Nate,
One more thing. It's kind of wimpy for you to wanna leave this forum just cause I chewed you out. You act tough, but when the heat is on, you bail.

You say I'm negative, and I say you're negative. But the difference is this:

You throw your negativity/criticism at the TRUTH that I shell out, while I throw my negativity/criticism at the PROPAGANDA and MIND CONTROL that society imposes upon me. Therefore, I am doing it for a just cause, while you are not, you are doing it AGAINST truth.

I'm afraid that doesn't say very good about you dude.


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"The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." - H. L. Mencken

"Just look at us. Everything is backwards. Everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religion destroys spirituality." - Michael Ellner

"The greatest awakening I underwent in my travels is that nations in reality are the exact opposite of how they are depicted in the media." - Ladislav

To Nate and all:

Please remember that we are here to UPLIFT people, help them, and liberate their minds and lives from suffering.

Bringing others down or undermining them or focusing on their weaknesses does not accomplish that.

If I had a file on Nate or anyone here, with every detail of their life in it, I'm sure I could find skeletons in everyone's closet and damaging things to use against them and undermine them, and put them in the worst light. Anyone can focus on someone else's weakness, inflate them, and try to undermine them.

BUT WHAT GOOD WOULD THAT DO?! What good would come out of that?!

Think about it.

I hope people like Nate wake up and understand who our REAL enemies are. They are the ones who are oppressing us, keeping people in suffering and slavery, under lies and propaganda and mind conrol.

Like Dano said, my essay was not really negative. Rather, it EXPOSED things that were ALREADY negative that were being cloaked/disguised as something positive. I was simply unveiling the delusions that people in America are under. I did NOT do that out of bitterness for my life.

People like Nate divide us, set us against each other, and weaken us. That's not what we are here to do. We are here to uplift people and liberate them, so they will know their choices in life.

As I've always said, no man can tell another what to do. We can only plant seeds and help awaken others to their true calling, whatever that may be. Or make intelligent suggestions to them, to help them find their answers. Not judging or labeling them.

So let's keep that in mind and try to avoid this kind of thing in the future.

That being said, I apologize for my outburst earlier, and will remove the post where I did that.

I hope people like Nate and Swincor will think about the long term consequences and spiritual effects of what they do next time.


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"The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." - H. L. Mencken

"Just look at us. Everything is backwards. Everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religion destroys spirituality." - Michael Ellner

"The greatest awakening I underwent in my travels is that nations in reality are the exact opposite of how they are depicted in the media." - Ladislav

Check out these GREAT responses to my essay on the Zeitgeist forum!

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=231&id=278482

- “A masterpiece, you've truly outdid yourself this time! It's all there, everything gathered in a great paper. I'm definetly going to reread it over and over, so that it will be memorized. It's all truth, there are also a few other good people to listen to. I've recently found him yesterday, he is a really awesome individual. His name is Alex Collier, he talks about being in contact with extra terrestrials, but that isn't his only concern. It's us as individuals, how we need to break free and look at the world around us, his talks, lectures, and interviews are incredibly inspiring, one thing I will never forget. "Why do you have to pay... to live on a planet you where born on?" That will stick with me forever, what the "Aliens" preach is really astounding, what he says he was told. I am skeptical, but the morals that he preaches are inspiring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR46QjXjLH0

But yeah, everything you stated in this article is mind blowing. It will open everyones eyes, when they truly apply and question their lives. I think this is a definite must read! I'm going to get links to your site, and save them. It will hopefully change peoples perceptions.

Mind if I use some of these things in a Presentation video? It's a video me and a couple friends are going to put together for kids at our school. Were going to talk about Social Division, Education, Money, The current future of humanity, and the solutions. (The Venus Project)

Thanks for posting this, I still don't know why people don't post! D;

Great job, you should really venture into making videos about this stuff! Like what Peter did with Zeitgeist! Yeah, just a idea. Great job, and keep up the good work!”

- “Very good read, though I must honestly say I felt like I was re-reading my own thoughts, which is probably not a bad thing. It can be very hard once you break out of the hive mentality to try to fit into our sick society. I have felt so much isolation because of it. Most of my old friends think I am crazy and my family tends to look the other way when I try to discuss things like you wrote. That is the curse of being a free thinker I suppose, or blessing depending on your point of view. Before I "woke up" if you will, I had many more friends and much better appreciation from my family. Then again, I was living in almost total oblivion.
I have been out of work for well over a year and honestly I have no desire to return to the workforce. I am not even so sure I want to finish going to college. Hell, I can't pay for it anyway. So many people seem to think that life is all about working, going to school, getting married, and having kids to do the same exact thing; just pumping out more units. It is so sad. Life is about BEING, not doing.
To greater society I am a loser and a piece of shit, but to me I am a beautiful being of light just like everyone else. We have the power within us to create positive holistic change in the world. I believe that although we do need to be AWARE of the more negative ways of our current society, we need to focus on the positive, on love and the creative power of our consciousness if we are to make the change happen. For the longest time I thought that getting a job was the first and only first step I could take to being successful. Now, in the wake of economic collapse, getting a job will not be an option. We must all free ourselves of this materialistic prison cell and remember who we truly are.
So, good essay, as you can see it inspired me. ”


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"The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." - H. L. Mencken

"Just look at us. Everything is backwards. Everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religion destroys spirituality." - Michael Ellner

"The greatest awakening I underwent in my travels is that nations in reality are the exact opposite of how they are depicted in the media." - Ladislav

swincor_ wrote:

Are you really this much of an idiot??

How about you take the advice I just gave you, leave your miserable situation in Taiwan, and find a country better suited to you?

What the fuck is your problem? Don't tell me what to do! How do you know I'm not doing something important in Taiwan? How do you know I'm not dating anyone? If I was, I wouldn't post about it here, else my girl in the Phils would see it. Duh!

Who the fuck are you to tell me what to do? I'll go somewhere when it's time. What business of it is yours anyway? God you are so fucking stupid.

See my warning to you in the Announcement board.

Besides, this thread is not the topic for posting about me in Taiwan. There are other threads for that. Please stay on topic here!


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"The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." - H. L. Mencken

"Just look at us. Everything is backwards. Everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religion destroys spirituality." - Michael Ellner

"The greatest awakening I underwent in my travels is that nations in reality are the exact opposite of how they are depicted in the media." - Ladislav

I thought your essay was well written and thought out, I'll skip the details why. If you want to make it stronger I would recommend adding references to strengthen your arguments since people over a certain education level like to see other forms of proof of what you say, rather than just you own conjecture of facts.

There are many people who don't really understand what you are truly saying here and may experience your writings as an attack upon themselves (subconsciously) because they don't feel or see things the same way as you do about American culture. Perhaps their unconscious self does, but their conscious self does not. Thus, a constant conflict of wills erupting within. If they are commonly influenced by external factors rather than internal than they will generally still behave like automatons and tow the line, although their soul may be begging for some kind of release throughout their natural born lives, but will never consciously explore realms that completely challenge their current orthodox way of thinking and doing.

Yes, America is still much better to live in than most places around the world but it still has a lot of fucked up conventional social rules and if you don't fit in with them you either get labeled a loser, loner, pervert, racist, antisocial, weirdo, etc. Sometimes one can even be arrested if you don't know how to behave within the accepted social norms of America while in a public place, litigation going overboard nowadays over there...


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"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor and stoic philosopher, 121-180 A.D.

"Men have been taught that it is a virtue to agree with others. But the creator is the man who disagrees. Men have been taught that it is a virtue to swim with the current. But the creator is the man who goes against the current. Men have been taught that it is a virtue to stand together. But the creator is the man who stands alone." Ayn Rand

All of this shit is pointless.

Any real info?

Ex.:

Xi'an, Shannxi, China is crawling with 20-somethings and young women in town for the summer earning money. If you are a young guy (under 35 or look to be under 35) it's like shooting fish in a barrel. Girls everywhere, many speak English due to the large local tourism industry. Many bars and clubs, too. People everywhere, walking, talking, out and about.

FreeYourMind wrote:

The U.S. has become a totalitarian country, but it's still difficult for aware and semi-aware people to agree on just what kind of tyranny it is. The U.S. power structure is called a lot of different things -- fascist, corporatist, communist, socialist, etc. It's really a combination of more than one agenda, Cultural Marxist socially but also a globe-straddling imperial empire servile to giant multinational corporations and to Zionism and dedicated to forcing Cultural Marxism and mindless, deracinated consumerism on the rest of the world. Many people I have met from Eastern Europe who moved to the U.S. recognize the similarities to communism, the kind of system of control and paranoia they thought they were getting away from.

My hero. If there had been no Zionist scum on this Earth I wonder if the world would have been a better place.

J.Adama wrote:

FreeYourMind wrote:

The U.S. has become a totalitarian country, but it's still difficult for aware and semi-aware people to agree on just what kind of tyranny it is. The U.S. power structure is called a lot of different things -- fascist, corporatist, communist, socialist, etc. It's really a combination of more than one agenda, Cultural Marxist socially but also a globe-straddling imperial empire servile to giant multinational corporations and to Zionism and dedicated to forcing Cultural Marxism and mindless, deracinated consumerism on the rest of the world. Many people I have met from Eastern Europe who moved to the U.S. recognize the similarities to communism, the kind of system of control and paranoia they thought they were getting away from.

My hero. If there had been no Zionist scum on this Earth I wonder if the world would have been a better place.

During Communism there was no control over daily activities of people. Drinking, making bon fires, just living your daily life was not so restricted as it is in the US. Communism also started out as a pure philosophy ( with serious flaws related to economics- no incentive to work hard especially if you are not an idealist). Zionism has also been corrupted. It simply started out as a movement to help Euro Jews to get some land of their own and to get away from horrible massacres and pogroms.
However, now it is run by Jews who are not living in the Middle East and it did not create an agricultural paradise that Zionists hoped for or a prosperous socialist society. Israel is bankrupt and its Jews are definitely not rich. It is barely making a 1st world status simply because of the heavy US aid. Left on its own it will collapse.
Jews are no longer persecuted in Europe and now Europeans are more concerned about Muslims and it is other people that get bashed. Most Jews therefore do not want to live in Israel because of lack of security as well as a bad economy and no good jobs except in the army which is heavily subsidized by the US.
Jews in Israel discriminate against each other ( just as what Arabs do).
Zionism could have been justified in the past but it is no longer needed.


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Sometimes at night, I cannot sleep
While thinking of my fail'd romances.
Why is my word so hard to keep
In view of changing circumstances?

ladislav wrote:

J.Adama wrote:

FreeYourMind wrote:

The U.S. has become a totalitarian country, but it's still difficult for aware and semi-aware people to agree on just what kind of tyranny it is. The U.S. power structure is called a lot of different things -- fascist, corporatist, communist, socialist, etc. It's really a combination of more than one agenda, Cultural Marxist socially but also a globe-straddling imperial empire servile to giant multinational corporations and to Zionism and dedicated to forcing Cultural Marxism and mindless, deracinated consumerism on the rest of the world. Many people I have met from Eastern Europe who moved to the U.S. recognize the similarities to communism, the kind of system of control and paranoia they thought they were getting away from.

My hero. If there had been no Zionist scum on this Earth I wonder if the world would have been a better place.

During Communism there was no control over daily activities of people. Drinking, making bon fires, just living your daily life was not so restricted as it is in the US. Communism also started out as a pure philosophy ( with serious flaws related to economics- no incentive to work hard especially if you are not an idealist). Zionism has also been corrupted. It simply started out as a movement to help Euro Jews to get some land of their own and to get away from horrible massacres and pogroms.
However, now it is run by Jews who are not living in the Middle East and it did not create an agricultural paradise that Zionists hoped for or a prosperous socialist society. Israel is bankrupt and its Jews are definitely not rich. It is barely making a 1st world status simply because of the heavy US aid. Left on its own it will collapse.
Jews are no longer persecuted in Europe and now Europeans are more concerned about Muslims and it is other people that get bashed. Most Jews therefore do not want to live in Israel because of lack of security as well as a bad economy and no good jobs except in the army which is heavily subsidized by the US.
Jews in Israel discriminate against each other ( just as what Arabs do).
Zionism could have been justified in the past but it is no longer needed.

That sounds good. Communism wasnt so bad. Just that its leaders killed a few dozen million Russians.

I didnt know the state of the economy in Israel was so bad. They have venture capitalists, oil pipelines and US subsidies to live off of.

Israel's economy today is on par with Singapore and doing OK. One contributing factor to Israel's economic growth since the 1990s was the fall of USSR, which brought a large influx of secular-educated Jewish immigrants. They "boot-strapped" Israel's technology sector and overall economic situation.

However, if you look at the birth rate trends, you'd notice that non-orthodox (nationalist?) Jews have much lower birth rate vs. Haredi (ultra-orthodox?) Jews. If anyone is unfamiliar with the situation of Haredi Jews in Israel, you can read about it here:

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/business/in-london-as-opposed-to-israel-most-haredim-go-to-work-1.297563
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-01/israel-prosperity-seen-unsustainable-as-haredim-refusal-to-work-takes-toll.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi_Judaism#Present_day

"The Haredim are relatively poor, compared to other Israelis, but represent an important market sector.[27] Sixty percent of the men do not have regular jobs, preferring religious study, which is heavily subsidized by the government.[28] Consequently, the Israeli Haredim "probably spend more time in formal study than any other class of humans ever has in the history of the planet."[29] "More than 50 percent live below the poverty line and get state allowances, compared with 15 percent of the rest of the population…"[23] Their families are also larger, usually having six or seven children.[30]"


Unlike some of you, I actually think better of Zionists, because the nationalists are willing to work hard to achieve their goals. I think far less of Haredi men who opt for spiritual studies over hard work. These lazy bums are blood-sucking welfare parasites to the Israeli state and will some day cause its downfall. IMO Israel will be more of a liability than an asset to the United States in the future.


These wimpy welfare bums (to the left), will end up like the defenders in the Jewish-Roman War:



THIS, 65-ton Merkava IV, is the true defender of the Israeli state:




http://www.israeli-weapons.com/