Why this forum?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:57 pm
To the women here who didn't join the main forum, or who did but don't post there, or don't post there any more, why?
Since the start I've considered it a great insult that a separate forum should be created for women. The main message of the main forum is that western women are mostly fucked up. It's not that all western women are that way, but mostly they are. That's why we joined it and that's what we talk about most of the time.
There's a lot of anger there, sure, and sometimes that spills over into squabbles with women who join, but you have to understand that sometimes feminists and other scum like to join such forums for a laugh, and we are well aware of that. Why should we trust every woman who joins? How do we know know you're for real? This is the internet, we don't know who is who or who is genuine.
And sometimes the negative feelings that some of the guys have cause them to be antagonistic towards any woman who joins. It's just a gut reaction. They don't pause to think and they're reluctant to give any woman a chance. Some of them are very skeptical. I don't think it's right but it's understandable. But that's the environment, that's how it is.
However, there's no reason for any good, decent woman (western or not) to be afraid of taking part in the main forum. The way I see it, if a woman joins, and she has a problem with the huge amount of criticism that the guys have of feminism, western culture, or any of that stuff, she most probably isn't the real deal. Any woman who describes herself as a feminist, in any sense whatsoever, and / or doesn't concede to our message, and admit that we are right, such a female is not with us, she's a fake. And that goes for any woman who displays any sarcasm, or attempts at shaming. It's a dead giveaway.
Winston should get tough with members of the main forum, and try to control things a bit when a woman joins. But at the same time he should let things play out however they may, without letting it get out of control. There are a few numbskulls over there but it's not that bad. Any woman who gets our message should be willing and able to handle that.
The reason why I consider it an insult that this forum even exists is because it gives the message that the members of the main forum are barbarians, and women should be protected against them, by having a shelter, in the form of their own forum, and if anyone doesn't like it they don't have to post here, which totally misses the point.
My opinion is that most of you women here are not the real deal. I'm highly skeptical. And Winston is a fool if he really thinks that most or all of you are genuine. It's just my opinion, but for what it's worth, I think Winston should get rid of almost all the women here so far, invite only non western women, and basically start this thing all over again.
If women don't feel welcome at the other forum, and if men don't feel welcome here, then something is definitely wrong. I'm sure anyone can figure that out.
So back to my main question. If you know about the other forum, and you don't post there, why is that? Don't you like us? Do you think we're sexists? Do you think we're bald, bitter, and living in our mum's basements? If you get where we're coming from when it comes to the vast majority of western women, why aren't you there joining in? When we criticise and insult them like the dogs that they are, why aren't you with us, showing your support?
Joining a pink forum and talking about fairies and unicorns isn't the same as going on the main forum and standing up and saying "Yes, guys, I get it. I agree with all of your criticisms and I feel embarrassed to call myself a western woman because the majority are scum and give us good ones a bad name". This is why the guys at the main forum don't trust you, and it's why hardly any of them have joined.
Since the start I've considered it a great insult that a separate forum should be created for women. The main message of the main forum is that western women are mostly fucked up. It's not that all western women are that way, but mostly they are. That's why we joined it and that's what we talk about most of the time.
There's a lot of anger there, sure, and sometimes that spills over into squabbles with women who join, but you have to understand that sometimes feminists and other scum like to join such forums for a laugh, and we are well aware of that. Why should we trust every woman who joins? How do we know know you're for real? This is the internet, we don't know who is who or who is genuine.
And sometimes the negative feelings that some of the guys have cause them to be antagonistic towards any woman who joins. It's just a gut reaction. They don't pause to think and they're reluctant to give any woman a chance. Some of them are very skeptical. I don't think it's right but it's understandable. But that's the environment, that's how it is.
However, there's no reason for any good, decent woman (western or not) to be afraid of taking part in the main forum. The way I see it, if a woman joins, and she has a problem with the huge amount of criticism that the guys have of feminism, western culture, or any of that stuff, she most probably isn't the real deal. Any woman who describes herself as a feminist, in any sense whatsoever, and / or doesn't concede to our message, and admit that we are right, such a female is not with us, she's a fake. And that goes for any woman who displays any sarcasm, or attempts at shaming. It's a dead giveaway.
Winston should get tough with members of the main forum, and try to control things a bit when a woman joins. But at the same time he should let things play out however they may, without letting it get out of control. There are a few numbskulls over there but it's not that bad. Any woman who gets our message should be willing and able to handle that.
The reason why I consider it an insult that this forum even exists is because it gives the message that the members of the main forum are barbarians, and women should be protected against them, by having a shelter, in the form of their own forum, and if anyone doesn't like it they don't have to post here, which totally misses the point.
My opinion is that most of you women here are not the real deal. I'm highly skeptical. And Winston is a fool if he really thinks that most or all of you are genuine. It's just my opinion, but for what it's worth, I think Winston should get rid of almost all the women here so far, invite only non western women, and basically start this thing all over again.
If women don't feel welcome at the other forum, and if men don't feel welcome here, then something is definitely wrong. I'm sure anyone can figure that out.
So back to my main question. If you know about the other forum, and you don't post there, why is that? Don't you like us? Do you think we're sexists? Do you think we're bald, bitter, and living in our mum's basements? If you get where we're coming from when it comes to the vast majority of western women, why aren't you there joining in? When we criticise and insult them like the dogs that they are, why aren't you with us, showing your support?
Joining a pink forum and talking about fairies and unicorns isn't the same as going on the main forum and standing up and saying "Yes, guys, I get it. I agree with all of your criticisms and I feel embarrassed to call myself a western woman because the majority are scum and give us good ones a bad name". This is why the guys at the main forum don't trust you, and it's why hardly any of them have joined.