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A Veteran Commits Suicide Every 80 Minutes

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/02 ... 0-minutes/


18 veterans commit suicide each day

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/04/m ... e_042210w/



This upcoming Memorial day, I ask people to remember the sacrifices of those that died during the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as all previous wars. Sure, most of the wars are b.s., but I truly feel sorry for those that have been injured or dead because of their service. Stupid Americans don't even realize the pain and suffering veterans are going through right now and in the past because of the trauma from wars--such as what is happening to the Iraq/Afghanistan veterans and the Vietnam veterans in the past. This country's careless attitudes towards war makes me sick...and I say that as a former serviceman.



Angry veterans throwing out their medals:




Homeless veterans:




President's Dwight Eisenhower's farewell speech warning of the "Military Industrial Complex:"

Couldn't agree more with your take.

Bullshit. These veterans and soldiers are MURDERERS. In Iraq, they murdered like 1.5 million innocent civilians. In Afghanistan, they murdered like 500,000 innocent civilians.

Oh, poor wittle veterans are killing themselves! How sad! Nevermind the hundreds of thousands of women, children, and innocent men that they murdered in these wars.

This is called instant karma.

zboy1 I have no pity for those soldiers they know more than anyone what the real mission is ... massacre'

the only memorial to upkeep is for the nationals / civilians of those countries that got slaughtered... they end up getting mentally scarred obviously because who could live with such guilt.

If any man here wants to help the veterans, most of whom where sold a lie and then bought a lie, then go onto their site and start talking about MBA.

http://www.mensbusinessassociation.com/

Let them know we want Peace Officers and we will give preference to veterans.

Not all veterans are bad men.

http://www.mbaposervices.com/

Yes, there are some real dickheads in the military, but they are some good people in it as well! A lot of these kids are in the military for the education benefits or for the travel. Some of the soldiers are just brainwashed by American propaganda, but they come out of it real quick after a few years in service. Don't condemn all military folks and lump them into one group. Remember, some members on the forum are ex-military or still in the service...

Yeah I'm still on the fence about the deeds of these veterans of war and whether to honor them or not. To say they died for our country is complete bullshit....they died for business, deals, and money.
They weren't fighting for me or any of those innocent people who were slaughtered and murdered carelessly.

But they're not completely to blame, because their following the program and very few question these things. They fought for what they thought was right. Plus after watching quite a few documentaries and speaking with a few soldiers they all have mixed feelings and issues with this. So in retrospect my friends and I will drink to and for them, but not because of them.

As a Marine poolee, I can speak on this when I say that most Western militaries are rubbish.

Now, I DO support the FEW who possess enough intellect to see through the lies and other general bullshit they were fed by their countries. As well as the same ones who come back with limbs blown off or otherwise missing. Even though they chose to join, they didn't chose to step on that mine, or drive over that IED.

In GENERAL, however, I cannot stand NATO servicemembers. All of this 'war on terror' nonsense, and all this ignorant racism towards those of Middle Eastern descent -- and even religious hate. "If you're Muslim, you're not from the USA!"

The only vets I really respect are the ones from the Viet Nam conflict. There was a major draft then, and if enough digging is done, you can find that most of the troops didn't want to be there. All an example of America The Mighty sticking its nose where it didn't belong.

As far as the East goes? I'm for 'em. They're more patriotic and defensive in their shit. I support 'terrorist factions' like Al Queda and HAMAS. Maybe, just maybe, if the West left 'em alone, there wouldn't be so much "BOOM BOOM!"

I am kind of indifferent on this issue because I am not a big fan. But I really dislike how America treats it's the women and men of the armed forces. But political bullshit that I hate getting into.

War is the height of the distortion of separation within the false identity belief system. Those veterans committing suicide after deploying into Iraq and Afghanistan are getting exactly what they deserved for being so utterly left-brained and sheepish as to be tricked into believing it was normal to uninvitedly invade another country and slaughter it's people.

lavezzi wrote:War is the height of the distortion of separation within the false identity belief system. Those veterans committing suicide after deploying into Iraq and Afghanistan are getting exactly what they deserved for being so utterly left-brained and sheepish as to be tricked into believing it was normal to uninvitedly invade another country and slaughter it's people.

Um...you seem to forget that these same men may be homeless and job less and living on the street if they do not take up a "job" in the armed services.

I know a man from the US who came from very humble circumstances. He had NO CHANCE at a decent education. So he went into the army to get his education. He was very lucky not to be deployed. That is how the game is played. The Illuminati herd the sheep using money. If you do not comply you could starve and be on the street.

So lets not be bashing people who have little other alternative. You have a welfare system and you are drawing from it. That puts you in the same camp as the soldiers. Those in glass houses are best advised not to throw stones, eh?

In the times that I have not been employed I have REFUSED to take the welfare that I am entitled to because I do not wish to vote with my wallet to support criminals.

Difficult topic. But truth is most soldiers are stupid sheep. Though life is also about survival. Violence is part of life.

Anyway it´s difficult to blame people for being stupid

Billy wrote:Difficult topic. But truth is most soldiers are stupid sheep. Though life is also about survival. Violence is part of life.

Anyway it´s difficult to blame people for being stupid

Try telling that to the men who fought WW II.

Here is one of these stupid sheep you refer to. Norman Scarth.

http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/aus ... fault.aspx

http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/aus ... fault.aspx

Sure, he was successfully lied to in order to get him to deploy in WW II. But the lie was a very good one and many men believed it.

And now, at the age of 85, he is leading the charge for lawful rebellion in the UK. He was thrown in jail for SEVEN YEARS at the age of 75.

So how do YOU measure up to Norman Billy?

I know he is a much better man than I am or likely will ever be. That is why I respect him so much.

Those who are doing NOTHING to help are full of criticism for those who ARE. I guess the criticism makes their own culpability easier to lie to themselves about.

"All that is necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Bourke.

PeterAndrewNolan wrote:

lavezzi wrote:War is the height of the distortion of separation within the false identity belief system. Those veterans committing suicide after deploying into Iraq and Afghanistan are getting exactly what they deserved for being so utterly left-brained and sheepish as to be tricked into believing it was normal to uninvitedly invade another country and slaughter it's people.

Um...you seem to forget that these same men may be homeless and job less and living on the street if they do not take up a "job" in the armed services.

I know a man from the US who came from very humble circumstances. He had NO CHANCE at a decent education. So he went into the army to get his education. He was very lucky not to be deployed. That is how the game is played. The Illuminati herd the sheep using money. If you do not comply you could starve and be on the street.

So lets not be bashing people who have little other alternative. You have a welfare system and you are drawing from it. That puts you in the same camp as the soldiers. Those in glass houses are best advised not to throw stones, eh?

In the times that I have not been employed I have REFUSED to take the welfare that I am entitled to because I do not wish to vote with my wallet to support criminals.

That's simply not an adequate excuse for joining the US military knowing full well your main objective is to kill others. They could have gotten another job eventually with enough effort. But instead, like sheep they flocked along because mainstream society had conditioned them to think invading other countries is an AOK thing to do, and they paid the price when it traumatized them to the point of them no longer wanting to live. I am sad that more lives have been needlessly lost, but it was their own fault, no responsibility can be in any way shifted here.

Collecting the dole and killing other people are two COMPLETELY different things.

boycottamericanwomen wrote:Bullshit. These veterans and soldiers are MURDERERS. In Iraq, they murdered like 1.5 million innocent civilians. In Afghanistan, they murdered like 500,000 innocent civilians.

Oh, poor wittle veterans are killing themselves! How sad! Nevermind the hundreds of thousands of women, children, and innocent men that they murdered in these wars.

This is called instant karma.

Yes! It sucks that these people were all brainwashed with video games and rock music(which puts them in a feral, brainless zombified state, perfect for soldiers in war!) and then thrown to the wolves, because the elite wanted tons of blood for magic rituals and illegal political takeovers started from false, planted information. But these soldiers CHOOSE to go! The benefits may have been enticing, but their choice was their choice. A hitman asks for more benefits than dumb military grunts, which makes them perfect throwaway mercs!

Many of these people commit suicide, because they gave in to evil, then go crazy and self-destruct, just like evil, entropic people do. They let the elite possess them with wicked ideals.

The people I DO feel sorry for, are the innocent women, children, men AND UNARMED REPORTERS murdered by western soldiers. The video captured by military grunts killing tons of UNARMED people is disgusting! It made me sick to my stomach! And you know what? Many video games of today and of yesterday, emulate this kind of behavior for military training.