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Why don't women fight against feminism?

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Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby Johnny1975 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:30 am


Why don't you fight against feminism? I suppose the question applies to men too, but I'm intrigued as to why women don't usually say anything.
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby BellaRuth » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:06 am


The best way to fight it is to ignore it exists and go about your everyday lives.

Women aren't really fighters in the sense that they actually 'attack'. We'd fight more, I think, by personal resistance.

Those who dislike feminism just don't apply it to themselves. They do what they think is feminine instead. They might go 'vintage' or become interested in traditional lifestyles. They might get into baking, knitting, or something that's incredibly 'uncool' for feminists. That's their way of sticking up the middle finger.
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby Winston » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:11 am


Isn't that sort of an oxymoron? A truly feminine woman doesn't "fight" like a warrior. She uses subtlety, and is more passive than a masculine woman. So you can't expect a really feminine woman to "fight" otherwise she wouldn't be that feminine right? lol
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby NinjaPuppy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:12 pm


Winston wrote:Isn't that sort of an oxymoron? A truly feminine woman doesn't "fight" like a warrior. She uses subtlety, and is more passive than a masculine woman. So you can't expect a really feminine woman to "fight" otherwise she wouldn't be that feminine right? lol

Winston- There's a time and a place for being feminine. It no longer seems to fly in business or anywhere other than our personal life.

It' can be difficult to separate the areas where it's appreciated and where it's totally inappropriate. BellaRuth pretty much nailed it with her response:
Women aren't really fighters in the sense that they actually 'attack'. We'd fight more, I think, by personal resistance.

What we women don't like, we ignore. What we do like, we advocate. We do in our own way "attack". We just do it with pen and paper or volunteer support for the opposition of the things we dislike.
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby Johnny1975 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:14 pm


I guess what I meant by fighting was, anything that undermines feminism. Ignoring it is obviously good, but it's really not enough.
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby NinjaPuppy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:19 pm


Here's the definition of feminism as per Wikipedia:
Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment.

From this definition, why would any woman want to fight this?
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby Johnny1975 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:29 am


Are you a feminist?
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby NinjaPuppy » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:57 am


Johnny1975 wrote:Are you a feminist?

If you are asking if I advocate being paid the same amount for doing the exact same job as a man, or advocate that women can go for a higher education or run for a political office, then "yes", I guess you would label me a feminist by that definition.

Are you asking if I advocate some of those extreme "power to women" movements, then "no", I am not a feminist.

I believe that a woman's place is in the house.... and the Senate. If women want to have it both ways (career and family) then she has to put in the time and the effort to achieve an acceptable balance with those desires. We can't have it all without the work necessary to make it happen.

In my personal experience I've held a very successful career as well as in my early years done the submissive housewife role. I couldn't find a way to properly balance the two at the same time. I did what I had to do at different times.
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby Renata » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:13 am


Winston wrote:Isn't that sort of an oxymoron? A truly feminine woman doesn't "fight" like a warrior. She uses subtlety, and is more passive than a masculine woman. So you can't expect a really feminine woman to "fight" otherwise she wouldn't be that feminine right? lol


I didn't grow up with feminism, nor have I ever lived in a country with feminism. I think being feminine is natural. I'm a woman so I'm feminine right :mrgreen: ...

I've noticed the guys on the forum all have differnt views of what feminine is. I remeber reading one post that said, a feminine girl should be traditional & submissive. Then I said but I'm not either of those :shock: , but I'm not the dominant type either. I've roughed it by sleeping outdoors a few times, I've been branded a risk-taker by my parents, but I enjoy things like cooking because I like to eat well & nutriton is important to me. I want to die looking young :lol: I enjoy beautifying & pampering myself. My husband knows if I announce I'm going into the bathroom, he's not going to see me until an hour or two later. I think I can't be defined by feminine' alone I'm a whole lot of things.

Fighting isn't lady-like, but I know if i have to fight to protect myself I will, or to protect my family I will ... I may not come out alive but I will do it.
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby Renata » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:29 am


Johnny1975 wrote:Why don't you fight against feminism? I suppose the question applies to men too, but I'm intrigued as to why women don't usually say anything.


Johnny I think the best way to fight Feminism is to encourage women that it's not a way of life by proving how bad femininsm is & how it's destructive. By starting a movement of the sort, .. maybe this forum is it ?? We are all level headed ladies that are just real women that enjoy the world & live life just as it was intended.

Men fight feminism all the time but never get through to them. It's time to stop fighting, because I've seen several videos where the feminists get angry ... it's like they get stronger & band together & feed off of the fighting. They bask in a good fight, kind of like Mongols & Vikings.
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby Johnny1975 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:36 am


Renata wrote:
Johnny1975 wrote:Why don't you fight against feminism? I suppose the question applies to men too, but I'm intrigued as to why women don't usually say anything.


Johnny I think the best way to fight Feminism is to encourage women that it's not a way of life by proving how bad femininsm is & how it's destructive. By starting a movement of the sort, .. maybe this forum is it ?? We are all level headed ladies that are just real women that enjoy the world & live life just as it was intended.

Men fight feminism all the time but never get through to them. It's time to stop fighting, because I've seen several videos where the feminists get angry ... it's like they get stronger & band together & feed off of the fighting. They bask in a good fight, kind of like Mongols & Vikings.


Yes all of that is true. Really, when I say fight, I just mean anything that undermines it. That includes ignoring it and doing something else.
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby curious1234 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:05 am


There are many different types and shades of feminism. Why does everyone associate feminism with 'an ugly looking masculine not feminine woman hating men willing to fight'? Bullocks!

A feminist can maintain her femininity, love men and be emotionally attractive, but she's wise. She won't let men disrespect her or mistreat her. She will not tolerate her man cheating on her. She can still cook for her man, look after children, respect her husband, and so on. She is sweet and soft on the outside, but hard on the inside. She is strong, but it doesn't mean she doesn't need men in her life. She will gladly follow her man (if he's wise), but she will not let him control her because he should trust her.

WHy do men use feminism? To marginalise, manipulate women and ridicule them so that can lead better lives convenient for them. What about chauvinism? Why don't we hear so many women talk about it? Because we have better things to do.

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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby Sunshine » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:24 am


http://oxforddictionaries.com/definitio ... h/feminism

It's not about being a strong woman, all women worth their salt should be as you just described. A feminist is someone who fights for total equality for women. The right to work in a factory, or as a mechanic. The right to wear a business suit and be a CEO. The right for girls to play rugby and other full contact sports in school. To not have to be criticized for not wearing makeup or making their hair all pretty while dressing "fashionably". To basically BE a man in all ways but gender. This is what feminism is about.
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby curious1234 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:11 am


We all know what feminism is about. It is about fighting for equality, absolutely, but again, hmmm...I was talking about something different.... I was talking about the popular perception of feminists held by 'short-sighted' people, not what feminism is.
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Re: Why don't women fight against feminism?

Postby Sunshine » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:37 pm


So you say in one post that there are many types and shades of it, then later agree with me that there is only one meaning... you're fun to listen to. I like you a lot, lady.
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