at least winston's son won't be like this guy, picked on all his life
but he could be the bully who gets his a** kicked
You just never know about how a child will end up in their school's social pecking order.
It's just a very vicious environment. If Angelo grows to be on the larger side compared to his peers...and considering the way he's raised...
it is possible or even very likely that he would end up being the bully. It's usually the larger bullying the smaller.
In that video, the small kid only had the courage to do what he did because he thought the other larger bullies egged him on and had his back.
Kid's are stupid.
I was picked on alot when i was a child myself...elementary school. I was taught not to fight. I was bullied.
I told my parents. My parents told me "what the f is wrong with you?" My parents told me to fight back. I fought back. I got in trouble with the
principal. My parents bitched me out and told me never to fight again (whipped me til i bled).
I stopped fighting. I got bullied again. This continued until late middle school when i found myself to be one of the physically strongest kids.
Never had to fight. Word got around and the bullying stopped.
That's what i called shit parenting. Mixed messages. I will ALWAYS remember that about my parents. And i HATED them for it.
And i will always make sure i never do the same to my child/children. My kid will know how to fight because i will start teaching him MMA early
And he won't be doing the bullying because he'll know that a beatdown is waiting for him at home if he does.
Too many parents only care about not having to deal with messy problems themselves.
It was fine as long as they didn't hear anything about it and the school didn't complain.
My message to the parents out there *cough* Winston *cough*: Take part in your kids education. Don't ignore what's going on and do what you can. Don't let your kid become a bully and get bodyslammed
When he gets older and has developed some truly nasty habits/personality, you will regret it. Even more so if those traits last for his entire life.
Imagine Angelo being 7 years old...no respect for his old man...and spitting on you when he feels like it. Don't complain about it. Do something about it while you still can.
EDIT: Man...tired and zoned out right now. Read my own post and realized it sounds like a sermon. I hate preachy shit and unsolicited advice. Ignore my post if you feel like bodyslamming me Winston.
Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:18 am
swincor
Joined: 11 Oct 2010
Posts: 232
jamesbond wrote:
Hitting children in the face is child abuse plain and simple. Any parent who hit's their kid (other than on the butt) is committing a crime! I think any adult who abuses children should be put in prison and not have the right to see their child ever again.
Even if a child hit's you, that does not give you the right to hit them back!
In America child abuse is a felony, I don't know about the laws in the Philippines but child abuse is wrong plain and simple!
This is virtually indistinguishable from what a feminist would say. Just substitute the word "woman" in place of "child" above.
The ability of men to physically intimidate women in the past kept a lot of those women in check. That's why one of the biggest feminist mantras is: "There is never an excuse for violence against women."
Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:38 am
Winston Site Admin
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 13817
swincor__ wrote:
jamesbond wrote:
Hitting children in the face is child abuse plain and simple. Any parent who hit's their kid (other than on the butt) is committing a crime! I think any adult who abuses children should be put in prison and not have the right to see their child ever again.
Even if a child hit's you, that does not give you the right to hit them back!
In America child abuse is a felony, I don't know about the laws in the Philippines but child abuse is wrong plain and simple!
This is virtually indistinguishable from what a feminist would say. Just substitute the word "woman" in place of "child" above.
The ability of men to physically intimidate women in the past kept a lot of those women in check. That's why one of the biggest feminist mantras is: "There is never an excuse for violence against women."
For once, I agree with Swincor. That's what a politically correct stupid feminist would say. In truth, slapping someone in the face with an open palm NEVER damages or injures anyone. Many parents slap their kids in the face. It NEVER really hurts them, just shocks them, and is effective. Nothing wrong with that as long as it's not excessive. Parents say that it does the trick. But punching with closed fists is another matter.
NEVER EVER claim that one particular group, even women and children, is unaccountable and can do whatever they like and get away with it and never get punished for it. That is a recipe for disaster.
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:53 am
Winston Site Admin
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 13817
Repatriate,
The point with the Bruce Lee analogy is that a man is remembered by his legacy, not by the children he raised. Therefore, it is not true that a man's children are more "interesting" than his passions and hobbies are. I have no idea where you got that from.
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:12 am
momopi
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 3758
Location: Orange County, California
swincor__ wrote:
jamesbond wrote:
Hitting children in the face is child abuse plain and simple. Any parent who hit's their kid (other than on the butt) is committing a crime! I think any adult who abuses children should be put in prison and not have the right to see their child ever again.
Even if a child hit's you, that does not give you the right to hit them back!
In America child abuse is a felony, I don't know about the laws in the Philippines but child abuse is wrong plain and simple!
This is virtually indistinguishable from what a feminist would say. Just substitute the word "woman" in place of "child" above.
The ability of men to physically intimidate women in the past kept a lot of those women in check. That's why one of the biggest feminist mantras is: "There is never an excuse for violence against women."
I have a very simple rule with my GF's: I don't hit her, and she doesn't hit me. If she breaks the rule, I walk. There will be no second chances.
If you have to resort to physical intimation to maintain a relationship, it's probably a good time to dump the girl and get a new GF. If you desire peace and harmony in your relationship, seek out a girl from a good family with proper behavior, where the father shows kindness and the son shows filial piety, the elder sibling shows gentility and the younger shows humility, & the husband shows benevolence and the wife listens. Pay attention to not only her family but also the company (friends) that she keeps. Clean cloths tend to get dirty when you're standing near a gutter, and it's better to not marry than to marry someone who will dirty your entire wardrobe.
Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:18 pm
Jackal
Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 1149
Location: Hungary
Winston wrote:
For once, I agree with Swincor. That's what a politically correct stupid feminist would say. In truth, slapping someone in the face with an open palm NEVER damages or injures anyone. Many parents slap their kids in the face. It NEVER really hurts them, just shocks them, and is effective. Nothing wrong with that as long as it's not excessive. Parents say that it does the trick. But punching with closed fists is another matter.
That might be true most of the time, but if you're angry enough and the child is small enough, it is possible that you could do some serious damage by hitting them on the head or face, which is why I would recommend that you NEVER hit them there. A child's bones (and therefore, skull) are still soft and developing and can be damaged easily. The a** and the backs of the legs are much safer targets, if it comes to that.
LinuxOnly wrote:
the kids problem is that he has a selfish, dead-beat, chronic masturbater, stingy with his money, gone half the time.. father
From the small bit I've read on this forum, this is the impression I get as well. Winston, if this is an incorrect analysis, then please explain why.
Winston, kids are astute observers of human behavior. Perhaps if he sees you being kind to other people for nonsexual purposes, he might eventually imitate you. But kids can tell easily when you're faking it, so it has to be sincere. How can he learn empathy when you don't seem to display any?
Try doing at least one kind thing for another person every day without expecting anything in return. It might slowly turn you into a nicer person. Only thinking about yourself is a downward spiral which results in unhappiness.
However, I can sympathize with you because I dislike small children myself and I can't say that I'd do too much better. This is the reason I don't want kids.
Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:27 pm
swincor
Joined: 11 Oct 2010
Posts: 232
Re: My son's behavior is like a monster from hell, what to d
Winston wrote:
Any suggestions for dealing with this "monster from hell" whose personality is total shit?
Winston,
to be honest, your request for advice doesn't make much sense at all. You act as though you have a problem demanding serious attention.
What exactly do you care if your son behaves like a monster from hell? By your own admission, you're not interested in devoting your attention to your child. Your personal interests come first before your own kid. And whenever you don't feel like dealing with your son, you bail -- for 6+ months out of the year, relaxing in Taiwan. Obviously you have the freedom not to be around to raise him or put up with his bad behavior.
So given the freedom you enjoy to be an inattentive, indifferent parent who can bail whenever he feels like it -- a situation a divorced husband in America paying alimony and child support could only dream of having -- what exactly are you complaining about?
Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:38 am
DaRick
Joined: 03 Aug 2010
Posts: 296
Location: Brisbane, Queensland, AUS
Winston, if it is any consolation, I was apparently quite a noisy toddler yet I quietened down considerably as I got older. Angelo may yet do the same.
I would personally be around far more often to raise him, though.
Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:47 am
Winston Site Admin
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 13817
Yesterday when I went to my doctor, I told her about my son's monstrous behavior. She said that he may have autism or ADHD and said that I should have a pediatrician evaluate him for it before it worsens. WTF? How come such things didn't exist in the past, only in the present? Don't doctors consider that? Such things seem to be man-made, not natural.
Does ADHD really exist? Should I trust a pediatrician's judgment in this area? Or are they probably brainwashed about it?
"It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:23 am
keius
Joined: 17 Jun 2010
Posts: 260
It's my own belief that ADHD is just another name for sh*t behavior. Nowadays, everything needs a label/excuse.
I simply don't buy into that junk. It's a goddamn conspiracy i tell you!!!
btw, your son doesn't sound like he's got autism. He's just spoiled silly.
The majority of Chinese children his age, that i've seen raised in China(little emperors) act much like your Angelo...many of them much worse.
I have serious doubts that 90% of the children in China have ADHD.
"ADHD is a problem with inattentiveness, over-activity, impulsivity, or a combination. For these problems to be diagnosed as ADHD, they must be out of the normal range for a child's age and development."
"Too often, difficult children are incorrectly labeled with ADHD"
A mis/diagnosis will typically result in medication (stimulants) being prescribed. Bad idea in my book.
Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:44 am
odbo
Joined: 06 Jan 2011
Posts: 2182
Winston wrote:
Yesterday when I went to my doctor, I told her about my son's monstrous behavior. She said that he may have autism or ADHD and said that I should have a pediatrician evaluate him for it before it worsens. WTF? How come such things didn't exist in the past, only in the present? Don't doctors consider that? Such things seem to be man-made, not natural.
Does ADHD really exist? Should I trust a pediatrician's judgment in this area? Or are they probably brainwashed about it?
I as well as my male friends with O-blood type have severe ADD/ADHD. Which shows it is largely diet related. O is the original blood type, we probably need the diet of hunters & gatherers. Food allergies to wheat, milk, etc cause sloppy cognitive function and processed foods will make anyone almost dysfunctional. It definitely exists but psychiatry is complete pseudo-science and the "disorder" is used by the powers at be as an excuse to drug young boys (whether they even have it or not) and basically f**k them up for life. Boys need physical activity and schools don't allow enough of it. They're often misdiagnosed as ADD, as are boys who show they free-thinkers and not complete zombies, listening to the teacher's word like it came from god. I don't want to get too into this but in short, NEVER GIVE HIM ANY MEDICATION. No matter what some pharma whore (doctor) tells you. Autism is another disorder which actually exists but is exploited to misdiagnose and lobotomize a large number of boys.
As far as I'm concerned ADD is not a disorder, it's more like a cursed blessing or something.. at worse a symptom of being fed garbage both figuratively and literally. ADD people can do what others cannot, (like I can work for 3 days straight no sleep) but at the same time they can never truly be calm. Some of the most successful people in the world are ADD and they wouldn't be if they were "normal".
Try the one-meal a day regiment. Don't feed him during the day or very little snacks of fruits or nuts when he's having trouble adjusting, (avoid breakfast especially), and have a big meal at dinner time. Give him the best food available and don't worry about him getting fat or some bullshit. And children could use red meat too, but hopefully at least 50% of the meal is raw, as in washed vegetables instead of steamed, fried, etc.
I'll PM you more suggestions.
Honestly, Winston, some people on this planet just shouldn't have kids. I sincerely believe that in a better world where smarter people were running the show, you would have been a prime candidate marked for sterilization. It would have been good not only for you personally, but also for US and Filipino society as well.
hey...it's never too late! Maybe a couple of mad relatives will do it with bolos on some backstreet...tad tad
Why would you run a site like this and admit to being a child abusing fuckwit?
Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:44 am
Truthville
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
Posts: 250
All I can say is:
Amen globetrotter amen!
Fathers are seen as expendable in Western society. It makes it hard for a man to have some PRIDE in being a father. What Winston does or doesn't do perhaps isn't the point. The point, as I told him, could be:
STOP SHARING DETAILS OF YOUR PERSONAL LIFE AND/OR ASKING FOR ADVICE ABOUT PROBLEMS THAT YOU SHOULD:
A)Already know the answer to.
B)You aren't prepared to follow through with.
C)Get defensive and whiny when people question your motives.
TruthVille
TruthVille
Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:28 am
The_Adventurer
Joined: 23 Aug 2007
Posts: 594
IN the old days, if you tore up the neighbor's bushes, the neighbor beat your a**, and then took you home and told your parents and you got beat again! Can't find that in America anymore.
In many Asian countries I have been to, parents slap bad kids upside the head. Until recently, even teachers could beat bad students in schools in Japan. Now look at the difference in societies of these places versus America, where kids are running the streets doing all kinds of evil.
I got my a** beat all the time as a kid, and I turned out fine. I can't say the same for many of my peers, some from single parent homes even, who ended up in jail or dead. Every gf I have had since being out here says her mother, or both parents, beat her when she acted up, even when they were grown.
Discipline is sorely lacking in todays western young people, and making any kind of punishment into "child abuse" is ruining society. I'm not talking about punching kids in the face with a closed fist, mind you, but America's past and current trends in what I have seen where I have traveled in Asia says that a good a** whooping does the trick.
I am all in favor of capital punishment in schools!
(yes that's a joke)
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:04 am
Winston Site Admin
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 13817
Globetrotter's shithead remakes and Outwest's death threats
Globetrotter,
f**k you shithead. I can do whatever I want with my life. Ever hear of freedom? What if I don't think the kid is worth sacrificing the rest of my life to take care of? To be a "good father" means to give up the remaining years of your life for him, just so you can be considered "a good father". Doesn't seem like it's worth it. You are saying this because of what society teaches. I am just telling the truth. I may not feel like I want to give up my life for my kid. He may not be worth it.
Who says that he will grow up to have a great life either way? It's his life. I will help support him. But I don't believe that I should give up my life just cause you and society says so. f**k you shithead.
Furthermore, your logic makes no sense. Lots of kids grow up without dads here, but they don't become monsters. Behavior like that is inherent. I've seen other articles online that say the same thing from people experiencing the same thing.
Sorry but I have a temper and if someone hits me, I hit them back. That's the way it is. When you are in a rage, you don't consider such things as "He's only a child".
I already explained in a thread here about why I can't live in the RP long term. Did you read it? Did you consider that? If so, then why do you suggest I live in the RP with my son long term in a dirty toxic polluted air that I don't belong in?
I gotta do what's best for me too, you dumbass. Stop lying about me too.
f**k you you God damn f***ing piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Outwest,
You know, clear insanity is grounds for banning from this forum. Your sick notion that a foreign could get assassinated here just for being a deadbeat dad is sick and insane and twisted. Are you threatening murder? If so, I will expose and report you to the police you f***ing sicko.
Lots of guys are deadbeat dads. But they don't get assassinated for that. They get killed for money or some other reason. But not that.
You are treading a thin line here in suggesting that I get assassinated. I ought to ban you for being a f***ing psycho and expose you too.
You're lucky you aren't saying these things to my face... Threatening murder is something I take quite seriously.
I'm sorry, but not everyone is cut out to be a father. So trying to punish me for it is pointless. I can't change who I am. All I ask for is the right to be left alone, which I have a right to do.
Just don't piss me off. I'm warning you. I return dickhead behavior very harshly. That is something I don't tolerate. I MEAN IT GUYS! YOU ARE WARNED!
For now, I'm removing your posts here that are very obstructive and sick.
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