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Re: When you realise you're going to die

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Yohan wrote:
January 18th, 2022, 11:13 am
Face masks are only a small part of actions you should consider to prevent to be infected with covid-19.

Just compare data of Japan and Korea with other countries which citizens are totally unwilling to co-operate with preventive measures and are faced by governments into lockdown, like Netherlands, UK, France and other European countries, or USA...

I saw a short time ago on TV a Japanese study about infection of covid-19 in restaurants comparing

1 - Nobody cares about anything.
vs.
2 - Everybody is entering the restaurant with face mask, is cleaning near entrance his hands with alcohol, facemask will only be removed during eating,
restaurant is using air cleaners, fixed transparent partitions between all tables, has plexiglass between the cashier and the paying customers, is using in the restrooms automatic washlets, staff is cleaning all tables with alcohol fluid before the next guest is sitting down etc,

The chance to be infected was 80 percent lower.
I stopped sanitizing my hands early on. There is a chance, a few percentage points, of contracting COVID-19. But there is a very high chance the skin on my hands will get irritated if I use hand sanitizer. I am middle aged and not in the highest risk categories,also.

I did not get the vaccine. The mRNA virus is new technology and they only have data for the first couple of years after it was given. I don't get flu shots-- shots of last year's flu.

It seems like a lot of the fast food restaurants have had the clean tables shut down for COVID-19 while the dirty tables are open. That makes no sense. There is usually plexiglass between the cashier and the customer, but not between all the customers. In grocery stores, employees sometimes wear masks that cover their mouths but not their noses.


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Re: When you realise you're going to die

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MrMan wrote:
January 18th, 2022, 5:26 pm
I stopped sanitizing my hands early on. There is a chance, a few percentage points, of contracting COVID-19. But there is a very high chance the skin on my hands will get irritated if I use hand sanitizer. I am middle aged and not in the highest risk categories,also.

I did not get the vaccine. The mRNA virus is new technology and they only have data for the first couple of years after it was given. I don't get flu shots-- shots of last year's flu.

It seems like a lot of the fast food restaurants have had the clean tables shut down for COVID-19 while the dirty tables are open. That makes no sense. There is usually plexiglass between the cashier and the customer, but not between all the customers. In grocery stores, employees sometimes wear masks that cover their mouths but not their noses.
The chance to be infected via your hands is high. All simple measures to prevent infection are useful, as a reduction of infections prevents lockdowns.

Compare USA or UK or Netherlands with Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, and their number of infections and the number of people in ICU and the death rates.

What a big difference...
US-bases in Japan ignored such advices, military staff arriving from the USA was not even tested and servicemen infected recently thousands of people inside and outside their bases. Now finally they are all confined in their military facilities and cannot go out anymore. What else could the military commander do otherwise?

Up to you, but I am not surprised any longer if Western governments consider forced vaccinations, lockdowns, obligatory face-masks even outdoors etc. if people like you wilfully ignore even simple hygienic prevention measures like hand sanitizers.

Dirty tables? Not here in Japan, staff are cleaning always carefully the table before the guest is allowed to sit down. Restaurants use now transparent partitions between their tables. In stores staff wearing face-masks correctly is 100 percent.

I prefer such simple measures instead of being not allowed to leave my own home anymore or to show a vaccination passport when entering a store or any public building.
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Re: When you realise you're going to die

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Yohan wrote:
January 18th, 2022, 8:59 pm
MrMan wrote:
January 18th, 2022, 5:26 pm
I stopped sanitizing my hands early on. There is a chance, a few percentage points, of contracting COVID-19. But there is a very high chance the skin on my hands will get irritated if I use hand sanitizer. I am middle aged and not in the highest risk categories,also.

I did not get the vaccine. The mRNA virus is new technology and they only have data for the first couple of years after it was given. I don't get flu shots-- shots of last year's flu.

It seems like a lot of the fast food restaurants have had the clean tables shut down for COVID-19 while the dirty tables are open. That makes no sense. There is usually plexiglass between the cashier and the customer, but not between all the customers. In grocery stores, employees sometimes wear masks that cover their mouths but not their noses.
The chance to be infected via your hands is high. All simple measures to prevent infection are useful, as a reduction of infections prevents lockdowns.

Compare USA or UK or Netherlands with Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, and their number of infections and the number of people in ICU and the death rates.

What a big difference...
US-bases in Japan ignored such advices, military staff arriving from the USA was not even tested and servicemen infected recently thousands of people inside and outside their bases. Now finally they are all confined in their military facilities and cannot go out anymore. What else could the military commander do otherwise?

Up to you, but I am not surprised any longer if Western governments consider forced vaccinations, lockdowns, obligatory face-masks even outdoors etc. if people like you wilfully ignore even simple hygienic prevention measures like hand sanitizers.

Dirty tables? Not here in Japan, staff are cleaning always carefully the table before the guest is allowed to sit down. Restaurants use now transparent partitions between their tables. In stores staff wearing face-masks correctly is 100 percent.

I prefer such simple measures instead of being not allowed to leave my own home anymore or to show a vaccination passport when entering a store or any public building.
I personally never use hand sanitizer. I hate it because of the smell and how often it is sticky. The chemicals could be bad for the skin. I only believe in hand washing. I never use hand sanitizer unless I am forced to use it which happened several times in Mexico and I stay well. Hand washing, vitamins, zinc, healthy diet most of the time, low stress, face masks, etc.
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