pof and okcupid, but never get a hit. On overseas dating sites, I get hits nonstop and I use the same wording on my profile on american sites.

I just got back from the bar just now and seen the guy who owns the building, he's 50+ with a girl half his age. This wasn't the first girl and last, but I see him flaunt his status and these american girls flock to him like whores. These same c**ts overlook me, even though I have been called hot and cute by women who are older, Demi Moore age/hotness. f**k, I'm about to go on a rant and will be pissed on how guys like us are f***ed by this feminist c**t country/society that we live in now. I have better success talking and flirting with women from foriegn countries than America. Sadly these countries I went to were brief, cause I was sent there cause of my job.

That thread about that Black Soldier in Spain, that's how I felt. Shit, I'm going to drink some more and remember how great it was to be a f***ing man and not be Ostracized for being one.

looks matter to everyone, but the difference is..... FOREIGN WOMEN HAVE VALUES AMERICAN WOMEN LACK....

AMERICAN WOMEN ARE MONEY OBSESSED, PSYCHOS, SELFISH, LACK MOTHERLY SKILLS, TENDENCY TO BE FAT COWS, THINK OF MARRIAGE AS A WAY TO GET RICHER.

foreign women on the other hand also value looks, but understand marriage is a commitment, dont mind serving their man, know how to cook most often, are motherly and so on.


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drealm wrote:

I was more so trying to determine if foreign women have a core value difference. They don't.

They do have a core value difference. Everyone, both men and women, react positively to physical attractiveness. That's universal for both sexes. The difference is that foreign women prefer decent men while American women prefer indecent men. Try this experiment. Post profiles of 2 guys that physically look equally attractive, one decent and the other indecent. The indecent one should have tattoos and should sound like a jerk. The decent one should be clean cut and sound like a reliable nice guy. Post both profiles to an American dating site and a foreign dating site. I bet you will see different results.


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fschmidt wrote:

drealm wrote:

I was more so trying to determine if foreign women have a core value difference. They don't.

They do have a core value difference. Everyone, both men and women, react positively to physical attractiveness. That's universal for both sexes. The difference is that foreign women prefer decent men while American women prefer indecent men. Try this experiment. Post profiles of 2 guys that physically look equally attractive, one decent and the other indecent. The indecent one should have tattoos and should sound like a jerk. The decent one should be clean cut and sound like a reliable nice guy. Post both profiles to an American dating site and a foreign dating site. I bet you will see different results.

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fschmidt wrote:

Try this experiment. Post profiles of 2 guys that physically look equally attractive, one decent and the other indecent. The indecent one should have tattoos and should sound like a jerk. The decent one should be clean cut and sound like a reliable nice guy. Post both profiles to an American dating site and a foreign dating site. I bet you will see different results.

That's the wrong experiment, or at least it's one I'm not concerned with. The right experiment is posting two profiles of unequal attractiveness and having the more attractive profile look indecent.

So the experiment will be:

(Attractive / Indecent) Vs. (Less Attractive / Decent)

I'm pretty sure the (Attractive / Indecent) will win. If this is the case then online dating is worthless and perhaps third world dating is worthless also.

You can be good looking but act unattractive or average looking and act attractive.

For online dating or even club and bars looks matters. But if your a good looking guy with no values..you attract girls who probably have no values too.

Having values is what keeps the relationship going. If your goal is just to sleep around..and just seduce girls and get them in bed and throw them out. I agree the better looking guys have an easier time in this department but I think only gets the easy girls./

drealm wrote:

That's the wrong experiment, or at least it's one I'm not concerned with. The right experiment is posting two profiles of unequal attractiveness and having the more attractive profile look indecent.

So the experiment will be:

(Attractive / Indecent) Vs. (Less Attractive / Decent)

I'm pretty sure the (Attractive / Indecent) will win. If this is the case then online dating is worthless and perhaps third world dating is worthless also.

My experiment is designed to show that there is a value difference between femisphere and non-femisphere women. Your experiment is about the looks versus personality debate. On an internet dating site, I have no doubt that looks are more important than personality since a picture makes more of an impression than text. But in real life, I am not so sure. The bottom line is that both looks and personality count and it is quite hard to design an experiment to show the weight of each factor.


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fschmidt wrote:

drealm wrote:

That's the wrong experiment, or at least it's one I'm not concerned with. The right experiment is posting two profiles of unequal attractiveness and having the more attractive profile look indecent.

So the experiment will be:

(Attractive / Indecent) Vs. (Less Attractive / Decent)

I'm pretty sure the (Attractive / Indecent) will win. If this is the case then online dating is worthless and perhaps third world dating is worthless also.

My experiment is designed to show that there is a value difference between femisphere and non-femisphere women. Your experiment is about the looks versus personality debate. On an internet dating site, I have no doubt that looks are more important than personality since a picture makes more of an impression than text. But in real life, I am not so sure. The bottom line is that both looks and personality count and it is quite hard to design an experiment to show the weight of each factor.

Your experiment has these profiles of women:

a) Women whom select (Indecent).
b) Women whom select (Decent).

My experiment has these profiles of women:

c) Women whom select (Attractive / Indecent).
d) Women whom select (Less Attractive / Decent).

You're saying there's a clear difference between a) and b). But the difference between a) and b) doesn't mean anything if a large number of b) will select c) if given the chance. So if the experiment between a) and b) indicates value difference - it's only a shallow one at least on the internet.