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Why are Americans so fake? Fake Smiles, fake greetings, etc?

Postby lovelybunny » Fri May 17, 2013 8:30 pm

I mean, they smile at you then plunge a knife in your back without a second thought. They also lie and pretend to be your friends. They also ask 'how are you?' but do NOT care. Why the hypocrisy and lies?
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Postby Repatriate » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:31 pm

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Damn. That pretty much sums up American society in a nutshell. That's the single best pic i've seen you post.
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Postby anamericaninbangkok » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:39 am

Do you really think Americans are the only ones like this? C'mon, people are like this all over the world.
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Postby Winston » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:49 am

anamericaninbangkok wrote:Do you really think Americans are the only ones like this? C'mon, people are like this all over the world.


You need to travel more. People in Russia do not give fake smiles at all and hate the way Americans do it. Same with Eastern Europe. In Poland, people do not even use the greeting "How are you?" because they say that question is useless and pointless.

The Ukraine girl I went out with told me that she hated that in Colorado, every time someone asked "How are you?" she felt obligated to give a positive response. She said that in Ukraine, you are not expected to always give a positive response to such a question.

Anyway, Ladislav is the master in culture comparison here, not you. He is the Obi-Wan Kenobi of culture comparison, and is in the best position to comment on this. Not you.

See his cultural comparisons here. No one rivals it.

http://expatriateobservations.blogspot.com
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Postby Hero » Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:02 am

Winston wrote:Anyway, Ladislav is the master in culture comparison here, not you. He is the Obi-Wan Kenobi of culture comparison, and is in the best position to comment on this.


Help me, Obi-wan Kenobi... you're my only hope :lol:
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Postby anamericaninbangkok » Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:31 am

Winston wrote:
anamericaninbangkok wrote:Do you really think Americans are the only ones like this? C'mon, people are like this all over the world.


You need to travel more. People in Russia do not give fake smiles at all and hate the way Americans do it. Same with Eastern Europe. In Poland, people do not even use the greeting "How are you?" because they say that question is useless and pointless.

The Ukraine girl I went out with told me that she hated that in Colorado, every time someone asked "How are you?" she felt obligated to give a positive response.

Anyway, Ladislav is the master in culture comparison here, not you. He is the Obi-Wan Kenobi of culture comparison, and is in the best position to comment on this. Not you.

See his cultural comparisons here. No one rivals it.

http://expatriateobservations.blogspot.com


Rubbish Winston. You're talking about my needing to travel more? When was the last time you went anywhere other than the U.S. or the PI? I've traveled and still travel far more than you do. I just got back from Singapore and Cambodia and have several other upcoming trips, how about you?

I've been to Russia twice. I saw people who gave warm smiles and also forced smiles, especially in my business dealings there. I hung out there with Russians, Khazaks, and Uzbeks as well as two Thais. I see a lot of American bashing going on in this site now and very few people moving to be "Happier Abroad." As far as I know, you're not abroad now, are you? Are you ever going to make it over to Thailand?

Also, I'm proud to be an American. There are things I like and things I don't like. But I still love my country. When referring to American women, many have an arrogant, privileged attitude when they should be a bit more down to earth. Do you think women in most developed countries are unlike American women? I don't. Anytime women are empowered by their earning ability, they're going to feel like they have more of a choice in who they hook up with and who they spend their future with. This is why many foreigners end up with lower class of woman from Thailand, Russia, the PI, etc. Men don't like women earning or being empowered because it makes things more difficult for them. That's life. You can either deal with it in America or elsewhere, or you can move somewhere else and be "happier abroad." What is that old adage? "Nothing worth having comes easy?"

Frankly, I do not give a shit about who is the master, nor did I ever say I'm a master in cultural comparison. You're preaching to the choir and if you think Steve what's his name is an expert on global dating, I can only shake my head. As others on the board have done several times but you have failed to listen. Since he claims to nail "good girls" in Thailand in under an hour, then perhaps I could suggest you travel to Thailand and do what I suggested to him; walk around a mall, begin talking to a "good" Thai woman, and see if you can get her in bed in 30 minutes.

As far as I know, this is a forum for exchanging ideas. As far as I know, one does not have to be an Obi-Wan-Kenobi to comment here. Or do they? Or do I just need to only state ideas paralleling your own?

You've got a real hard-on for me Winston - especially when it comes to your "wondering why I'm an expert" on Thailand. For some reason this seems to bug you and I haven't got a clue why. It's on you though, not me. I've been all over SEA many, many times but I NEVER said I was an expert. I could give a shit. I've lived in Asia for nearly twenty years though Winston and I dare say that unless I'm a complete dimwit, which I'm not, I'm bound to learn, even if by osmosis.

One thing I've come to realize about you Winston is that if someone disagrees with your point of view, they are immediately the person with the problem. I don't think Americans are the only two-faced people in the world. That's my opinion, bottom line.
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Postby ladislav » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:54 am

Americans accuse Oriental peoples of being fake and two faced. I've heard the same description being meted out against the Japanese.

When I was in Thailand, I was with a Japanese person who complained to me about how fake the Thais were. I guess it boils down to being able to read people.

Adults act polite in public but if you are a good reader of smiles, you will distinguish a polite mask from a genuine smile. And many people would rather prefer a person who is forcing himself to look upbeat and pleasant to others while still being selfish than someone who looks dour and only smiles when there's a reason.

Btw, Arabs accuse the Jews of being fake, too.
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Postby Winston » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:07 am

AmericaninBangkok,
Maybe Steve has a charisma you don't have? He didn't sleep with them after knowing them for an hour. He built up online chemistry and webcam/phone chat first.

Either way, I find Steve R far MORE CREDIBLE than you. He makes sense and understands me and what he says is far more logical-sounding than what you say. You just make shallow points without depth or intellect.

Steve R is also above most guys here in that he will apologize and admit he was wrong. But most guys can't, even the guys here will never apologize and admit that they were wrong. Steve has made lots of rash decisions and later admitted that he was wrong and foolish when I called him out on it.

I agree with him that REAL MEN will admit when they are wrong. But most Western men, including the men on this forum, can't. In that sense, Steve is above most guys here.

I don't know how credible he is about Thailand, since remember, 100 percent of ALL MEN on earth will CLAIM to be honest and credible. So a man saying that he's honest and credible is nothing new. Not a single man in the world will say otherwise.

But I do find Steve's depth and insight and arguments to make a lot of sense. He is on the ball when it comes to truth and reality. That's my honest impression of him. I've had hours of long conversations with Steve, and he does seem very grounded in reality. He may have strong opinions, but I don't see any indication that he's in "la la land".

Your observations are far more shallow and superficial than Steve's or Ladislav's. You don't see the big picture and there isn't much logic in your points. No offense. That's just my honest opinion based on your posts.

You also sound like you are just arguing for the sake of arguing, without legit logical points. Anyone can argue. But to argue with sense and reasons is another matter.

Even if you have traveled a lot, still, you don't sound like you have much wisdom from your travel experiences. I'm on a deep wavelength, so I always have deep observations. I've learned a lot from my travels, and it's reflected in my writings. Maybe you aren't a deep person, so you can't relate to me. You also sometimes sound too politically correct. Making observations and comparisons does not seem to be your strong suit.
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Postby anamericaninbangkok » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:26 am

Winston wrote:AmericaninBangkok,
Maybe Steve has a charisma you don't have? He didn't sleep with them after knowing them for an hour. He built up online chemistry and webcam/phone chat first.

Either way, I find Steve R far MORE CREDIBLE than you. He makes sense and understands me and what he says is far more logical-sounding than what you say. You just make shallow points without depth or intellect.

Steve R is also above most guys here in that he will apologize and admit he was wrong. But most guys can't, even the guys here will never apologize and admit that they were wrong. Steve has made lots of rash decisions and later admitted that he was wrong and foolish when I called him out on it.

I agree with him that REAL MEN will admit when they are wrong. But most Western men, including the men on this forum, can't. In that sense, Steve is above most guys here.

I don't know how credible he is about Thailand, since remember, 100 percent of ALL MEN on earth will CLAIM to be honest and credible. So a man saying that he's honest and credible is nothing new. Not a single man in the world will say otherwise.

But I do find Steve's depth and insight and arguments to make a lot of sense. He is on the ball when it comes to truth and reality. That's my honest impression of him. I've had hours of long conversations with Steve, and he does seem very grounded in reality. He may have strong opinions, but I don't see any indication that he's in "la la land".

Your observations are far more shallow and superficial than Steve's or Ladislav's. You don't see the big picture and there isn't much logic in your points. No offense. That's just my honest opinion based on your posts.

You also sound like you are just arguing for the sake of arguing, without legit logical points. Anyone can argue. But to argue with sense and reasons is another matter.

Even if you have traveled a lot, still, you don't sound like you have much wisdom from your travel experiences. I'm on a deep wavelength, so I always have deep observations. I've learned a lot from my travels, and it's reflected in my writings. Maybe you aren't a deep person, so you can't relate to me. You also sometimes sound too politically correct. Making observations and comparisons does not seem to be your strong suit.


Steve this, Steve that. He said this, he said that. You sound like he's your girlfriend, seriously.

You don't travel anymore Winston. You know this is true. You haven't in many moons.

You can say what you want about someone having more charisma than I do, frankly I could give a shit. I have enough to not worry about being rejected by women.

It's funny how you fail to listen to people on this board who know far more about Thailand than "Steve." Many on this board think the guy is full of shit. Like I said, throw him in a situation where he's not set up with God knows what sort of women, and let's see what he can do. For all he knows, which is nil about Thailand, the girls could have been straight up sluts. He wouldn't be the first guy to be duped by some sweet little Thai girl, but I guess "His girls are different." Like I said in another post, he wouldn't know a decent Thai chick if she bit him on the a**. Charisma my a** Winston - if you were here, you would know that charisma is not something I lack pal. Come to Thailand, Singapore, Cambodia, even the PI...you can see for yourself.

BTW - no offense Kai and others as I am not referring to all women met online, but many here in Thailand are so frigging desperate to find a man they'll sleep with damn near anyone. They don't want sex to get in the way of a possible relationship where a man will take care of them. The problem I see, besides being needy, is that many have kids, many have boyfriends with no money, they're head cases, or they're scammers. Good on Steve for banging some chick in under an hour + chat time. Guarantee you she was no "good girl" like he has stated.

Here's the thing Winston - what you did many years ago, that's great. I always admired you for having the guts to go abroad and start this site and I was already a long-time expat. But now, you come off as bitter towards women and more focused on how bad things are as opposed to just going out and living. Everything I read that you write questions why women are one way or the other.

I dare say most men may like to talk to women and get them to laugh, but most WANT TO GET LAID TOO! How many of those Russians shown in your videos did you sleep with?! You were harmless to them, that's all. According to you, they were great women. I'd be shocked if you slept with five.

My life is pretty damn good and I'm Happier Abroad. I'm the poster boy for these two words. What percentage of the guys on this forum can say this Winston? I can think of a handful, that's it. Most people aren't in the position to split, don't have the balls, or can't pull the trigger.

Politically correct? Jesus H Christ Winston, I'm the least PC person you've ever not met!

Here's my strong suit Winston - going out AND DOING THINGS. I live abroad, I travel abroad, I am Happier Abroad. So what the f**k is your problem with me? Like I said, my ideas do not always parallel yours - that pisses you off. I think your idea of a seminar has potential but only an idiot would come to hear some guy tell them how bad things are in the U.S. People want solutions, not to be told how shitty their situation is.

Think about something - you were excited about how "Steve has a real way with Thai women, this girl was smiling and flirting with him." Big f***ing deal. I get half a dozen Thai women smiling at every single day - it's their culture to smile and flirt. Try getting the relationship to progress giggling and smiling and see how fast they tell you nope, not gonna do it.

Winston - you've become a legend in your mind. Instead, you might want to think, "What have you done lately?"
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Postby zboy1 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:17 am

I have to side with Americaninbangkok on this one...He is actually "Happierabroad" much more so than Winston or Steve, and has a lot of experience overseas and with traveling abroad. And the fact that he posts some pretty accurate observations of Thailand and the lifestyle there--make me believe him much more so than a lot of other posters on the forum...
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Postby zboy1 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:19 am

But I do disagree with Americaninbangkok on his positive views on the United States. But that's his opinion and I respect it.
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Postby Banano » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:38 am

AMin BKK
"I dare say most men may like to talk to women and get them to laugh, but most WANT TO GET LAID TOO! How many of those Russians shown in your videos did you sleep with?! You were harmless to them, that's all. According to you, they were great women. I'd be shocked if you slept with five."


I Think Winston didn't bang any non-pro Russian woman, he only had some success with low end Filipinas and that's only bc they were poor and in need of $$. I travelled all SEA and I can tell you that quality girls are not easy to get.

Steve R has no idea what he is talking about, I met many expats in TH and no one would believe his claims unless guy looks like Brad Pitt.
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Postby publicduende » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:03 am

Winston wrote:You need to travel more. People in Russia do not give fake smiles at all and hate the way Americans do it. Same with Eastern Europe. In Poland, people do not even use the greeting "How are you?" because they say that question is useless and pointless.


People in Russia don't smile and laugh unless genuinely feeling happy or entertained. I wouldn't say that is the case everywhere in Eastern Europe. I have a few Lithuanian friends (and one of my new colleagues is Lithuanian) and they're much more jovial than Russians, and they don't fake. What they wouldn't do, though, is mingle with people they don't like unless forced to. And in the latter case, they just stay quiet.
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Postby Banano » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:56 am

Germans don't smile for no reason, its anglo thing
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