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Re: Are Utah Mormon girls a good option?

Post by MrMan » December 28th, 2017, 5:08 pm

Jehovah's Witnesses' beliefs are somewhat similar to Christian beliefs, except they do not believe in the deity of Christ. They also do not believe in Hell. They have some strange beliefs about the end times which they emphasize a lot. The 144,000 Jews in Revelation were supposed to be their group. But they grew to more than 144,000, so they said some of them would make it into that number. It doesn't make sense that they would be the 144,000 from reading the passage anyway. Jehovah's Witnesses are against saying the pledge of allegiance, getting blood transfusions, and celebrating Christmas or birthdays. They also may encourage people to cut contact with relatives outside of the organization, and they may shun people for odd reasons.

Mormons have much stranger beliefs in a lot of ways. They were started by a man named Joseph Smith who lived in the 1800's. He used to try to find treasure on people's property using divination stones or something along those lines. He supposedly found some gold plates. He never showed them to anyone except when they were wrapped in cloth. Then, he put a 'seer stone' in a hat, the story goes, and saw the translation to the plates which had writing on them in 'Reformed Egyptian.' From this, he translated the Book of Mormon, which tells of Israelites who settled in the new world before the white people got here. Some of them were 'white and delightsome' and were killed off by the Lamanites, who were cursed with dark skin. I suppose these were supposed to be the Indian tribes.

There are other Mormon beliefs that are kind of weird, too, like the idea that their Jesus and Lucifer and the rest of humanity were supposed to be spirit children and that their Jesus and Lucifer offered competing plans to be the savior of the world, and that when Lucifer lost, he rebelled. Those who joined his side were said to become demons. Those who joined their Jesus were supposed to have been born white, while those who were neutral, they say, were born black. They also say that their god is from or from near a star or planet named Kolob. Battle Star Galactica's planet Kobol is based on this name.

Smith claimed he got a revelation in favor of polygamy, and that an angel threatened him with a flaming sword to follow that revelation. Smith's flaming sword problem got him in a lot of trouble. He would 'spiritually' 'marry women', some of them single, some of them married. He had at least one young teenage girl. In one of his books, he has these prophecies demanding his wife forgive him. One book says it was wrong for David and/or Solomon to be polygamous, and a later book says it was not. There were more books in their canon than the book of Mormon. Before he died, for some reason a mob had him tied up for some infraction (I'm guessing related to his flaming sword issue), and tried to convince his doctor friend to castrate him. He got out of it, somehow.

A newspaper there in the town he'd fled to with lots of Mormons after being persecuted in Ohio printed some bad things about him after the near castration incident. He declared martial law and shut down the papers. The territory he was in charged him with a crime. After they got him into custody, I think, they changed the charge to a death penalty treason charge. He was kept under arrest in a certain house that was being used as a prison. But some of his friends or relations got him a pistol. He and certain others died in a shootout with a mob that gathered outside. Some Mormons leave the part out about the gun in his hand, and make him into a martyr.

He had allegedly prophesied that his son Joseph Smith would lead the church, but his son was quite small. The larger group went with one of the church leaders Brigham Young, and another faction of Mormons followed his son. Brigham Young went out to Utah. I've read Young claimed other men as his wives if they had been 'spiritually married' to Joseph Smith. He'd keep the wife and send the husband away on a mission. Brigham Young had lots of wives. During Young's time, some settlers on their way to Oregon were attacked by some Indians, then the white Mormons came and killed off the men.

The main group of Mormons were officially polygamous until just before the turn of the 20th century when the Congress required that they be nonpolygamous to be a state. So officially they opposed polygamy, though it apparently took a while for them not to be polygamous. Splinter groups formed around polygamy, and some of these groups have gotten media attention in recent decades.

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Re: Are Utah Mormon girls a good option?

Post by Adama » December 29th, 2017, 3:25 am

Maverick wrote:
December 25th, 2017, 8:51 pm
I spent about a year as a Mormon. I attended church regularly and made friends there. I dated there. I just wanted to see what this was like.

Ultimately, as discussed above, I found that the women are no better (and sometimes actually worse) than the typical AW.

So I don't go to church anymore. Haven't been in a few months now.
There is a book on sociopathy written by a woman who describes herself as a sociopath. Her name is M. E. Thomas. It is on Amazon. She claims to be a Mormon and she describes how she treats people in that book. People to her are tools to be used. They go into one of two categories: don't hurt them, and play with them. She has different names for the categories though. Basically if they are family, she won't try to mess with them. But as for almost anyone else, she works mischief against them for her personal pleasure.
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Re: Are Utah Mormon girls a good option?

Post by Fillip » August 19th, 2018, 1:08 pm

I'm not so religious

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Re: Are Utah Mormon girls a good option?

Post by redfeather » August 21st, 2018, 9:12 pm

The worst mistake I ever made was to marry a Mormon woman in Austin, Texas. I was a young Army 2LT, and while I was traveling back and forth to Ft Sill, Ok she was back in Austin pfucking anyone that would stick one in her. She divorced me to run off with some married guy she was having an affair with (the married guy dumped her and ran crawling back to his wife like a p***y). After all this destruction I quietly left the church, and I just started what I call my OLC outdoor life church which was hunting and fishing and enjoying the great outdoors. I had a friend I know several months ago that met this woman online and they had been chatting for many months, so he flew to see this woman in another city and he spent several days pounding her snatch...and he said he got suspicious and he kept questioning her...and she finally came clean that she was engaged to another Mormon he said I ran as fast as I could and did not look back. So, this Miss Mormon who got plowed by who knows how many guys is probably married to some Mormon guy who does not have a clue that she did the whole football team in the locker room. My advise on Mormon's would be to be very cautious about getting involved with one, and do your research and keep your eyes wide open. You have been warned.

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Re: Are Utah Mormon girls a good option?

Post by jamesbond » September 10th, 2018, 2:46 am

I believe Mr. S who has been a poster here for a long time mentioned a few years ago that he was married to a Mormon girl a long time ago. He said Mormon girls are entitled, materialistic and often cheat on their husbands. The two of them got a divorce and he vowed never to get involved with a Mormon girl ever again.
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Post by suprmon » September 12th, 2018, 3:17 am

tre wrote:
November 18th, 2013, 10:11 am
Taco wrote:
Winston wrote:Are the Mormon girls in Salt Lake City, UT pretty approachable, sweet and feminine?

Any of you been there?
Mormon men have a strong tendency to put Mormon women on a pedestal and worship them. As a result you'll find that most Mormon women are no different in their attitudes towards men than mainstream American women. While many of them are friendly they will make it quite clear they are the superior officer and the mans role is to obey their every command. In other words they will not submit to you, a classic sign of a middle class woman.
I think this is mostly accurate. I was raised Mormon and most of my family are still active. I am no longer religious at all. There are good and bad Mormons of course. The benefits of a good Mormon girl are:

1) They are virgin with mostly NO experience in anything sexual
2) They put a very high priority on marriage and having children
3) They will mostly accept her gender role and be willing to stay at home to raise the kids
4) Less likely to cheat or even think about cheating.

The "cons" of a good Mormon girl are:

1) They can be extremely conservative when it comes to sex. Of example, oral sex can be off the table permanently (with SOME). "Unnatural sex" is a very real word in their vocabulary. Sex is seen as something between a man, woman and God...they want it to be respectful all the time. This isn't always the case, of course.
2) You (the man) will ALWAYS take a back seat to the children...always. You will be expected to provide for the family no matter what. When you come home, you will be expected to help around the house no matter how tired you are from work.
3) They pretty much think INSIDE of their little box...all the time. They have little understanding of the rest of the world and really strive to stay away from it. They are extremely conservative in their way of thinking and can be very judgmental as well. This can get aggravating in daily
4) Young Mormon women want to date/marry ONLY YOUNG Mormon men...preferably return missionaries. This puts them out of reach to 99.9% of the male population. Mormon return missionaries (men) are usually between the ages of 20 and 22 now (younger than previous years). That is the prime age for marriage for Mormon men. The prime marriage age of Mormon women is 18-20.

The LDS (Mormon) religion has some very good parts to it (example: Food Storage/Garden instructions, Moral Teachings, etc.) but many drawbacks as well. They have no paid clergy (everything is voluntary) so that's also good. You can be "Mormon" without paying 10% tithing and can go to church every Sunday. You just won't be able to attend the Temple if you don't follow every teaching...including tithing, Law of Chastity, Word of Wisdom (alcohol and drugs), etc.. Breaking the Law of Chastity is a very serious sin to them. You can be excommunicated for simply having sex outside of marriage.

#4 of the "Con" section is the big NO-GO for most guys here though....if you are in your 30's or older you are out of luck! You might find a divorced Mormon woman (most likely with a child...or 5), but you won't be getting the young virgins at a later age.

If the young virgin women dislike older guys so much, then why did they choose to be among the dozens of wives of all those old farts that ran them Mormon enclaves?

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