Hey there. I've been interested in the idea of going to date and possibly marry abroad for several months, but I have only recently started reading this site. And this site is incredible! It captures perfectly what is wrong with society here in the U.S. and shows what human beings need to be healthy and function and thrive. Social connection and inclusiveness and romantic relationships and sex are what I've always lacked in my life. Obviously, I'm not doing too well where I am, so going abroad is a good option for me, and one that I'm interested in doing eventually. But I have to admit that it is daunting, uncertain, and seems very challenging.
I really don't think I'll be able to make it - to thrive - here in the U.S. I have a job, some friends, a good family. Things are not horrible for me, except in the romance department: Dating in this society is virtually impossible! Finding a decent girl is hard enough, and even when you do, getting a date with her is nearly impossible. She's taken, or not looking, or just simply not interested in you. I do want to have plenty of sex, but ultimately, I want to find a nice girl to settle down with and escape the rotten society I live in. And that in itself seems impossible where I stand.
Anyway, at least in going abroad, there is hope, and although I haven't given up 100% on finding love here at home, I don't hold my breath for it. I hope to learn a lot by posting here, and hopefully I can solidify some plans for actually traveling abroad. Thanks for the very informative site Winston!
Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:45 am
Winston Site Admin
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
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Welcome Ghost. I know exactly how you feel. You're not allowed to talk about a lack of romance and sex cause it makes you look like a loser, plus it's inappropriate too. You are supposed to pretend that everything is great.
What country do you plan to go to?
Do you ever feel like a "Ghost" in America?
Have you seen my comparison chart? It will inspire you.
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:37 am
Ghost
Joined: 17 Apr 2011
Posts: 583
Thanks Winston. I do indeed feel like a ghost to women here in the U.S. Completely ignored, seen right past because I'm not good-looking or a bad-boy asshole. Even if other countries aren't dating paradises, I'm banking on the probability that it can't be worse for dating than the U.S.! I've got lots of ideas, but few concrete plans at this point. I'm working, saving up money, trying to learn some useful things right now. As far as particular countries, Latin America is a general area I want to explore. (I'm also trying to learn Spanish to help me.) Possibly Russia, or parts of Europe. The Philipines is a country that consistently sounds great for sex and relationships, so I definitely want to go there! I'm trying to work towards a future of many possibilities in being abroad.
Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:24 am
TRADER1972
Joined: 07 Mar 2011
Posts: 246
Ghost, men have unlimited possibilities overseas. Marrying an AW is suicide and nothing to be gained. You can find most of the answers to the questions you here by searching or asking a member. We all help each other as we all are in the same boat, the sinking Titanic.
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Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:11 am
momopi
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 3755
Location: Orange County, California
Ghost wrote:
Thanks Winston. I do indeed feel like a ghost to women here in the U.S. Completely ignored, seen right past because I'm not good-looking or a bad-boy asshole. Even if other countries aren't dating paradises, I'm banking on the probability that it can't be worse for dating than the U.S.! I've got lots of ideas, but few concrete plans at this point. I'm working, saving up money, trying to learn some useful things right now. As far as particular countries, Latin America is a general area I want to explore. (I'm also trying to learn Spanish to help me.) Possibly Russia, or parts of Europe. The Philipines is a country that consistently sounds great for sex and relationships, so I definitely want to go there! I'm trying to work towards a future of many possibilities in being abroad.
Why do you think that you're "not good looking" ?
Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:32 pm
Ghost
Joined: 17 Apr 2011
Posts: 583
TRADER1972 wrote:
Ghost, men have unlimited possibilities overseas. Marrying an AW is suicide and nothing to be gained. You can find most of the answers to the questions you here by searching or asking a member. We all help each other as we all are in the same boat, the sinking Titanic.
Thank you. And there's no sense in staying on a sinking ship at all. More recently, I keep having the feeling that I need to get out. It's about everything that matters: finding love, access to sex, social connection, a better life. I know if I never get out, I will flounder and suffer emotionally and mentally. A lot of times, my brain is fried on depression and it makes it hard to function. Knowing I can work towards going abroad to great things helps me stay focused for working towards my goals.
momopi wrote:
Ghost wrote:
Thanks Winston. I do indeed feel like a ghost to women here in the U.S. Completely ignored, seen right past because I'm not good-looking or a bad-boy asshole. Even if other countries aren't dating paradises, I'm banking on the probability that it can't be worse for dating than the U.S.! I've got lots of ideas, but few concrete plans at this point. I'm working, saving up money, trying to learn some useful things right now. As far as particular countries, Latin America is a general area I want to explore. (I'm also trying to learn Spanish to help me.) Possibly Russia, or parts of Europe. The Philipines is a country that consistently sounds great for sex and relationships, so I definitely want to go there! I'm trying to work towards a future of many possibilities in being abroad.
Why do you think that you're "not good looking" ?
I am ugly, I'm overweight, hairy, etc. Women either want asshole douchebags or hot guys, and I'm neither. The only good physical feature I have is height. (I'm 6'3".) Hopefully going abroad my looks won't matter as much and women can love me based on things that aren't superficial.
Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:30 am
odbo
Joined: 06 Jan 2011
Posts: 2182
Get in shape, no more excuses! Some things you can't change, some things you can. The days when women didn't care about a man's looks are long gone. So stop eating pre-packaged food! Being hairy while largely genetic also shows you don't have a testosterone deficiency. A lot of males have that now a days because estrogen dominates our diet.
Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:37 am
DaRick
Joined: 03 Aug 2010
Posts: 296
Location: Brisbane, Queensland, AUS
LinuxOnly wrote:
Get in shape, no more excuses! Some things you can't change, some things you can. The days when women didn't care about a man's looks are long gone. So stop eating pre-packaged food! Being hairy while largely genetic also shows you don't have a testosterone deficiency. A lot of males have that now a days because estrogen dominates our diet.
Actually, weight is partially genetic. So if you come from a 'solid' family, you will likely be 'solid' yourself. So you cannot entirely help being fat. Exercise does help of course, but it is never that simple.
Also, to the OP, welcome to the forum and if you get in shape, do so for your own purposes. Doing so for meeting sub-par women is pointless.
Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:04 am
Ghost
Joined: 17 Apr 2011
Posts: 583
I am trying to work on the weight thing and get a little healthier. Progress is slow and it's not easy. I admit a big motivation for changing myself is to become more attractive to women. I plan to make a thread soon about how much my looks will matter dating abroad. Ultimately though, I can't change my looks a huge amount. (Not willing to go to such crazy extremes such as plastic surgery.) It's something I worry about - if women abroad would reject me because I'm just too unattractive.
Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:44 am
The_Adventurer
Joined: 23 Aug 2007
Posts: 594
I find that weight takes care of itself just by being abroad and away from the over processed, prepackaged foods of America. Just eating the natural Asian diet, doesn't matter if in Korea, Japan, Philippines or China, I never have to worry about my weight. I only had to worry about buying new clothes as I got smaller and smaller. The important thing is I never had to try to do it. I did train with a personal trainer in Korea for a while, but I was already small by that time, and did it simply because I wanted to, and knew I didn't need it for getting girls.
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:53 am
momopi
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 3755
Location: Orange County, California
Ghost wrote:
I am ugly, I'm overweight, hairy, etc. Women either want asshole douchebags or hot guys, and I'm neither. The only good physical feature I have is height. (I'm 6'3".) Hopefully going abroad my looks won't matter as much and women can love me based on things that aren't superficial.
Going back to the original question, why do you think that you're "not good looking" or "ugly" ?
If you have a serious obesity issue, you can look into products like laparoscopic adjustable gastric band ("lap-band"). Hair, you can shave, wax, or laser. If your facial features lack symmetry, you can look into minor cosmetic surgery to improve your appearance. You already have the height, you just need some improvements & style to make yourself look better. Beauty is 30% born and 70% effort.
Ghost wrote:
I am trying to work on the weight thing and get a little healthier. Progress is slow and it's not easy. I admit a big motivation for changing myself is to become more attractive to women. I plan to make a thread soon about how much my looks will matter dating abroad. Ultimately though, I can't change my looks a huge amount. (Not willing to go to such crazy extremes such as plastic surgery.) It's something I worry about - if women abroad would reject me because I'm just too unattractive.
If you want to do this, do it for yourself and not some chick. That kind of mentality will lead you to assume the bent-over position for others to come and @#%!@#$5 you up the rear. Work on your weight issue to improve your own health first.
For the record, I paid thousands of dollars for 20 dental crowns to get that perfect white smile 15 years ago. I didn't endure the dentist chair to get girls, I did it for myself, and I think I've gotten my money's worth through successful interviews and meeting people in networking events.
Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:59 am
Winston Site Admin
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 13817
Ghost,
I've just added your comments about this site at the top of the testimonials and praises page. Check it out.
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:59 am
Ghost
Joined: 17 Apr 2011
Posts: 583
Haha, cool! If I had known my comments were going to be displayed, I would've tried to be more eloquent.
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