Jordan is a disaster, more dysfunctional than Mexico. Things don't work and people don't know what is going on. I didn't spend enough time there to understand why this is. I was in Egypt 17 years ago and it seemed similar, but I was with a tour which prevents one from really experiencing the place. Something went seriously wrong in the Islamic world which was once a great civilization. When I have time, I would like to research what went wrong. I would probably start with the writings of John Bagot Glubb whose book on Muhammad I read during this trip. In Amman, most areas were conservative with women covered. But in a modern mall for the upper class, one saw modern styles.
Israel is a small country that is very diverse. We visited Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Tzefat. Tel Aviv and Haifa are modern cities with ugly modern concrete architecture. The people are modern, much like in Southern Europe. When I was in Tzefat 17 years ago, it was a small religious town that I liked. It has changed since then, and become famous for Jewish mysticism, resulting a in a big new-age presence there. Madonna visited for this. Tzefat has lost its soul. The only city I liked in Israel was Jerusalem which is very different from the rest of the country. It is the only place in the Western world where modern culture is a clear minority. It is dominated by religious Jews and by Muslims. In the tourist places, modern tourists are everywhere, but outside of tourist areas, there is a clear sense of neighborhood. Most neighborhoods are fairly homogeneous and the values of the people there determine the feeling there. The usual Western skank styles are not common.
In the religious areas of Israel, particularly in Jerusalem, there are many sex-segregated buses where men sit in front and women sit in the back. This is enforced by Orthodox Jews who, rightly, believe in segregating the sexes. My family rode on one of these buses and it was very pleasant. How is this enforced? Read how a stupid American woman was beaten for failing to comply.
One general Israeli characteristic is directness. This is the opposite of America, land of the fake smile. In Israel, things are real; people's faces, food, buildings, etc. This is something I really appreciate.
Visiting Israel makes clear how much Jews vary. In my opinion, Israeli Jews have more in common with Israeli Muslims than they do with American (non-orthodox) Jews. Yet Jews seem to cling to a tribal concept that unfortunately has become racist in my opinion. While it is possible to convert to Judaism, it isn't easy. In Israel, assimilation into Judaism is discouraged, yet American Jews, who have almost nothing in common with Israeli Jews, are invited. These American Jews who move to Israel tend to live apart from Israelis since they really don't fit, being basically Americans. American Jews in Israel stick out and I find them quite repulsive.
My wife is a Catholic Mexican, but after seeing Israel, she wants to move to Jerusalem and convert to Judaism. This shows the attraction of a functional co-alpha culture to women who value providers. We went to the organization in Jerusalem that handles immigration of American Jews. It was very awkward. The place was entirely staffed by American women, who my wife and I despise. These women feel superior to the rest of the world for being Jewish and for being American. With the usual fake smile barely plastered on her face, our interviewer asked us why we wanted to move to Israel. My wife said because she doesn't like America and she likes Jerusalem. I was asked about my Jewish background and answered that I am only ethnically Jewish and have no other association with Judaism. Because I pass the racial test, my family can easily move to Israel.
Below are my answers to Tyrannus's questions from the nice-guy forum:
Yes, Orthodox Judaism is closest to ideal Patriarchy of any existing culture that I know of. Women dress conservatively and the culture is monogamous. The sexes are kept apart.Orthodox Israel is the ideal Patriarchy?
I am an atheist, so I don't think atheism is the problem. The problem is modern liberal feminist culture. This is a minority in Jerusalem, unlike in most of the modern world. And warmongers, well many Orthodox are themselves warmongers. The Orthodox have a 4000 year old perspective, during which Israel repeatedly was conquered by different forces. They view modern times are a continuation of this, and they want to the Jews to be the conquerors this time. I don't have a problem with this. My problem with Judaism is that they don't welcome others to join. I understand now that Judaism isn't fundamentally a culture, religion, or ethnic group. Fundamentally, Judaism is a tribe. But this tribe should be more willing to accept new members who want to join.Aren't they surrounded by atheists and warmongers there???
No, and this is my problem with MGTOW. Mexico is every man for himself. There is no cooperation, so nothing works and there is no security. In Orthodox Judaism, there is strong cooperation and enforced rules, like the separation of the sexes. This is real patriarchy.In what way is MX anarchist? Isnt that the best path to freedom? Anarchy?
Yes, compared to America, almost anything is good (socially). But my view is:People are unreliable? Maybe that's good so that feminism can not run deeply there.
patriarchy > anarchy > feminism
I am not satisfied with anarchy. I want patriarchy. This is why MGTOW is not good enough for me.
Israel is very different from America, even comparing Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods in America with those in Israel. The Orthodox Jews in America follow the American practice of ignoring everyone outside of their circle. If I lived in an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in America, I would be ignored. But the Israeli culture is the opposite where people deal with each other directly. In Israel, I would either be thrown out or be accepted, either of which I find preferable to being ignored.What advantage is there to living in an all Jewish transplanted slice of America with warmongering tendencies? I dont see it.
Returning to the trip, at the end of it, my wife wanted to move immediately to Jerusalem. But I am busy with work, trying to start a business, so I want to wait. We agreed that we will buy a house in El Paso and once my current business starts making money, we will buy a second house in Jerusalem and we will divide our time between these places.
