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Are wars really necessary? Do we thrive on conflict?

Post by Winston » February 4th, 2013, 10:54 am

I have a deep question that I'm pondering. Are the wars throughout history and today really necessary? Why can't all world leaders just make compromises and mutually beneficial agreements like reasonable adults? Ever wonder about that?

I don't really see how or why wars are really necessary. They seem engineered or orchestrated for some diabolical or nefarious reason. For example, the two world wars of the 20th Century don't seem necessary at all. The official causes of them sound contrived, like they were created for a comic book or movie. When Batman movies and cartoons show Bruce Wayne's parents getting killed in the back alley by a mugger for no reason, it looks contrived and set up to give Bruce Wayne a reason to become Batman. Likewise, something about wars seems contrived and staged. They don't seem like a logical necessity. Or do they?

The corporations and leaders in countries like America that start wars seem rich and well off. It doesn't seem like profit would be their only motive in starting an unnecessary war (like Vietnam or Iraq). Could there be more going on than the public thinks? Could wars also be an "Illuminati/occult sacrifice ritual" for the dark occult rulers of this world, as some conspiracy researchers suggest? (such as David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, Mark Passio, etc.)

There is a saying that, "The organizing principle of society is war". What does that mean exactly? Does that mean that war is a necessity for the existence or harmony of society? If so, how and why?

Or could it be that whoever or whatever runs the "matrix" or "computer simulation" that we possibly live in (Google "Simulation Hypothesis" or "Nick Bostrom"), considers peace to be boring, so they have to engineer constant conflict and wars?

After all, think about this: If a movie showed only peace, harmony and goodness, would you enjoy it? Would you pay to watch it? Aren't movies only interesting if there's some kind of conflict involved? Could the same be said of reality as well?

Likewise, would you play a video game that had no conflict of any kind? Wouldn't such a game be boring and not worth your while? Don't game designers need to program conflict, challenges and obstacles in them to make them worth your while?

Could the same principle be at work in real life? Does this explain all the seemingly staged and unnecessary wars and conflict in the world?

Does life itself thrive on conflict and challenges? Would existence serve any purpose without them? Is peaceful existence without conflict or obstacles even possible in the universe or matrix that we live in?

Could our existence serve as mere entertainment for the creators of our matrix reality? Or do we serve some useful purpose to them?

Or perhaps wars and conflict are a necessary "balancing" of the duality of existence. Since there can't be a light without the dark, maybe there can't be peace without conflict either? Perhaps both must exist, or take turns in cycles, like the Ying and Yang union of opposites in Chinese Taoism? If so, then it would not be realistic to expect or hope for a world full of peace, joy and goodness right?

What do you think?
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Post by PeterAndrewNolan » February 4th, 2013, 11:19 am

Wars are necessary for the Illuminati to be able to control the sheeple more easily.

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Post by zacb » February 4th, 2013, 3:05 pm

Here is a better question: why does it seem like the poor and middle class, the ones who will be hurt by it in the end, cry for more war?
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Post by Winston » February 7th, 2013, 6:14 pm

zacb wrote:Here is a better question: why does it seem like the poor and middle class, the ones who will be hurt by it in the end, cry for more war?
Maybe because they are less educated and aware of what's going on? In the US though, I don't know anyone who is pro-war except a few rednecks and fanatic patriots. I don't think lower class people in the US support an unnecessary war, unless they are rednecks or white trash.

Here's another idea:

Perhaps wars and conflict are a necessary "balancing" of the duality of existence. Since there can't be a light without the dark, maybe there can't be peace without conflict either? Perhaps both must exist, or take turns in cycles, like the Ying and Yang union of opposites in Chinese Taoism? If so, then it would not be realistic to expect or hope for a world full of peace, joy and goodness right?
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Post by zacb » February 8th, 2013, 4:59 am

Perhaps. It just reminds me of Doug Stanhope on patriotism, and how he goes on about how we "saved" France's butt (when in actuality, it was the troops on the ground that did it.),

I think you are on to something with that. Perhaps it is a way to
depopulate in a natural way. IDK. But to be honest with you, name one war that was not preventable at least in American history?
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Post by Renata » May 7th, 2013, 12:11 am

According to the Geneva Convetion Treaties most of the recent wars are illegal, namely; the war in Afghanistan (2001–present), the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the invasion of Chechnya (1994–present) & the Syrian Civil War. If they can't obey the law why should I ??
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Post by fschmidt » May 7th, 2013, 12:43 am

Wars are necessary to destroy/remove decadent cultures.

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Post by Winston » September 13th, 2016, 4:58 pm

Hi all,
I want to share with you something I've learned about wars and why they are necessary, that is very disturbing but makes sense. They are necessary but not for the reasons you think though. They are necessary for reasons you probably never imagined. This truth, though like many others, comes in layers. Let me explain. But you gotta open up your mind though.

See here:
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Post by PeterAndrewNolan » October 22nd, 2016, 9:48 pm

Winston wrote:Hi all,
I want to share with you something I've learned about wars and why they are necessary, that is very disturbing but makes sense. They are necessary but not for the reasons you think though. They are necessary for reasons you probably never imagined. This truth, though like many others, comes in layers. Let me explain. But you gotta open up your mind though.

See here:
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=8589&p=270666#p270666
As I answered you long ago....wars are arranged by the Illuminati.

In the end they are a way of these non human nasty entities to harvest energy from the dying soldiers.

Further, war is necessary to consume the excess production so that people do not live in relative comfort and peace for too long.

As I have mentioned before...I have been in contact with non visible, intelligent beings that are telepathic and telekinetic since I was 16.

I mistook them for what other people might call "angels" because they always turned up when I was praying, being a good christian boy.

People in the west laugh at me when I talk about these beings.....when I finally told my fav#1 about them she laughed at me for thinking she might not believe me...she said

"Every 5 year old child in the Ukraine knows there are spirits, the trick is to get the good spirits to live in your house to keep the bad spirits away. We actually make food and leave it out for the spirits. If you do not do this bad spirits will move in to your house."

She was very matter of fact about it.

These entities were the ones who asked me to oppose governments....they are the ones who dictated living free in the femnazi world to me. They have always turned up when I have prayed for "help from God". It was one of these that told me to call my step son when he had cancer and wanted to quite chemo and die....and I found the words to inspire him to save his own life.

These entities saved my life when I was 6 years old and an attempt was made on my life....

In my opinion, and I have no way to know this, they were friendly to me and wanted me to be successful in making the case to the C300 not to genocide the human race....and that turned out to be the purpose of my life as an 11-11 person. I only found out I was an 11-11 in 2012 BTW.

So yes....these entities are out there...it would appear some are favourable to us and some are not. There seems to be conflict between them. They do not seem to have a united front themselves.

Some of these entities are definitely involved with the C300 and it would be a simple task for them to appear to people as some powerful being who was commanding them to do things....and since they can easily kill humans if one of these entities made an agreement with a human to kill on his behalf in return for favours from the human this would be very simple to arrange.

After all....since no one believes in non visible, intelligent, telekinetic, telepathic beings...if they kill someone that case is going to remain unsolved, right?

I have a feeling that some of these unexplained deaths like falling out of windows are the handiwork of these beings. They can certainly lift people and move them about quite easily with their telekenetic capability.

Wars are, in part, organised as a bit of a feeding opportunity for such beings....but also to make sure people are kept in fear most of the time because they are easier to farm that way.
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Post by Winston » July 25th, 2018, 3:01 am

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Do you think wars are a massive blood sacrifice ritual? Thats the only way a senseless war like Vietnam would make sense. I don't think the elite are dumb enough to start a war by mistake and then continue it for over ten years due to sheer ignorance or miscalculation alone. There must be more to it than that. The elite are way smarter than us and would not make mistakes that last over a decade.

After all the US soldiers in Vietnam were only told to go into the jungle and shoot any vietcong they see. There was no objective or goal. Such as capturing Hanoi. If they could capture Berlin in 1945 surely they could capture Hanoi. So the war seemed prolonged for some hidden reason. Victory was not the real goal.

And the battle of Gettysburg in the American Civil War made no sense. Why would a great general like robert e lee sacrifice thousands of men for nothing? He made this mistake three times too. Not just once. He could have just marched to washington dc if he was interested in victory and southern independence. Then he could force a treaty from there. But he seemed more interested in needless blood sacrifice. So u gotta wonder what his real purpose was.

The whole civil war also seems engineered. What are the odds that all the southern states would vote succession at the same time? It seemed calculated to create two opposing sides.

And if the confederacy really wanted to secede they could easily do it no matter how many bottles they lost. Just like the vietcong can refuse to surrender even though they lost every battle. And they will still win in the end. The confederacy could have done that and won their independence and the union couldnt do anything about it. No matter how many battles they win. So again this seems like a blood sacrifice ritual for lucifer or satan or entities.
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Post by Neo » July 25th, 2018, 3:05 am

The cause of war is lust for glory and riches.

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Post by Moretorque » July 26th, 2018, 11:01 am

Winston the elites wear us done with war and profit for themselves, they have revealed this in their writings......

Smeadley Butlers " War is a racket " sums it up from the profit view....
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