Posted: August 31st, 2011, 11:27 am
Aozora I have to say don't overlooked the clubs that play Black Music. It might seem like its negative but it really isn't. What limited experience I do have in going to these places, here's what typically happens. The women hook up with men hoping it turns into a long term relationship. Despite the rhetoric on this board, the women are interested in monogamy but the men because they seem to believe (and experience) that many woman are available to them because of scarcity don't engage in this, accept if they get them pregnant or Africans seeking status.aozora13 wrote:I would say that in Deutschland, Österreich (Austria) and Der Schwiez (Switzerland), people are not really polite and are very direct. I would say even when speaking in German they are really direct with you.
I have not tried BlackPlanet. I tried IR websites wrote to women in German (I can write okay in German but speaking is only about A2 (high beginner level)). One website AfroIntroductions really sucks as a website. I live in Vienna so it is in Austria but the women in Germany either think I am African, too far to talk (some truth) or have no interest in me. I think at times it is distance. Plus their excuses in German (and English) is really annoying.
I think meeting women in real life is much better no matter what people say. Honestly, I rather get with someone from eastern Europe. Probably even the Baltic states as Latvia. Girls are really beautiful there but do not see black guys (really rare as I was there) and so I do not know what girl wants to date an exotic foreigner.
Anyway, as DJ4Money mentioned, there are very few decent girls in some countries interested to date black guys on the websites. I think that if there are genuine girls who are willing to date black guys (western) then I would be for it. It is not easy in Vienna unless I go to black-music clubs which I should but I feel that beyond a casual relationship I want something serious.
Also about the original topic. I think if you have a decent amount of money $5000 (probably) you can move to Europe but as you said work is hard and for me it is not cheap either. I would say some people teach but I really am not sure about teaching. Marriage does give you working rights so if you want to stay in Europe your best option is find a great girl who wants to get married to you in a 1-2 period for you and then you can get your working/living rights in the country.
Does this mean there aren't women who are looking for short term flings? Yes, but those women are likely married already, just the fact man, just the facts.
So I would GO because those women want to date you seriously, if your serious about them. Use their "directness" against them. Don't bullshit, I'm being very direct and getting some attention. I personally don't think you can scare these women off by talking about serious things, IF you put them in the proper context, which is key.
I don't know how you deflect the notion that your African. Not speaking to them in their language might help. I would say Africans pick up the language quickly in order to survive. Be a "typical" American in that sense and pretend you don't speak German. Let it be a surprise you speak workable German when to get them away from the club or web site and get them in a one-on-one scenario.
The Baltic countries are interesting and there's a man shortage up there and almost no Black Men at all. You won't find a ton of them on BP or most US based IR sites, so you need to visit.
Gsjackson, I don't know what's going on bra again I think your making the error of speaking to them in their native language. That's a signal you might not be American, but African. Look some Africans and I hate to talk about them badly but they LIE! They LIE quite a bit. In most people's limited experience with Americans is they can't speak the native language and if they can, they butcher it badly.
Play the "dumb" American, it will likely work better. Being mutli-lingual only works for suave international player types. I know a few Czech Women that are into Black Men.
I don't find many Scandinavian on IR sites or BP. I have come to the conclusion that Scandinavians just don't use the internet to find singles very often. They rely on a local network of friends and family. It seems to me the only Swedish or Norwegian women on these sites are there because where they live there's limited access, have had children with an African or they happens to find a site like Love Is Colorblind or BP with a search engine.
That doesn't mean they aren't interested however....You just have to be there and not rely on the internet only. You two are in Europe, maybe you're working alot or something but I would be out two-three nights a week and drudge the internet. Sites I've had success on, BP, Tango Wire (Loveiscolorblind) and in years gone by IRC (mIRC) BlackWhiteSex Chat. Problem with IRC chat now is that its full of fat old women or fat young women. This is similar to the trash you find on AOL, yes that AOL.
I've done my own crude head count on BP and by far most profiles come from the US, UK and Germany. This trend is continued on IR Dating Sites. I'm trying to gauge the Ukrainian women I find on some of these sites. I don't know if scam artist have started to work on Black Male community or not.
All the women I have found came from the internet... You've seen the pictures right? I've come to rely on it because I am not in Europe. I've never had women in Europe assume I'm African. That's likely because I am making NO effort to learn the language, its not necessary until you need to use it. You guys live in Austria and the Czech Republic, I don't know what your doing wrong but avoiding the obvious should be looked at again.
That said avoid the women that like men with 8th grade grammar, you can do better than this.