Last night, me and a friend drove around to dozens of massage parlors and pub/KTV type of joints around Chiayi, Taiwan all night til 6am in the morning. We wanted to check them out and satisfy our curiosity about them, since they are often behind dark tinted windows with seductive soft lighting in front, which we found very alluring and curiosity-arousing. Both of us felt that going alone to such places felt intimidating and "out of flow" so it was easier to go together.
Here are some observations and discoveries we made, which contain some disappointing ugly truths:
- 9/10 of the females that work there are not only unattractive, but look ghetto and talk ghetto as well. They act like crack heads who smoke all day or something, and have worn faces. Thus it's no surprise that almost all of them have very dark lighting inside. This is an obvious bad sign and means that they have something to hide. When you see most of the women there, you understand why - most of them are repulsive or ghetto-like, and so to minimize their unattractive look, they have to reduce the lighting to the bare minimum.
Now, I don't know if this stupid tactic really works or not, since I can still tell what they look like with dim lights, especially if I get up close to them. But it's kind of stupid, because it makes the intention obvious and is an obvious bad sign. When I confronted them about it though, they deny it, but come on now, some things are too obvious. Anyhow, if this tactic works, it must work on the lowest type of Taiwanese guys who have no standards. I don't know. Usually Taiwanese guys are very picky about looks and only like young innocent thin types of girls. So I can't imagine that even low class Taiwanese guys would have no standards.
- Also, these massage joints often lied about the age of the ladies. The ladies often look older than what the manager tells you, or at least their worn out rugged appearance made them look older, I don't know. But you get a lot of disappointments here, especially since 80 percent of the girls in Taiwan are cute or good looking, yet the massage ladies are often NOT from among the 80 percent of attractive females in Taiwan. That's very disappointing.
- Occasionally, we got a jolt of excitement when a hot looking woman greeted us at the door of a massage parlor we drove up to, only to find out that she wasn't available and was only the hostess. My friend called this a deceptive "bait and switch" tactic. The above was bad enough, but this kind of "bait and switch" deception only made it worse. Gee, how bad can it get? After all, why would she dress so sexy and look so hot if she herself wasn't available?! That's kind of stupid and only leads to disappointment. Is that really good for the business of the place? Are they that desperate and low?!
- The picking process is also time consuming and inefficient. You can't just check out the ladies who work at the massage parlors in the lobby, or in a lineup. They always insist on you going upstairs to a dark bedroom, where you wait for each ghetto looking hag with bad attitudes to come in one at a time so that you have reject them one at a time, all under very dim lighting. It's a very time consuming process and inefficient, and goes against common sense. It'd be much quicker and efficient to just do a lineup like other countries do. This process also has a somewhat inconsiderate and seedy feel to it. It's another negative con of the Taiwan "pay for play" scene.
- The KTV/pub type places were also disappointing. To my surprise, there were quite a few of these places, but only a few of them had young pretty girls in them. However, when the girls that worked there walked by, they would not smile or make eye contact with us. Instead, they were cold and aloof. Only the guys that worked there would talk to us and try to answer our questions about how things worked there.
I tried my best to wave and smile and say hi to the KTV girls to get a response, but they mostly ignored us and walked away. Gee, you'd think that girls who were paid hostesses would be more friendly than that?! They seem to operate on bizarro logic. Do they think that being cold and antisocial is going to get customers to go in and spend money?! WTF?! Weird. I don't know. Taiwanese girls never made any sense to me. They are like from a different universe. Some are really nice and sweet, and those I usually meet by accident, but most of them are quite cold and uptight, especially if they are attractive.
I forgot to bring my spy camera. If I had it, I could have filmed them being cold and turning away from me as I tried to greet them, so you could see what I mean. I don't know. I guess many Taiwanese females are like that. Not all, but many are.
Sadly, in Taiwan the more attractive the girls are, the more cold and unfriendly they are, and the less attractive they are, the more easy going and friendly they are, which SUCKS and is one of the major drawbacks of Taiwan, though it's taboo to mention it. Now don't get me wrong. There are a lot of friendly people in Taiwan who smile and are cheerful and helpful and polite. But it seems that almost any good looking young tall skinny girl there will be totally self-absorbed with no social skills - which sucks if you are a guy. In short, the better looking a girl in Taiwan is, the LESS friendly she is, while the worse looking she is, the more friendly she is - which sucks if you are a guy who likes hot girls.
But for some reason it is politically incorrect to complain about this, as if you aren't supposed to. lol
It's too bad that Taiwan can't be like Russia, where hot girls are just as friendly, open and approachable, as average looking girls are, and have good social skills too - in total contrast to Taiwan, where the hottest girls are the most stuck up and have the most uptight walls around them. This is very true, but very taboo to mention for some reason. I don't know why. It's like it's obvious, but you aren't supposed to talk about it. Weird.
The prices at KTV's were also complicated and seemed kind of high. The guys who worked there kept quoting partial prices rather than the cost of everything altogether, as if they were trying to spin it to sound lower than it was, which made me hesitate even more. I don't know if they were trying to spin the prices to sound lower, or if they just had bad communication skills. After some prying, my friend told me that it would be several thousand NT for the girls, table, and drinks. However, the door guys kept it vague and only mentioned the 300NT per girl fee. I don't know why. Perhaps they do that on purpose. Hard to tell.
Overall though, I felt that I wouldn't get my money's worth there, so we didn't try them out. Plus a lot of trip reports on the internet say that Taiwan KTV's are overly priced and try to rip you off, so I had a lot of skepticism going in in the first place. It seems that they try to charge a lot in return for very little value or low quality entertainment. A lot of places won't even let you see the girls that work there.
I guess Taiwan is just not good for "pay for play" as I've often heard. Simply put, Taiwan is good for getting "hot food" but not for getting "hot girls". lol.
Also, some of the small pubs only had old hags that looked badly worn. I don't know what they are thinking, it's like they expect us guys to have no taste or standards? WTF?! That's another thing - I felt like I was often treated as if I was a guy with no tastes or standards in women. To me, that felt kind of inconsiderate, as well as a lack of common sense on their part. Very weird. I can't understand it.
I don't know. Maybe such places only cater to alcoholic guys who just want to drink, not to guys looking for "hot girls". That's the impression I got. But I just don't like their style at all. I have seen nicer pub places in Taichung though with attractive hostesses, when I went with my buddy Rock. But in Chiayi, they were kind of disappointing.
- Likewise, with the small massage parlors, of which there are dozens, I also felt like I was treated like a guy with no standards, as though they expected me to just walk in and go to the dark room in the back and accept whatever hag they brought in! WTF?! So inconsiderate!
- I did end up going to a place that I went to last time with Rock, where I got full service with this hot girl again that I had last time. However, her attitude was kind of shitty this time, as though she had become jaded and angry toward life, and developed a bad temper as well. I had a hard time climaxing, esp since I wasn't in the mood anyway. But her body was sexy and hot and felt good at least.
- I also had a good experience at a regular massage place a few days prior when I was with a female friend. It was a nice big Thai massage place with a fancy decor. The girl who gave me an hour massage was a very cute girl from China, who during the massage, kept hitting on me and dropping hints that she was interested in pursuing a relationship with a guy like me. I don't know if she was serious or if it was all an act to get me to come back, but she was very cute and sweet and I liked her a lot. However, the one hour massage cost 800NT ($27 USD) so it was kind of expensive and not the kind of thing I'd do often.
She did leave me her number though. I'll post the picture I took with her sometime. She claimed to be single, but someone told me that a girl from China can only live in Taiwan if she's married to a Taiwanese, so I don't know.
- Oh I forgot to mention the relative prices at these places. At the "pay for play" massage parlors, it costs about 1200NT ($40 USD) for half service - massage and hand job or blow job, or 2800NT - 3000NT ($100 USD) for full service - sex with condom. At regular clean massage parlors, it costs 800NT ($27 USD) for one hour or 1600NT ($52 USD) for two hours.
Last edited by Winston on Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:23 am; edited 2 times in total
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