I am serious, but you didn't get me. Of course we will judge the criminal, the rapist and child molester as a despicable human being. And so will any judge in a decent society.Truthville wrote:Wrong publicduende!
Are you serious?In three words: we cannot judge. And we shouldn't.
How is a person supposed to decide what they believe in if they don't "judge?"
How is a person supposed to decide what is "right" and what is "wrong" if you don't "judge?"
How is a person supposed to feel safe and secure in a society where moral relativism, like the US is becoming, is the norm if you don't "judge?"
So we shouldn't "judge" the murder, the rapist, the adulterer, the child molester, the cheat, the thief, the panderer, the liar, the violent, or the extortionist?
Actions are actions despite "reasons" and "excuses!"
It's all well and good to have sympathy and compassion for people, I know I do, BUT is it wrong for me to "judge" whom gets such things from me?
You seem to have lots of sympathy for women, which is fine, but NONE for men? Why should this Indian man support a child that might not be his? Simply because he is a man? Aren't you being "partial?"
Sometimes the truth of a issue is simple and plain, not convoluted through a "cultural" prism.
You talk about "traditional" societies such as your own used to be in a negative "judging" manner in my eyes.
Isn't that wrong?
I was actually talking about my usual criticism of those who grossly generalise to extreme judgments on a culture that they don't know (or as the OP claim they know but don't know in any depth) and is quite complex and under transformation.
I am not taking sides of Indian men, Indian women or all women here. I'm just saying that Indian men are not disgusting pigs and that the vast majority of them are loving husbands and fathers who respect their wives and work hard to provide for them. Then it's all too obvious that extreme poverty, ignorance and a traditional upbringing will yield men who are abusive, violent and behave like disgusting pigs.
Yet, one could find millions of men exactly like that in every country that has destitute, desperate and poor communities, including the Philippines, Brazil, Romania, the US, almost anywhere.
If you can be bothered to read my posts earlier on this thread you will realise I'm not pro females, or pro India. I'm just against any form of gratuituous generalisation. Otherwise I could "generalise" saying that the OP and many of you are usual American men who do like to travel and explore different cultures, only to view and judge them with your partial eyes of spoiled, arrogant "only superpower left" citizens. Would you like such a statement, or you would feel bad about it?
As for the court ruling above, I thought I already said its concerning that such cases are out and may serve as precedents. Surely it's wrong, in any society, that a man will provide support to a child not his own against his will. But you know, a judge is a human being, he might be a keen liberal who wanted to stir controversy, or perhaps was bribed, or else. It's a nasty case, yet it's not representative of an entire culture, especially one with more than a billion individuals and in deep transformation.