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Does wheat bread or brown rice make you fat?

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Does wheat bread or brown rice make you fat?

Post by Winston » November 7th, 2008, 5:25 pm

Dear all,
One of the reasons why I'm fat, despite being a vegetarian, is that I eat too much carbohydrates, in the form of bread, rice, and popcorn. Also cookies, chips, cake, etc.

Now, we all know that wheat or multi grain bread is better for you than white bread, and brown rice is more nutritious than white rice. So that's what I mostly eat now. But what if I eat too much wheat bread or brown rice? Is that bad for you? Or is it safe to pig out on them?

It seems that the only thing that's safe to pig out on are fruits, vegetables, and maybe saltine crackers, but that's it?
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Post by momopi » November 7th, 2008, 7:23 pm

It's bad to "pig out" on anything, including water. Eat in moderation and not in excess.

White bread, white rice, popcorn, cookies, chips, cakes, etc. are mostly empty calories. Brown rice and whole grain wheat bread provide better nutrition.

Companies like Interstate Bakeries have already stopped producing "Wonder Bread" in Southern California, because white bread is now out of fashion.

Fruits such as apples, cherries, grapes, mangos, pears, pinapple, bananas, etc. contain a lot of sugar and should be eaten in moderation. Meleons, grapefruit, tomato, papayas, plums, apricots, kiwi, etc. contain less sugar.

Too much vegetables is not good because of oxalate, goitrogen, & purines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goitrogen


Here's a good web site on healthy foods:
http://whfoods.com/foodstoc.php
http://whfoods.org/


One of my old ex-GF's bother is a vegetarian, and probably one of the most unhealthy persons I know. He eats fried veggies all the time and is physically huge. Just walking across the parking lot is physically straining for him.


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Post by wuming » November 8th, 2008, 3:02 am

As momopi said, it's not a great idea to "pig out" on anything. While brown rice and whole wheat bread are certainly better than white rice or white bread, eating too much will not only cause short-term "fatness" but long-term health problems. Your waistline is your lifeline - the trimmer the waist, the longer and healthier you'll be. Indeed, the only well-demonstrated way to extend your lifespan is to eat less:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caloric_restriction

The other side of the equation is exercise. We all need some regular aerobic exercise, and anaerobic bursts are good too.

If you are serious about improving your health/diet, you must begin by keeping a food log for at least a week, and shine a light on unconscious habits. It's now quite convenient to do this online:

http://thedailyplate.com

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Post by momopi » November 9th, 2008, 11:45 pm

wuming wrote:As momopi said, it's not a great idea to "pig out" on anything. While brown rice and whole wheat bread are certainly better than white rice or white bread, eating too much will not only cause short-term "fatness" but long-term health problems. Your waistline is your lifeline - the trimmer the waist, the longer and healthier you'll be. Indeed, the only well-demonstrated way to extend your lifespan is to eat less:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caloric_restriction
I've often wondered if the 1934 study at Cornell influenced Elijah Muhammad's (Nation of Islam) ideology? His books "How to Eat to Live" is basically "eat less, live longer":

http://www.seventhfam.com/temple/books/ ... 1index.htm
http://www.seventhfam.com/temple/books/ ... 2index.htm

Some of his claims are way off the wall, but if the idea of caloric restriction might have been in fashion at the time.

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Re: Does wheat bread or brown rice make you fat?

Post by dancilley » November 29th, 2018, 12:56 am

Winston wrote:
November 7th, 2008, 5:25 pm
Dear all,
One of the reasons why I'm fat, despite being a vegetarian, is that I eat too much carbohydrates, in the form of bread, rice, and popcorn. Also cookies, chips, cake, etc.
There is a difference between bread that has no added oil or butter in it, and bread that has none.

There is a difference between microwavable popcorn in a bag, and air-popped popcorn.

There is a difference between potato chips and potatoes.

It's the fat, Winston. The fat you eat is the fat you wear. All you have to do is avoid eating oil, butter, cheese, sour cream, hummus, chips, cake, chocolate, etc.

You can pig out on grains, beans, vegetables, and fruits. But make sure that there is no added oil or butter to the rice, if you are eating in a restaurant, for example. Everything at a restaurant seems to have some type of fat added to it, by default.

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