momopi wrote:Winston wrote:
I never asked for her number. I started by asking for her Facebook because that's the polite way to start off. Momopi told me that he doesn't ask Taiwanese girls for their phone number off the bat either, he starts by asking for their MSN. That's the way it works here. No one here starts dating right away either, it's always friends first, esp with the young girls. In Asia, friends first is the norm.
At least she's responding to me on Facebook. Many Taiwanese girls don't respond to me at all.
I don't understand how you are supposed to enjoy your life when you are young, or find love, in Taiwanese society, when it is rigged for a life of work, work, work to the point that people are too busy all the time. It's stupid.
I don't ask for the cell phone # upfront because I don't live in TW. I'm usually only there for 1-2 weeks at a time. So when I fly back to the US, I chat with the girl via MSN or Skype for few months, then fly back to visit. By then the girl will have already given me her # so I can call her when I land in Taipei. If she had no interest in me, she wouldn't have continued to chat with me online for that long to begin with.
Since I'm the visitor, it's usually the girl who is expected to show me around and take me to places. She may possibly arrive with a relative as chauffeur. My ex in Taipei was an extreme case where her parents came and took us to the hot springs in Wulai, and I found myself sitting nakked with her father in the Sauna. Not only did her parents wanted to screen me, they also wanted to, um, discretely do an inspection to make sure that I don't have physical defects that may be inherited by their possible future grand children. Once I passed the parental test, they were OK with me taking their daughter on 2 week vacations to China, knowing that we'd be sleeping together. But I made it clear upfront that I was courting her for marriage, so this may or may not apply to your situation. Another girl I dated in Taichung, her mother came with her to pick me when I went to visit her in Taichung. Afterwards her parents did not object to her coming to the US to visit me & stay at my place.
As for what to do in your situation, if I were you I'd ask her what she does for fun, places to visit, etc., and ask her if she could take you. Since you have a car, that makes it much easier for you to drive around ("have car, will take you to places"). When I was in TW, I was stuck taking public transportation and Taxi's.
What if you lived in TW? Would you ask for her number immediately? You said it was inappropriate to do that right? That you had to start off slow with MSN right?
It's not that simple, esp with younger girls. They easily flake and make excuses and can always claim to be busy. Or they have a boyfriend or are just very picky. I guess I can make small talk. But how do you make it lead to anywhere?
gredman wrote:
Winston, aren't you married with children?
No why do you think that? I never ever said on this forum that I was married. Strange misconception.
Naoki wrote:
That's why I hate NE Asian culture, I hate being a Japanese guy.
I aspire to be an Eastern European guy. Because you can have an easier life rather than waste it on bunch of boring and pointless piece shits like study, work, study, work.....etc.
Also, women here are beautiful, gorgeous, sexy and approachable unlike those cold, short-legged bitches in my country.
I've heard that Chinese people hate Japanese because of WWII.
So, do Chinese girls hate Japanese guys?
Yeah I noticed it's like that in Japan too. Now you know what Taiwan is like. The vibe is similar, except Japan is even more strict and cold and uptight, I hear. NE Asian females are overly complicated, difficult and have strange vibes. They are not fun and free flowing at all. Far from it.
You aren't allowed to say this though. There is an unspoken social rule that everywhere you go, you have to say that "The people are so friendly!" It's really stupid that you can't tell the truth publicly.
I think it's mostly Chinese men, esp older men, that hold a grudge against the Japanese for WWII. Women don't care about history or patriotism or wars. They don't even like war movies. As long as Japanese men have status, class and looks, that's what matters to women. Chinese women could care less about history. Chinese see Japanese culture as higher class anyway, and status is everything to them. I don't think most people are that nationalistic anyway.
