Will there ever be a men's rights (masculinist) movement?
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OzGuy
Joined: 25 Mar 2012
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Will there ever be a men's rights (masculinist) movement?
Do you guys think there will ever be a masculinist movement, similar to the feminist movement? I really hope there is someday.
If there ever is one, I think its still a while off yet. I think we have to hit absolute rock bottom before things start to get serious. Currently, most Anglo men don't really care, or aren't even aware of many issues, particularly those related to the law and family courts. It would seem that most members of MRA groups are members who have been affected by the injustice of the family law courts. These seem to be the only men who are actually doing something.
Although feminism and anti-male attitudes have been getting worse in Anglo countries, I have also noticed a little more movement from MRA groups and online forums over the past few years. This forum is one such example.
I think we are long overdue for a masculinist (or antifeminist) movement. I really hope one day things can return to normal as they were before the feminist movement. Unfortunately it is going to be a lot harder for a masculinist movement, as we also have the feminists trying to stop it. We have an enemy, they didn't.
What really angers me is that when a man stands up for men's rights, he is ALWAYS labelled as a "woman hater" by women (and some men). In contrast, when a woman stands up for women's rights she is labelled as "an independant, strong, and courageous woman".
Sun May 13, 2012 9:26 am
jamesbond
Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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Re: Will there ever be a men's rights (masculinist) movement
OzGuy wrote:
What really angers me is that when a man stands up for men's rights, he is ALWAYS labelled as a "woman hater" by women (and some men). In contrast, when a woman stands up for women's rights she is labelled as "an independant, strong, and courageous woman".
Yes, how dare a man stand up for himself. According to feminists, men should bend over backwards for them and if a man stands up for himself is he labeled a "sexist" and a "misogynist."
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Sun May 13, 2012 2:44 pm
boycottamericanwomen
Joined: 07 Jan 2011
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I doubt it, because most western men are total spineless faggot pussies who will never speak out against feminism.
Look at this forum. Look at how many men on here have attacked me for speaking out against feminism.
So if you want to know why anti-feminism will never catch on in the West, you can thank you Mangina brothers here.
And anyway, YOU can be the one who starts the movement. You can create a website and promote it the same way I did mine. Why are you waiting for someone else to do the work? Why don't YOU start the anti-feminist movement?
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Re: Will there ever be a men's rights (masculinist) movement
Ozguy,
everything you need to live free in the femnazi world has been gifted to you. Why would you need a "movement" to use what you have already been gifted?
Feminism won. The MRA is like an insurgency. We won't ever takeover but we will score victories from time to time.
Mon May 14, 2012 7:15 am
djfourmoney
Joined: 16 Oct 2010
Posts: 2045
Location: Los Angeles
Confuses souls...
Calling it "Men's Rights" is foolish. You want SOCIAL JUSTICE is what you want. If you LEVEL the playing field there largely nothing to bitch about.
As I keep saying you largely caused this problem and bought it onto yourselves, especially if your White. As I have said you don't openly do it (unlikely) but you vote for people that do these sorts of culture war platforms.
What you should be doing is setting up foundations, lobby groups and be inclusive!
A bunch of largely whinny men on the internet is not a movement. Fighting for equal rights (and that's what this is) is about leveling the playing field, not returning to a time when women were barefoot and pregnant.
Its about holding people responsible for their actions....
Mon May 14, 2012 9:27 am
FreeYourMind
Joined: 27 Jul 2010
Posts: 293
Feminism was/is a top-down financed and engineered ideology. It was never a "grass roots" movement, it was a well thought out and diabollicaly effective form of warfare imposed on society much like homosexuality and multiracialism. Feminism always had and continues to have near total backing from the power structure. Expecting a "mens movement" to bare any resemblance to feminism and how it gained monopolistic power is to misunderstand what has actually taken place over the past 45 years.
Men will win out, as will nature, because enlightened men seek truth, fairness and understanding. It is an irrepressible part of our nature. We live in an upside down Orwellian matrix that controls most of humanity in western countries, as the proletariat has always been easily manipulated, but there is a natural uncorrupted productive and sustaining group of men that cannot be brainwashed and controlled. With few exceptions these types are the builders and sustainers of a healthy society. Once a significant portion of this minority withdraws their consent from a system dedicated to their extinction, the entire house of cards will fall as a result of its accumulated corruption and injustices no matter how advanced its technology is. It's already faltering, enjoy the ride and do what's best for yourself and those you care about.
Mon May 14, 2012 9:34 am
boycottamericanwomen
Joined: 07 Jan 2011
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There are TOO MANY p***y a** WESTERN WOMEN for anti-feminism to ever truly take hold. Sure, anti-feminism is growing, but even still, there are too many faggot manginas out there. Look at this board, there's a lot of manginas even on here. DISGUSTING!
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Mon May 14, 2012 3:43 pm
The Illusive Man
Joined: 14 May 2012
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djfourmoney wrote:
What you should be doing is setting up foundations, lobby groups and be inclusive!
A bunch of largely whinny men on the internet is not a movement. Fighting for equal rights (and that's what this is) is about leveling the playing field, not returning to a time when women were barefoot and pregnant.
Its about holding people responsible for their actions....
Why make ourselves into a weaker version of our enemy? You have to play to your strengths and the MRM is better served decentralized and online. Besides feminism was backed by the elite we don't have that luxury.
For all the disparagement the past receives it's funny how well things worked then. It's only nowadays everything is unraveling and in collapse.
Mon May 14, 2012 7:36 pm
djfourmoney
Joined: 16 Oct 2010
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Location: Los Angeles
The Illusive Man wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:
What you should be doing is setting up foundations, lobby groups and be inclusive!
A bunch of largely whinny men on the internet is not a movement. Fighting for equal rights (and that's what this is) is about leveling the playing field, not returning to a time when women were barefoot and pregnant.
Its about holding people responsible for their actions....
Why make ourselves into a weaker version of our enemy? You have to play to your strengths and the MRM is better served decentralized and online. Besides feminism was backed by the elite we don't have that luxury.
For all the disparagement the past receives it's funny how well things worked then. It's only nowadays everything is unraveling and in collapse.
Are you White and Male? Nothing worked well back in the dayz unless you were, stop romanticizing with it. I suggest you read The Peoples History of America by Howard Zinn and then tell me how well things worked way back when.
Man Americans and its romantic love affair with the past. WW1 and WW2 were some of the bloodiest wars ever fought. In WW2 Blacks were marginalized who lost fewer men and less equipment than there White counterparts. They (White Men) resisted integrating the Military under Trueman and Trueman said stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
Women's reasons for wanting easier access to divorce are well-founded. But in a consumerist culture, the good reasons would give way to the bad reasons. Fix the consumerist culture and you'll largely stop the problem of "Starter Husbands".
What strengths do we have? Nobody has responded to what I feel will work best, which is fighting fire with fire. You don't have to use the same tactics but being a Single Man whining about Feminism won't work with extreme feminist, they'll just call you sexually depraved and bitter.
In other words, devout Single Men, Bachelors are not good symbols to use, they will be attacked unmercifully by vicious feminist.
Its much harder to attack men who have great relationships and children.
Using men like BAM to give shock troops raw meat will work, but not when your trying to articulate a message with the media.
As I said the goal should be Social Justice and Equality because most of our problems are based in the consumerist culture. Technology was suppose to free us from working long hours and stupid low paying jobs, so why didn't that happen??? You need to understand why that didn't happen and put that in motion. There is no reason to work 40 hours a week anymore. There is no reason robots can't box everything you order from Amazon.
Notice that this struggle for Men's Rights is only happening mainly in Anglo Culture? Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Mon May 14, 2012 10:37 pm
djfourmoney
Joined: 16 Oct 2010
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Location: Los Angeles
Re: Will there ever be a men's rights (masculinist) movement
jamesbond wrote:
OzGuy wrote:
What really angers me is that when a man stands up for men's rights, he is ALWAYS labelled as a "woman hater" by women (and some men). In contrast, when a woman stands up for women's rights she is labelled as "an independant, strong, and courageous woman".
Yes, how dare a man stand up for himself. According to feminists, men should bend over backwards for them and if a man stands up for himself is he labeled a "sexist" and a "misogynist."
Right, which is why I say using your wife as an attack dog is what would help the Men's movement. You can't be critical of a woman being a man doing the criticizing, they'll burn you at the stake.
But using your wife to attack radical/extreme feminist will work.
Mon May 14, 2012 10:43 pm
The Illusive Man
Joined: 14 May 2012
Posts: 9
djfourmoney wrote:
Are you White and Male? Nothing worked well back in the dayz unless you were, stop romanticizing with it. I suggest you read The Peoples History of America by Howard Zinn and then tell me how well things worked way back when.
People's History is communist drivel. If things were so awful why did the west rise above the rest? "Evil imperialism" only existed because western civilization was more cohesive, productive, and powerful, than all it's rivals. It's like the business world where the firm with the best practices takes the most market share and the west conquered the world.
djfourmoney wrote:
Man Americans and its romantic love affair with the past. WW1 and WW2 were some of the bloodiest wars ever fought. In WW2 Blacks were marginalized who lost fewer men and less equipment than there White counterparts. They (White Men) resisted integrating the Military under Trueman and Trueman said stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
Do you know the history of multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-racial empires like the USSR or Ottomans? There is always a hierarchy and dominant groups push everyone else around. That's human nature. That doesn't make it right but it is what it is. Considering how the black community has totally unraveled post 60's I'd say they were better off before. "Social justice" doesn't mean shit if you're growing up fatherless, addicted to crack, in prison, or dead.
djfourmoney wrote:
Women's reasons for wanting easier access to divorce are well-founded. But in a consumerist culture, the good reasons would give way to the bad reasons. Fix the consumerist culture and you'll largely stop the problem of "Starter Husbands".
What women want is largely inconsequential. No successful society on earth has indulged women and lived to tell the tale.
Tue May 15, 2012 12:20 am
djfourmoney
Joined: 16 Oct 2010
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Location: Los Angeles
Communist drivel huh?
Alright whatever, the point is yes societies have generally been unequal so what your saying that is a fact of life and we should move on to the next problem? Actually I do know about the Empire of the Ottomans the murder of Albanians, etc, etc, etc. The Black Community was fine before being co-opted by the Woman's Movement (Documented) and of course our Government crushing the head of the snake.
Also its true what you say about the proliferation of single mother, fatherless households. We are better of (as Black Men) without them, that is why they are worst than White Women in terms of being obstinate. At least some White Women want to have strong families and aren't looking to be dominate over their husbands.
Between Obesity, Single Motherhood and smaller numbers, Black Women are in trouble. Some realize it and are alarmist, but most ignore it but still want to blame successful Black Men for not marrying them.
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