So I get a message on FB from an very old high school friend. She specifically tagged me in her message because she knows of my "interest" in travel and foreign women. Here's the story:

A good friend of hers (age 62) is divorcing. He's been online dating but was bored with the middle aged AWs he was meeting. So he starts online with foreign women. He starts video chatting with a hot young woman from Senegal who is in graduate school in Geneva. Next thing you know he decides to travel to Switzerland to meet her. My friend is panicked and tries to talk him out of it. He wont listen and wont tell her where he is staying. He tells her he wont be taking his laptop but will use the girl's. He arrives in Geneva and emails my friend to say he's arrived. The next day my friend gets an email from the girl saying that they are having a great time and that the girl hopes that someday she can meet my friend.

My friend thinks she should contact the US Consolate or the FBI. She posts on FB to get opinions on what she should do. My friend assumes her friend is in physical danger and the authorities should be brought in.

I try to tell her that while it's true that the girl may be a scammer and try to get money, in all likelihood that guy is getting exactly what he wants as well. What amazed me is that she received dozens of responses and they all were the same:

1. Foreign women are all scammers.
2. An older man with a younger woman is impossible, so it must be a scam.
3. The man should be forced to come home or at least contact my friend.
4. The man's life is in danger.

I dont know why I should be shocked by the responses but I was. If a friend of mine contacted the US Consolate because I was abroad banging a foreign woman I would be incensed and end the friendship.



Last edited by davewe on Thu May 10, 2012 1:31 am; edited 2 times in total

Wow...that rationalisation hamster must be over worked!! LOL!!

Of course the woman is after money. No question. They ALL are. Your woman friend is just pissed off that he is not getting scammed by an AW rather than some other young hot woman from some other country.

One time my fav#1 and I had this conversation...it was when she was trying to change my mind to kids and we were testing each other out....she was 36 and I was 46 at the time. Quite an acceptable age difference but I was testing her out.

Peter: I think you should get a younger man...someone closer to your age.

fav#1: You are fine. 10 years is close enough....

Peter: But I am too old to be chasing small children around...it is a lot of work for a father to do that. I worked very hard on weekends when I had my small children.

Fav#1: I will take care of the kids. You do not have to work hard with them. I promise. If I need a break we will have a nanny. You need your peace and quiet to work and to earn money for us all.

Peter: But you are 10 years younger and you are likely to outlive me in terms of age...so you might be alone for some time at the end of your life. You would be better off with a man closer to your own age. You would be less likely to be left alone.

Fav#1: Oh. that is perfectly ok if I am left alone for a while towards the end of my life. That is normal in the Ukraine.

Peter: Interesting, why, exactly are you ok with being left alone towards the end of your life.

Fav#1: Because when you die I will get all your money and I will be very happy and able to take care of myself with it.

That is NOT a joke. She came out and said that as long as she got any money I had made when I died it was perfectly ok for me to die well before her and that having that money for herself would make her very happy.

THAT is what women are like. She makes no bones about it.

Thanks for the laugh! Jezz what a bunch of rationalizing fools.

davewe wrote:

So I get a message on FB from an very old high school friend. She specifically tagged me in her message because she knows of my "interest" in travel and foreign women. Here's the story:

A good friend of hers (age 62) is divorcing. He's been online dating but was bored with the middle aged AWs he was meeting. So he starts online with foreign women. He starts video chatting with a hot young woman from Senegal with is in graduate school in Geneva. Next thing you know he decides to travel to Switzerland to meet her. My friend is panicked and tries to talk him out of it. He wont listen and wont tell her where he is staying. He tells her he wont be taking his laptop but will use the girls. He arrives in Geneva and emails my friend to say he's arrived. The next day my friend gets an emal from the girl saying that they are having a great time and that the girl hopes that someday she can meet my friend.

My friend thinks she should contact the US Consolate or the FBI. She posts on FB to get opinions on what she should do. My friend assumes her friend is in physical danger and the authorities should be brought in.

I try to tell her that while it's true that the girl may be a scammer and try to get money, in all likelihood that guy is getting exactly what he wants as well. What amazed me is that she received dozens of responses and they all were the same:

1. Foreign women are all scammers.
2. An older man with a younger woman is impossible, so it must be a scam.
3. The man should be forced to come home or at least contact my friend.
4. The man's life is in danger.

I dont know why I should be shocked by the responses but I was. If a friend of mine contacted the US Consolate because I was abroad banging a foreign woman I would be incensed and end the friendship.

Wow. Some women just can't handle the fact that a man has options, and he may very well be happily courting a younger woman still in her prime. Typical actually. Your friend was extremely jealous of this guy for being happier abroad. So, women in western countries want men to be miserable and under the watchful eye of "Big Sister", but the minute we leave, she wants to call the authorities because she's worried that he is enjoying himself and she can't judge and/or disapprove. OMG, call the authorities!

Your friend's biggest f**k-up was telling a western woman that he was meeting a woman. You can bet that she will gradually do everything in her power to ruin his life when he returns back to America. Count on it.


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davewe wrote:

If a friend of mine contacted the US Consolate because I was abroad banging a foreign woman I would be incensed and end the friendship.

You should end the friendship based on the fact that your friend is an idiot.

PaulB wrote:

davewe wrote:

If a friend of mine contacted the US Consolate because I was abroad banging a foreign woman I would be incensed and end the friendship.

You should end the friendship based on the fact that your friend is an idiot.

Agreed. Fortunately she is not actually a friend, just an old high school acquaintance.

davewe wrote:

So I get a message on FB from an very old high school friend. She specifically tagged me in her message because she knows of my "interest" in travel and foreign women. Here's the story:

A good friend of hers (age 62) is divorcing. He's been online dating but was bored with the middle aged AWs he was meeting. So he starts online with foreign women. He starts video chatting with a hot young woman from Senegal who is in graduate school in Geneva. Next thing you know he decides to travel to Switzerland to meet her. My friend is panicked and tries to talk him out of it. He wont listen and wont tell her where he is staying. He tells her he wont be taking his laptop but will use the girl's. He arrives in Geneva and emails my friend to say he's arrived. The next day my friend gets an email from the girl saying that they are having a great time and that the girl hopes that someday she can meet my friend.

My friend thinks she should contact the US Consolate or the FBI. She posts on FB to get opinions on what she should do. My friend assumes her friend is in physical danger and the authorities should be brought in.

I try to tell her that while it's true that the girl may be a scammer and try to get money, in all likelihood that guy is getting exactly what he wants as well. What amazed me is that she received dozens of responses and they all were the same:

1. Foreign women are all scammers.
2. An older man with a younger woman is impossible, so it must be a scam.
3. The man should be forced to come home or at least contact my friend.
4. The man's life is in danger.

I dont know why I should be shocked by the responses but I was. If a friend of mine contacted the US Consolate because I was abroad banging a foreign woman I would be incensed and end the friendship.

What your friend did was risky and sounds naive to me, especially since he has no experience abroad. It would have been even more dangerous if the woman involved was Nigerian and/or he was to meet her somewhere in Africa instead of Geneva. There are some nasty scams and set-ups involving Africans both in Africa and Europe which are pretty uncommon with people from other parts of the world. Sometimes an attractive woman is used as bait to get the guy to fly over. At some point, he may find himself in a strange place with one or more of her 'family members' being held against his will. Then they do whatever they can to deplete his bank accounts. In some cases, he is subjected to violence or even worse.

In the benign cases, its just a struggling woman hoping to find a sugar daddy or just make some easy cash. Those cases are fine and common with women from all over the world. But with west Africans, it's sometimes much worse.

If you get involved with an African you haven't met or don't know well, especially west Africans or South Africans, it behooves you to leave your contact and location details with some trusted friends who will touch base with you every day or two. Also best you register with US embassy in country you are visiting. That can speed things up in case you go missing.

Rock wrote:

What your friend did was risky and sounds naive to me, especially since he has no experience abroad. It would have been even more dangerous if the woman involved was Nigerian and/or he was to meet her somewhere in Africa instead of Geneva. There are some nasty scams and set-ups involving Africans both in Africa and Europe which are pretty uncommon with people from other parts of the world. Sometimes an attractive woman is used as bait to get the guy to fly over. At some point, he may find himself in a strange place with one or more of her 'family members' being held against his will. Then they do whatever they can to deplete his bank accounts. In some cases, he is subjected to violence or even worse.

So just to clarify, the guy involved was not my friend. My friend was the woman who was considering calling the consolate or FBI. She was asking for the advise.

Certainly the woman may be a scammer and the guy may be naive; I don't know him so who can say. I posted the story because of the universal condemnation of his actions and advise that my friend should do whatever it took to "save" him. It still seems to me it's a shaming technique to get men to toe the line, stay in country, act their age, etc. I hope the guy's OK and having a good time but still believe it's his call on how to conduct himself.

What I think upset my friend is that she tried to talk the guy out of it and couldn't and he refused to give her information about where he would be staying, accurately discerning that she would try to get involved. I have no idea whether he gave his contact information to anyone else only that he refused to give it to her.

I have no dog in this fight one way or the other. I don't know the guy and therefore can't gauge whether his judgment is sound or not. But I do know from my own experience that people in the US (not just AW) will look at you like you are nuts, self-deluded, for traveling to a third world country in the first place, let alone going there to meet women.

davewe wrote:

Rock wrote:

What your friend did was risky and sounds naive to me, especially since he has no experience abroad. It would have been even more dangerous if the woman involved was Nigerian and/or he was to meet her somewhere in Africa instead of Geneva. There are some nasty scams and set-ups involving Africans both in Africa and Europe which are pretty uncommon with people from other parts of the world. Sometimes an attractive woman is used as bait to get the guy to fly over. At some point, he may find himself in a strange place with one or more of her 'family members' being held against his will. Then they do whatever they can to deplete his bank accounts. In some cases, he is subjected to violence or even worse.

So just to clarify, the guy involved was not my friend. My friend was the woman who was considering calling the consolate or FBI. She was asking for the advise.

Certainly the woman may be a scammer and the guy may be naive; I don't know him so who can say. I posted the story because of the universal condemnation of his actions and advise that my friend should do whatever it took to "save" him. It still seems to me it's a shaming technique to get men to toe the line, stay in country, act their age, etc. I hope the guy's OK and having a good time but still believe it's his call on how to conduct himself.

What I think upset my friend is that she tried to talk the guy out of it and couldn't and he refused to give her information about where he would be staying, accurately discerning that she would try to get involved. I have no idea whether he gave his contact information to anyone else only that he refused to give it to her.

I have no dog in this fight one way or the other. I don't know the guy and therefore can't gauge whether his judgment is sound or not. But I do know from my own experience that people in the US (not just AW) will look at you like you are nuts, self-deluded, for traveling to a third world country in the first place, let alone going there to meet women.

Well, I think the tendency of people to look at men who go overseas for women as nuts reflects a very real possibility that such people may know (or suspect) that there's a serious problem with male-female relations in the West, but simply can't bring themselves to believe it. Because if they believed it and understood why men go overseas, it would force them to think, and question everything they've been taught about the world - and everything else they believe in. The vast majority of people in the West, especially North America, simply can't deal with cognitive dissonance very well. Plus, North Americans are lazy and really don't want to have to think too hard about anything. As an aside, one reason why North America has become a 'drink-your-face-off' party culture is precisely because of that inability and unwilllingness to think in a serious way about anything.

And, while I'm stating the obvious here, I think it's safe to say that the woman felt threatened by the man's plan to find a woman overseas, because that sort of behaviour threatens female power to control the mating and dating system so that women enjoy an exclusive advantage.

Both sides of the story: First there are lots of scammers and the guy should be careful. He should leave contact information with someone but maybe a man.

Second: women and men in the US or West don't want to believe there is something out there that doesn't follow the local rules. They've played by the rules their whole life and got 2s and now this guys is getting 7s and it's not fair!

The more I do things outside the box, the less I tell, because they just don't understand. To them, all men should stay home and watch TV and be bored!

What is risky is that he posted this to FB, some meddling woman is trying to make his life miserable, and it IS likely that when he returns he will be questioned about having sex with that woman.

It is frowned upon for American Men to travel to other countries and have sex/date, regardless if it is P4P or not, or if the woman is of age or not.

It's simple, really - they do not want you do to be happy or to break the p***y Union of North America.

I hope he does not have photos in his phone or on his laptop when he returns. If he slips up when questioned by TSA and mentions any money or gifts being exchanged, they will accuse him of travelling for paid sex, that is against USA law, and they will arrest him.

No joke.

If you do this:

1) Tell no one
2) Lie
3) When questioned by TSA answer all the questions with the goody-2 shoes answer.
4) Lie

American Culture does not want you to be happy.

American Men have spoilt American Women, the women do not want the men anymore, and most troubling the women now want you to be unhappy and sexually deprived.

Leave.

ph_visitor wrote:

What is risky is that he posted this to FB, some meddling woman is trying to make his life miserable, and it IS likely that when he returns he will be questioned about having sex with that woman.

It is frowned upon for American Men to travel to other countries and have sex/date, regardless if it is P4P or not, or if the woman is of age or not.

It's simple, really - they do not want you do to be happy or to break the p***y Union of North America.

I hope he does not have photos in his phone or on his laptop when he returns. If he slips up when questioned by TSA and mentions any money or gifts being exchanged, they will accuse him of travelling for paid sex, that is against USA law, and they will arrest him.

No joke.

If you do this:

1) Tell no one
2) Lie
3) When questioned by TSA answer all the questions with the goody-2 shoes answer.
4) Lie

American Culture does not want you to be happy.

American Men have spoilt American Women, the women do not want the men anymore, and most troubling the women now want you to be unhappy and sexually deprived.

Leave.

To again clarify - he did not post anything on FB. His friend (my friend) did.

But I agree that depending on your circumstances you might be careful about who and what you reveal. When I travel I tell my kids the general location but not the details. Of course they have my cell phone and email and we do communicate. But I avoid info such as which hotel or even which city until after the fact.

I am not paranoid and have little to hide but I agree that caution from some well meaning friend who thinks you are doing the wrong thing is advised.

BTW, I have never had any TSA/immigration problems. Telling immigration where you have traveled (such as my recent trip to Boracay) or even that you vacationed with a gf has never caused a problem for me. The closest I got to getting flustered was once when the immigration guy saw that I was born in Philadelphia and asked "Where's the best cheese steak place in Philly." I couldn't remember the standard answer (Pat's) and finally said "I haven't lived there in 30 years so I can't remember."

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BTW, I have never had any TSA/immigration problems. Telling immigration where you have traveled (such as my recent trip to Boracay) or even that you vacationed with a gf has never caused a problem for me.

I know two guys casually.

One gets questioned each time he returns from Colombia. He is young and black. They think he is smuggling drugs.

Another one made the error of having photos of a girl he hooked up with, in his mobile. TSA asked him if he had sex with her.

These are real concerns.

^That second guy is a dodo. :p

You guys may not notice, but what type of human does that? What type of person tries to "save" you, when to pretty much eveyone who ISN'T f***ed up, sees that they have nothing to worry about and they're just trying to ruin your time somewhere?

A person from the western demonic reality does that. Someone who has been brainwashed SO BAD, that they think they're the savior Jesus Christ! These people need to be cut off from you AT ALL costs. Don't keep facts like you f***ing foreign women, anywhere near your person;keep it in your mind! Or at the very least, put all that stuff on a portable hard drive.

ph_visitor wrote:

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BTW, I have never had any TSA/immigration problems. Telling immigration where you have traveled (such as my recent trip to Boracay) or even that you vacationed with a gf has never caused a problem for me.

I know two guys casually.

One gets questioned each time he returns from Colombia. He is young and black. They think he is smuggling drugs.

Another one made the error of having photos of a girl he hooked up with, in his mobile. TSA asked him if he had sex with her.

These are real concerns.

People get grilled all the time by immigration. Is it really worse because you had sex with a girl? Of course if you're coming back from Columbia they may assume drugs; if you're coming back from Thailand they may assume you're a whore monger. Does that mean you're not gonna get back into the country or get carted off to jail? I doubt it but I'm not gonna let it stop me.

The worst grilling I ever got was driving from Alaska into Canada and then back into Alaska with my ex, 2 kids and mother in law. The immigration guard was an a** but it's not like I was banned from the country lol!

Men should act reasonably and maturely in all dealings with officials. But they shouldn't let their fears stop them.