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Are carbs, grains, wheat, gluten really bad for your health and weight?

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Re: Are carbs, grains, wheat really bad for your health/weig

Post by droid » May 12th, 2017, 6:49 am

Winston wrote:How vegetarians can get enough protein. ... t-protein/
It's not just protein Winston. I know you guys are into the copper thing but all those nuts and grains contain a lot of copper, you need to watch your Zinc intake as well. These two need to be in balance.
From what I've seen It seems vegetarians need to supplement with at least Zinc, B12 and Creatine.

Check this out, you'll probably dismiss it as too mainstream though ... fish-eggs/
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?

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Re: Are carbs, grains, wheat really bad for your health/weig

Post by dancilley » September 25th, 2017, 1:16 pm

In my experience, with myself, the only way I gain fat is if I eat animal products or oils.

This is because, "the fat you eat is the fat you wear."

It's not possible, according to John McDougall, M.D, to gain fat from eating high-carb foods, under normal circumstances. It's just too difficult for the body to convert carbs to fat. When you eat high-carb foods such as rice or potatoes or beans (without any added butter or oil or sour cream or cheese, etc.), it takes 30% of the calories of the food to convert the carbs to fat. The rest of the calories are burned off as heat and as non-exercise physical activity, such as fidgeting.

To lose fat, exercise and eat foods such as rice, beans, split peas, lentils, bread (without oil), potatoes (not potato chips), any vegetables (but not fried vegetables from restaurants which have oil). Eat green vegetables, because they are super nutrient-dense, and when I eat a diet of nutrient-dense foods, I do not feel as hungry as often, so I eat less food. Eat low-calorie foods such as green leafy vegetables and carrots and turnips and onions.

You will get gas from some of these foods. Take an alpha-galactosidase enzyme in order to break down the indigestible fibers...your body (the bacteria in your intestine) can multiply and you will therefore be able to more easily digest the food over time, so you will have less gas. If you eat too many beans or split peas or lentils or cabbage or onions or bananas, you will have large amounts of gas. But these foods are very healthy otherwise.

It's very easy to lose weight. You get to eat as much as you want of healthy food; you never have to "portion-control."

At first, you will feel that the food doesn't taste as good as what you're used to eating. Make sure you do put salt and sugar and spices on the food in order to make it taste much more stimulating. Salt and sugar are not very unhealthy at all compared to animal products and oils. Animal products and oils immediately injure the lining of the arteries...hence how 1 out of 4 people in the U.S. will die of heart disease or stroke.

If you eat too many vegetables and/or legumes, you will feel weak and not have as much energy as you're used to, because you will not be eating enough calories. This means you will be eating too few calories overall, so you will need to eat fewer vegetables, and more grains and potatoes.

If you feel weak even though you eat huge amounts of potatoes and sweet potatoes and rice, you will probably need to eat some nuts and/or seeds.

If you still feel weak even though you eat handfuls of nuts and are eating huge amounts of rice and potatoes, then you are probably just lacking the drug-like stimulation of the unhealthy food that you suddenly stopped exposing your brain to. Drug-like foods are: chocolate, cheese, meat, sugar, oil, salt, and probably MSG and other flavor-enhancers, and caffeine.

The reason people are fat is because they eat fat.

The fat you eat is the fat you wear, because it is soooo easy for the body to move the fat from the intestine into the bloodstream and then into the fat cells. It only takes 3% of the calories of the high-fat food in order for it to be transported into the fat cells. The fat you eat doesn't have to be converted.

It goes "from your lips to your hips."

And that's what happens, in my experience.

It's so simple.

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Re: Are carbs, grains, wheat, gluten really bad for your health and weight?

Post by Winston » October 21st, 2018, 3:38 am

Is this true about why grains don't make you any more fat or cause diabetes or obesity any more than meat does? If so then why is diabetes on the rise? And why am I fat even when I eat little or average amounts? ... gs.YaTXiNg
Claim 3: Whole grains make you fat.

Aug-3_Carbs-Grains_Body-14_12_Gluten-Free-Grains-Seeds_71245129This pillar is based on the idea that carbohydrates cause obesity because they elevate insulin levels and therefore increase fat storage.

The logic behind this theory assumes that:

1. Insulin plays a primary role in making us fat.
2. Only carbohydrates elevate insulin levels.

Let’s examine these claims together.

For starters, research shows that body fat is regulated by the brain—not by fat tissue itself or an insulin-secreting pancreas.

The primary role of insulin is to manage the concentrations of nutrients.

When insulin suppresses fat burning, it is normally because there is an abundance of glucose. In other words, insulin ‘tells’ storage tissues to stop burning fat because carbohydrates are available as fuel.

However, if you eat a diet high in fat (and low in carbohydrates), insulin ‘instructs’ your body to burn fat instead of carbohydrates, but it will not dip into your fat stores any more (or any less) than if your diet was based on carbohydrates. As long as the calories consumed are close to or in excess of what you need, fat storage will remain the same.

Aug-3_Carbs-Grains_Body-13_8_Gluten-Free-Grains_55141016Another problem is that the carbohydrate-insulin theory also presumes that carbohydrates have some unique relationship with insulin causing the latter to spike.

However, when you examine the insulinogenic index (a measure of how much eating food increases insulin per unit calorie), you see that protein-rich foods like beef increase insulin secretion as much as carbohydrate-rich foods like pasta.

In the end, 3 billion people on the planet live on grain-based diets with little or no obesity.

The reason?

Whole grains are low in calories (particularly when compared to animal foods), low in fat and high in satiating carbohydrates.

While it is true that a few people are sensitive to some types of whole grains and should avoid them, for most of us whole grains are a health-promoting addition to our diet, especially when the diet is already based on the consumption of whole plant foods.
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Re: Are carbs, grains, wheat, gluten really bad for your health and weight?

Post by Traveler » October 21st, 2018, 5:21 pm

Great advice:

"Grains have some very negative attributes (phytic acid, lectins, allergenic proteins, linoleic acid, aflatoxin), but so do fruits, so do vegetables, so do dairy products, so does sugar, so do nuts, so do seeds, so does meat, so do root vegetables, so does fish, so do legumes, so do eggs, so does chocolate, so does red wine, so does green tea, so does water. Nothing is definitively good or bad. Almost all foods have positive AND negative attributes, and at the end of the day we all have to eat something....

"Reality Bite #1 – Most people who do notice losing weight when they eliminate gluten from their diets are losing weight because they are eliminating virtually ALL of their favorite foods....

"Reality Bite #2 – The vast majority of people who embark on any diet, or restrict any food, will be unable to continue to live with that restriction forever if it is in disharmony with their normal social environment....

"Reality Bite #3 – Most people don’t need to eliminate gluten from their diets to dramatically improve their health… Even if they are sensitive to it! In fact, the overly-reactive, overly-allergic, hyperinflammatory state that often brings about the poor reaction in the first place, is a state that can be reduced without eliminating grains from the diet... I encourage people to look at food sensitivities as the disease, not something that causes disease, until they have exhausted all measures to overcome them....

"Reality Bite #4 – Gluten-free diets suck. Even if they could expand your lifespan by a few years or even a decade I would still be hesitant to do it. Being carefree and easygoing about your diet and health practices is a strong virtue for health and beyond. And foods containing gluten are very enjoyable to eat, which shouldn’t be discounted as 'unimportant' or a sign of 'addiction' and 'weakness.'....

"Reality Bite #5 – Grain consumption has an inverse relationship worldwide with most modern degenerative disease. This may or may not be meaningful, and I’m not very fond of any statistics interfering with a person’s highly individual dietary choices, but it’s the truth nonetheless. Generally the more grain and carbohydrates in general that a nation eats by proportion of total food intake, the leaner and less prone to the major diseases that nation is (diabetes, cancer, heart disease, autoimmune disease)."

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Re: Are carbs, grains, wheat, gluten really bad for your health and weight?

Post by dancilley » November 29th, 2018, 12:43 am

Winston wrote:
October 21st, 2018, 3:38 am
Is this true about why grains don't make you any more fat or cause diabetes or obesity any more than meat does? If so then why is diabetes on the rise? And why am I fat even when I eat little or average amounts?
Yes, it's true. It's very simple. The fat you eat, is the fat you wear, Winston. It is very difficult to store carb calories as fat; the body cannot convert carbs to fat under ordinary circumstances.

You probably eat a lot of fat. Do you eat only rice, beans, vegetables, and fruits? Or, do you eat rice from restaurants that has oil in it, salad that has salad dressing (oil) in it, tofu that is fried in oil?

You're a vegetarian, so that means you don't eat meat...but do you eat high fat foods such as cheese, ice cream, cream cheese, yogurt, butter, hummus, chips?

Diabetes is on the rise because the foods Americans eat are very high in fat, low in fiber and carbs (carbs satisfy the hunger drive), and taste better than they should because of MSG and other flavor enhancers, so people eat more than they otherwise would.

The main thing though, is, "The fat you eat, is the fat you wear." - Live The Best Life Possible!

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