Stardusk - Men Will Not Change
Posted: June 20th, 2013, 10:11 am
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To be fair, you had the last of the older generation of men that were somewhat uncorrupted. I've had 40 year olds give me lots and lots of terrible advice that's completely irrelevant now. Personally, I feel I should only listen to people who are in a better position than me. Even most older people I bring up going abroad to, balk at the idea. Older people also tell me all I need to get American girls is positive attitude/etc. It depends on the older person. One older guy I talk to is that way, another guy about the same age, Russian American, I brought up going abroad, he's like "yeah, I got a nephew in Thailand right now and he says it's sweet. That's not a bad idea."PeterAndrewNolan wrote:This is correct....older men are not going to change their ways....and very few younger men will listen and learn.
The slow response to the MBA is proof of this.
So I am now focusing my efforts just on the those few young men who really want to make a difference in their own lives and own futures. They are few indeed.
Most men care very little about themselves and refuse to invest in their own futures. I find this totally amazing. When I was in my 20s I was soaking up information like a SPONGE. I was buying all the "self improvement" books and talking to older men at IBM and listening to what they had to say as a VERY kken student. Any older man who would take the time to talk to me and tell me his thoughts I would treat like GOLD DUST!!
In my 20s I held the opinion that any man over 40 who would deem me worthy of his words of wisdom was of IMMENSE VALUE to me and I treated them as such. I would often have lunch with my manager or older men and just let them talk while we ate lunch. After all? We all have to eat so to get the older guys talking to me while I was eating was a BIG deal.
Also, there was a guy in my team who was an older guy and we did some installs of our billing system together. This meant living in each others pockets. We lived in the same hotels and travelled to and from work in the same car etc. We ate breakfast and dinner together every day...so I was REALLY pleased he would share his life experiences with me.
This is one reason I am AMAZED that I am prepared to put into the public information that is MORE VALUABLE THAN GOLD BARS and yet have young men totally ignore what I am presenting to them. I even created the "nite-skool" concept and young men are not interested.
This is UNBELIEVABLE to me. In their position I would be paying a man like me to listen to him talk!! When I was in my 20s we only had books. It was a VERY valuable thing to be able to talk face to face with an older man who would share his wisdom with you. They were busy doing their own thing and I was busy with work. So with the advent of YT and internet forums? I would have thought young men would be falling all over themselves to learn from older guys...#
But they aren't. Because it is free they think there is no value! Not very smart if you ask me.
Yes....when I was young the older men were pre-boomers. When I talked about work most of those men were boomers.onethousandknives wrote:
To be fair, you had the last of the older generation of men that were somewhat uncorrupted. I've had 40 year olds give me lots and lots of terrible advice that's completely irrelevant now. Personally, I feel I should only listen to people who are in a better position than me. Even most older people I bring up going abroad to, balk at the idea. Older people also tell me all I need to get American girls is positive attitude/etc. It depends on the older person. One older guy I talk to is that way, another guy about the same age, Russian American, I brought up going abroad, he's like "yeah, I got a nephew in Thailand right now and he says it's sweet. That's not a bad idea."
Obviously, older people are worth listening to, but older people still err, quite badly. The better old folks to talk to are pre-boomer gen, imo. It was the boomers who got us into most of this mess. I'd assume (don't know your age, but looking at your pictures) that most of the older folks you talked to at your age were pre-boomer gen.