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Lets review part 1 (Does looks matter?)

1. take 2 guys who are equal in confidence, the taller better looking guy will have a bigger advantage
2. Looks matter especially in highly competitive environments (especially ONLINE and bars and clubs)
3. take 2 guys who are both good looking, the more confident guy will get the girl more. Confidence trumps looks
4. with the right looks or height, more women will take you seriously and view you as Non-platonic, and consider you dating material
5. If she doesn't "see you as her type" (looks+height) no matter what you say or do, no matter how confident you are, you won't get to "date" her(this is outside of your control)
6. looks account for roughly 25-30% with the exception of online dating and bars/clubs. Although looks are a small portion of "game" it still DOES play a role on what kind of women you will get.
7. Sure, there are exceptions out there (short ugly guys dating really hot girls) but these are just the "minority" or "exception" not the "majority"... Fact is, Majority proves the rule, not the exception. ALthough you will see a short ugly guy dating a hot sexy girl, that short ugly guy probably has a lot of ($$, social status, or the right social circle) that got him that girl.

This is part 2 of my 6,000 approaches.

Does Money matter?

I've approached roughly 6,000 women and a lot of "Pickup artist" theory will tell you that "money doesn't matter, your game does". Famous "PUA" tyler durden aka owen cook from Real social dynamics claim "money doesn't shit shit" "it's how you carry yourself that gets you the girl".

after 6,000 approaches. I must say

MONEY DOES MATTER!!

If you are bill gates, the biggest nerd in the united states, bill gates can probably get ANY woman he wants just by having a lot of money alone! Without bill gates money, do you think gates will be as attractive? f**k NO! THis is one extreme example. However, if you are in the "middle class" or "working class" does money matter? I say yes it does. it matters in a context in which it implies.

WHICH MEANS, although you won't show your money up-front, it sub-communicates a lot of things about you. if you have money, you will give off

1. That you are financially secure about yourself
2. That you are financially responsible and independent
3. that you have something going for yourself
4. that you must be somewhat smart to have a decent job
5. by having money, you have a lot of compliance and power
6. women will respect you more if you have money
7. a great tool to "provide" in the future

fact is, majority of women in the united states prefer to date men who are financially secure. If a man has money, it implies a lot of things about him that makes him attractive (smart, financially secure, compliance/power, independent) all in which is a very attractive trait. Money itself won't get the girl, but the underlying meaning of having lots of money implies a lot of positive traits about the man. THis is why MONEY IS VERY IMPORTANT. This applies NOT JUST IN THE UNITED STATES, but IN THE WORLD! A hot sexy russian girl probably won't date you in the long run if you aren't financially stable.

downsides of having $ especially for meeting women. Some women "take advantage" of people with money for their personal gain. This is what we call "gold diggers"... If a woman never liked you in the first place, she will use you for your money. If you buy women clothing or any thing of that sort WITHOUT HER EARNING IT, you automatically lose your power as a man. So make sure she's "already earned it" such as (f***ing you already, or dated her in a certain amount of time) for you to buy her something.

In summary, Money does matter. It matters more on what it implies, not the money itself. Does money matter? f**k YEAH IT DOES!! Is it an important trait to get women? I Say yes! Even if women deny it nowadays (due to social conditioning), IT STILL MATTERS A LOT! That doesn't mean you have to be "RICH" or anything, just enough money so that you are financially secure.

Again, most of this is probably repetition; however, you can always learn a lot from repitition

Strange how in other parts of the world I know and see too many girls who work their ass off to take care of their lazy deadbeat husband.

Sexter wrote:In summary, Money does matter. It matters more on what it implies, not the money itself. Does money matter? f**k YEAH IT DOES!! Is it an important trait to get women? I Say yes! Even if women deny it nowadays (due to social conditioning), IT STILL MATTERS A LOT! That doesn't mean you have to be "RICH" or anything, just enough money so that you are financially secure.

Again, most of this is probably repetition; however, you can always learn a lot from repetition

Here's a stream of conscious thought on this ... let's be completely honest with ourselves, money is the most important aspect of our lives.

I doubt very much that outside of college, few women will want to ride on a bus for a date. Yes, they want to be driven and in particular, a Lexus (or a nice Camry) over a used Ford Escort.

And for us, with money, we can all do Rio for R&R, stay at top end hotels, and sleep with super models . Without money, everything is done on a budget & then people lie and make up stories to appear to be attractive to others. And of course, less vacation time/flight money for trips to Brazil & Thailand and once again, we waste time with AWs.

Thus, I say ... if you can become rich, do it! But then, don't date AWs with your new found wealth. Use money to facilitate your freedom.

S_Parc wrote:

Sexter wrote:In summary, Money does matter. It matters more on what it implies, not the money itself. Does money matter? f**k YEAH IT DOES!! Is it an important trait to get women? I Say yes! Even if women deny it nowadays (due to social conditioning), IT STILL MATTERS A LOT! That doesn't mean you have to be "RICH" or anything, just enough money so that you are financially secure.

Again, most of this is probably repetition; however, you can always learn a lot from repetition

Here's a stream of conscious thought on this ... let's be completely honest with ourselves, money is the most important aspect of our lives.

I doubt very much that outside of college, few women will want to ride on a bus for a date. Yes, they want to be driven and in particular, a Lexus (or a nice Camry) over a used Ford Escort.

And for us, with money, we can all do Rio for R&R, stay at top end hotels, and sleep with super models . Without money, everything is done on a budget & then people lie and make up stories to appear to be attractive to others. And of course, less vacation time/flight money for trips to Brazil & Thailand and once again, we waste time with AWs.

Thus, I say ... if you can become rich, do it! But then, don't date AWs with your new found wealth. Use money to facilitate your freedom.

agreed with this.... To add to your point

Money is IMPORTANT in general. Although it doesn't buy you happiness, you can buy things that make you happy. With money, you can provide for people to make others feel happy. Money makes the world go round

although money is "superficial", it's by far the most important thing in our lives(outside of our family/well being/friends). Without money, you can only go so far.

The world famous quote

"You may lose money chasing women, but you won't lose women chasing money"

couldn't agree even more. Hell, if I had lots of $$ right now, I would easily fly all over the world and travel and meet exotic women



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Terrence wrote:Strange how in other parts of the world I know and see too many girls who work their ass off to take care of their lazy deadbeat husband.

this only works if the couple has been Dating for a long time. Thus, anything superficial such as money doesn't supercede "love"

Initially, if you meet a beautiful woman; if you aren't financially stable then you will have to give out more factors outside of your $$ to be attractive (such as your personality and game). And even if you have a good personality or game, having money is STILL important in the long run(especially if you want to keep a woman).

Sexter wrote:Although it doesn't buy you happiness, you can buy things that make you happy.

Well, in the pursuit of wealth, one will eventually not work for *the man* or for the perennial *customer*. That in itself, is happiness, the experience of some real freedom.

And wouldn't it be nicer to meditate in a five star lodge, with daily massages, martinis, & GFE escorts vs a cave in Montana?

And yes, working on the great American novel, whether or not you become the next Hemingway or Twain, can be a part of it. This doesn't have to be a lackadaisical existence of goofing around.

No, Tyler Durden is right for two reasons:
1. Women can make their own money now. So it isnt like the old days when any man could have a woman simply by being a good provider.
2. Every man by default is supposed to be able to make a decent living. The inability to make a decent living simply puts the man in the loser category. It does not enhance his ability to get women one bit.

Now if you are a wealthy individual, that is completely different.

S_Parc wrote:

Sexter wrote:Although it doesn't buy you happiness, you can buy things that make you happy.

Well, in the pursuit of wealth, one will eventually not work for *the man* or for the perennial *customer*. That in itself, is happiness, the experience of some real freedom.

And wouldn't it be nicer to meditate in a five star lodge, with daily massages, martinis, & GFE escorts vs a cave in Montana?

And yes, working on the great American novel, whether or not you become the next Hemingway or Twain, can be a part of it. This doesn't have to be a lackadaisical existence of goofing around.

"work for *the man* is so ego based. Who cares if you work for a certain corporation or government, in the end, MONEY IS MONEY. If you don't like your job, then find another career. When it comes to money, i'll put my ego aside.

Adama wrote:No, Tyler Durden is right for two reasons:
1. Women can make their own money now. So it isnt like the old days when any man could have a woman simply by being a good provider.
2. Every man by default is supposed to be able to make a decent living. The inability to make a decent living simply puts the man in the loser category. It does not enhance his ability to get women one bit.

Now if you are a wealthy individual, that is completely different.

1. This doesn't disprove that $ doesn't imply positive characteristics about a man (independence, power, etc). Sure, women can make money now, that doesn't mean theya ren't attracted to people WITH money.

2. yes every man by default is supposed to make a decent living. If you aren't making a decent living or not Attempting to make a decent living, then what's your purpose?

tyler durden is a great teacher but don't take every thing as dogma. If you are an educated person, you should be thinking critically for yourself and outside the box.

Sexter wrote:"work for *the man* is so ego based. Who cares if you work for a certain corporation or government, in the end, MONEY IS MONEY. If you don't like your job, then find another career. When it comes to money, i'll put my ego aside.

For me, that old expression refers to a company/enterprise which tries to steal your vacation time, tries to get O/T without compensation, a/o offshores jobs outside of management.

But no, I don't have a problem with the man if he plays by his own stated rules.

And all this is saying, when boiled down to its most basic level is: women do not love men. They love the money.

Women get hot and naked for men with wealth, power and fame. The greatest trick if you are not wealthy yet, is to misrepresent yourself and get what you want -SEX! Then when she figures things out, she can go get bent and you get to move on to the next victim.

Generally speaking, women want a guy to pay for their kids, and their crap. She might say she wants to work, and she might say she is independent, but generally speaking, she will marry poindexter, cut her hair short, get knocked up, let herself get a little chunkarooni, and earn way less money during her lifetime then the stupid bastard that married her. On top of that, if you live outside of Afghanistan, you most likely will have to pay her to leave if you want to have sex with something else; something that is not nagging, old, and fat.

Why is money the sexiest thing to women? Because it guarantees she and her kids will have the best possible future. Women have a nose for money, if they get a whiff on you, you will be crawling with googly-eyed bitches. Just remember boys, never get married. Does it guarantee a man the best possible future? Generally speaking, absolutely not!