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Re: Where could I move?

Post by Light » June 2nd, 2018, 3:34 am

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Re: Where could I move?

Post by flowerthief00 » June 2nd, 2018, 6:30 am

Light wrote:
June 2nd, 2018, 3:34 am
Being without a girl has caused me some health problems because of the stress and social isolation. I need a girl so I can have sex everyday. It's like oxygen, water, or food. I need sex to survive and without it I am losing years off the end of my life.
That in itself sounds like a health disorder :shock: No one needs sex to survive.

As a MGTOW you should already know this, but the basic strategy is to divide the different benefits men used to get from being with a woman and seek them out each through other means.

Friendship: You can get that from other men. You have to cultivate it and nourish it of course.
Sex: A number of solutions here...no one solution is for everyone, but sex dolls are beginning to take off.
Love: This is a hard one. Real love from a woman towards a man may not even exist! But simply understanding that fact may help you to overcome the longing for it.

Resettling yourself on the other side of the globe just for the sake of having a girlfriend seems extreme to me. You had better at least visit first and be damn sure you like the place.

There are lots of us who struggle with living in this strange time when a normal relationship between a man and a woman is a thing of the past, but we each have to cope with it somehow.

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Re: Where could I move?

Post by Yohan » June 2nd, 2018, 7:08 am

Light wrote:
June 2nd, 2018, 3:34 am
I know but I can't wait to get a girl. I have been losing patience trying to regulate my own life. Being without a girl has caused me some health problems because of the stress and social isolation. I need a girl so I can have sex everyday. It's like oxygen, water, or food. I need sex to survive and without it I am losing years off the end of my life. Men that get sex from a girlfriend or a wife live longer, are happier, and have less stress. P4P doesn't give the same health benefits as sex with a girlfriend or wife.

I am a MGTOW in America so I have forgotten about them. I wouldn't even date one if I was paid to date one. I am happier as a MGTOW because I know I'd be more upset with life if I tried dating an American girl.
You will feel much better after you left USA, regardless where you settle down in EU. It's not the best place in the world - I told you I left EU for good. However it is by far better in many aspects compared to USA. At least what I have seen during my short stays in USA, and my younger daughter who was living in the States also came back to Japan.

However in case you move out of USA, you should be aware of the risk - and the risk something unexpected might happen is very small in EU for you.
Believe me it is nothing worse than to sit on an airplane and to move back from where you come from, bankrupt. During my 40 years in Asia I met such men, totally down, lost everything and who had no other choice but to go back (or to jump out of a window from a high building on the upper floors). To start after departure in EU looks to be the best option.

Taking care as an admin of a MGTOW-Forum - also financially - since over 10 years, I heard many stories from men in USA. Terrible stories. Divorced, living in a van, totally isolated wherever they go. To stay single in USA without any contact to women seems to be the only rather safe way to go for men. Sad but true...
I have nothing to offer most girls in the EU. Why would a girl want to date an American immigrant to the EU ....
This is by far too pessimistic. you think too much about the American way of life.

I could say the same about me when moving over to Asia. My Chinese girl in Malaysia and the entire family with her were really rich, and I had nothing to offer and still they wanted me to stay with them - but I left, not really the type of people fitting me and I was moving on later to Japan.

My Japanese wife was not that rich, but also not poor at all, just an average person and I still had nothing... and well, looking back it took me a while to regulate that to the better - but I could change that... I am not alone anymore, as I have wife, 2 daughters, 1 fosterdaughter, 1 granddaughter, a comfortable housing in Japan and Thailand, financially secure up to end of life, best healthcare, savings...just everything I was dreaming about....
I would move there only if she was close to her family and wanted to be with me, but would not leave her family for me so if I had to choose between living in Russia with her or living in the EU...
Unlike the States, there is no problem in EU to bring in a foreign wife as EU-citizen to join, even to invite a girlfriend, at least for while.
I think you should bring her to EU-countries and not move yourself to Russia or such places as long as you have to work for a salary...
Distances are short to the Western part of Russia and you can move around easily by train or driving your own car.

Siberia is a different matter. A long way.
Be aware that Ukraine, some other countries nearby and Russia itself have a lot of forgettable rotten cities and villages, with nothing to offer...

About the quality of Russian wives, I think it is exaggerated. Russia has its problems too with single moms, teen pregnancy, abortion, spoiled overdemanding young girls growing up without a father, alcoholism etc. - Not all Russian women are modest and were brought up strictly disciplined in a family with good value.

Maybe some other members will also add some comments about Russian women in this thread.

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Re: Where could I move?

Post by Yohan » June 2nd, 2018, 8:51 am

flowerthief00 wrote:
June 2nd, 2018, 6:30 am
Light wrote:
June 2nd, 2018, 3:34 am
.... I need sex to survive and without it I am losing years off the end of my life.
... No one needs sex to survive.

As a MGTOW you should already know this, but the basic strategy is to divide the different benefits men used to get from being with a woman and seek them out each through other means.
.....
There are lots of us who struggle with living in this strange time when a normal relationship between a man and a woman is a thing of the past, but we each have to cope with it somehow.
I agree with you - ordinary men have their problems to find any reasonable girl - while every bad boy, rich playboy, braggart, etc. has a lot of women running after them. The critera which women are choosing men nowadays in Western countries are appalling.

USA/UK are especially restrictive to men, due to political correctness and rampant radical feminism - everything about men coming from women is hateful. Life is no fun there for men.

I think, it is still better in Continental Europe. While women in Continental Europe are often nothing but trash with multiple boyfriends around, the hateful and scornful feminist movement is missing.

For example there is no bad talk if you bring a foreign wife back to your country and nobody will find that to be a wrong choice of a loser.

It is possible to survive without a woman next to you in Europe, due to activities - there are open borders and everybody has a passport, there are regulated holidays for you, usually at least 3 or 4 weeks fully paid - most EU-countries have only few restrictions regarding brothels and porn etc.

It's easy to move around driving your own car, for example Portugal is not Sweden, and Bulgaria is not Netherland. It's not like in USA. You can travel around and you see really different people.

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Re: Where could I move?

Post by jamesbond » June 4th, 2018, 4:50 am

Yohan wrote:
June 1st, 2018, 4:18 pm
USA is a horror for men regarding dating, I have been in USA only for short time and I have seen over there the worst women in my life.
I can only say, forget about any woman living in USA - it's time-waste.

You're exactly right, American women are probably the worst women on the face of the earth. If a man is going to live in the USA, it's best if he becomes a MGTOW and avoids American women like the plague! :shock:

He can check out other countries and see if he finds one he really likes and try to find a job in that particular country. Bringing a foreign women back to the US can be problematic (the divorce laws in the US are all in a woman's favor).

I hear of more and more men in America who are looking into moving to a foreign country to find better women and also to find better job prospects. This trend will continue for decades to come.
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"

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Re: Where could I move?

Post by Yohan » June 4th, 2018, 5:53 am

jamesbond wrote:
June 4th, 2018, 4:50 am
.....You're exactly right, American women are probably the worst women on the face of the earth. If a man is going to live in the USA, it's best if he becomes a MGTOW and avoids American women like the plague! :shock:
.....
I hear of more and more men in America who are looking into moving to a foreign country to find better women and also to find better job prospects. This trend will continue for decades to come.
You are right, with the downfall of the US-economy the value of the US-dollar in Asia - except in totally poor countries like Cambodia or Myanmar - is also going down. It takes years, but USA is not a dream destination any more for educated immigrants coming from developed countries.

When I came first time to Japan, USD 1,- was yen 360,-, later on for about 20 years always around yen 250,- and today's exchange rate is yen 108,-.
Ranking for the worldbank index of GNI per capita including purchasing parity was near the top, now it is rank #19.
This is NOT a bad rank and USA is NOT a cheap place, far away from that yet, but it clearly shows a down-tendency. Every few years a little bit lower.
Salaries did not change much in USA, but there are more taxes than ever before to pay. Despite the US dollar is low now, other powerful countries are producing still much cheaper (China) taking away business from the States.

Before my retirement I frequently met people from USA coming into Japan and all of them considered Japan as expensive (or surely not cheaper than any expensive city in the States) and when asking me how I manage this with my salary, I told them how much I earned net per month and they were looking at me with big eyes and said something to me like 'what? so much?'

Yes, it makes sense if you are from USA, have a bit of an educational background, are willing to accept the fact that your own country is not longer the 'paradise on earth' to move out.

After arrival however, at least here in Asia, please refrain from any complaints about 'human rights' 'women rights' 'children right' 'animal rights' 'racism' and don't try to convert people into Christianity or such BS.

Of course also to tell you the truth, some people from the States - women, but also some men - are unable to fit into Asian society.
I met men from USA, who were explaining locals in Japan that Buddhism is a bad religion, another one was shouting at a simple Thai salesgirl how stupid she is as she cannot understand and speak proper English - so I was asking him how many languages do you speak? He was looking at me like if I am the man on the moon....hopeless case.

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Re: Where could I move?

Post by MrLee4u » June 4th, 2018, 6:41 am

Yohan wrote:
June 1st, 2018, 4:18 pm
]USA is a horror for men regarding dating, I have been in USA only for short time and I have seen over there the worst women in my life. I can only say, forget about any woman living in USA - it's time-waste.
Oh just shut the f**k up. If you're not retarded America is just fine. You and this guy are both mentally ill autistis. That's why you have such a hard time.

http://culturewhiz.org/forum/topic/why- ... rs-men-usa

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Re: Where could I move?

Post by MrLee4u » June 4th, 2018, 7:13 am

Yohan wrote:
June 4th, 2018, 5:53 am
jamesbond wrote:
June 4th, 2018, 4:50 am
.....You're exactly right, American women are probably the worst women on the face of the earth. If a man is going to live in the USA, it's best if he becomes a MGTOW and avoids American women like the plague! :shock:
.....
I hear of more and more men in America who are looking into moving to a foreign country to find better women and also to find better job prospects. This trend will continue for decades to come.
You are right, with the downfall of the US-economy the value of the US-dollar in Asia - except in totally poor countries like Cambodia or Myanmar - is also going down. It takes years, but USA is not a dream destination any more for educated immigrants coming from developed countries.

When I came first time to Japan, USD 1,- was yen 360,-, later on for about 20 years always around yen 250,- and today's exchange rate is yen 108,-.
Ranking for the worldbank index of GNI per capita including purchasing parity was near the top, now it is rank #19.
This is NOT a bad rank and USA is NOT a cheap place, far away from that yet, but it clearly shows a down-tendency. Every few years a little bit lower.
Salaries did not change much in USA, but there are more taxes than ever before to pay. Despite the US dollar is low now, other powerful countries are producing still much cheaper (China) taking away business from the States.

Before my retirement I frequently met people from USA coming into Japan and all of them considered Japan as expensive (or surely not cheaper than any expensive city in the States) and when asking me how I manage this with my salary, I told them how much I earned net per month and they were looking at me with big eyes and said something to me like 'what? so much?'

Yes, it makes sense if you are from USA, have a bit of an educational background, are willing to accept the fact that your own country is not longer the 'paradise on earth' to move out.

After arrival however, at least here in Asia, please refrain from any complaints about 'human rights' 'women rights' 'children right' 'animal rights' 'racism' and don't try to convert people into Christianity or such BS.

Of course also to tell you the truth, some people from the States - women, but also some men - are unable to fit into Asian society.
I met men from USA, who were explaining locals in Japan that Buddhism is a bad religion, another one was shouting at a simple Thai salesgirl how stupid she is as she cannot understand and speak proper English - so I was asking him how many languages do you speak? He was looking at me like if I am the man on the moon....hopeless case.
Oh my god you're sooo dumb. You were talking to low class factory workers! You can't compare the whole Unite *States* to Japan you idiot. There is a considerable gap between the richest and poorest – the top 20% of the population earn more than six times as much as the bottom 20% just like in America.

https://resources.realestate.co.jp/livi ... ation-age/

If you're top tier in America, no where else will pay more.

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Re: Where could I move?

Post by publicduende » June 4th, 2018, 9:03 am

MrLee4u wrote:
June 4th, 2018, 7:13 am
There is a considerable gap between the richest and poorest – the top 20% of the population earn more than six times as much as the bottom 20% just like in America.

https://resources.realestate.co.jp/livi ... ation-age/

If you're top tier in America, no where else will pay more.
At least "poor" people in Japan have dignity and strive to be the best they can. What we see in the States is low-life scum like you who has to roam Internet forums posing as the educated, successful tech entrepreneurs they are not (and never will be).

Keep hauling those boxes and leave us alone PAG, already.

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Re: Where could I move?

Post by Yohan » June 4th, 2018, 10:09 am

I do not read anything what PAG or similar trolls are posting, they are on my ignore list. I can only comment what I read from publicduende.

I and others on this forum do not belong to the 'top tier in America' and I am not interested if they earn x times more than ordinary people in USA, Saudi Arabia, Japan or anywhere else in this world.

If you belong to the 'top tier in America' you need not to move as you can live everywhere you like, pay out any woman and it will not make you poorer etc. etc.

This forum is for men, who belong to the lower and average income group and for various reasons consider to relocate and/or are interested to meet foreign women in search of a wife or girlfriend away from the pro-feminist Western world.

About living in Japan, as everywhere, there are advantages and disadvantages. You have to check out yourself which place in this world fits you best.

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