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The hookup culture only applies in college if

Posted: January 17th, 2014, 10:09 am
by theprimebait
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The Hookup Elites

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Not everyone in college is hooking up. It’s mostly the white and wealthy.

By Lisa Wade
Group of friends celebrating.
African-American students are less likely to hook up than white students
Photo by Michael Blann/Lifesize/Thinkstock

Let me lay out some statistics that, considered together, seem quite improbable. First, 91 percent of college students agree that their lives are dominated by the hookup culture. Second, the median number of hookups for a graduating senior is seven. That’s fewer than two hookups a year. Only about 40 percent of those hookups include sexual intercourse so, technically, the typical student acquires only two new sexual partners during college.

If students agree with the rest of the panicked culture and the recent New York Times story that they are embedded in an alcohol-fueled, porn-soaked, party scene that welcome casual sex, how is it possible that their actual sexual activity can be described with numbers like two and seven?

This was the question that led me to rethink what was really happening on college campuses. The vast majority of published research on hookup culture, mine included, focuses on the gender dynamics: the extent to which college women are empowered or disempowered by their experience with hookup culture. Media coverage of the phenomenon has followed suit.

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Gender, however, is not the only way to slice the data. Buried in the statistics is information about who is participating in the hookup culture more or less actively. And, it turns out, not everyone on campus embraces the scene equally. Only 14 percent of students hookup more than 10 times in four years and these students are more likely than others to be white, wealthy, heterosexual, able-bodied, and conventionally attractive, according to quantitative studies of hookup behavior. Students who do not fall into these categories hook up significantly less and are more likely to disapprove of or be uninterested in the whole endeavor. To give you an idea of why, I’ll briefly discuss what we know about the attitudes and behaviors of African-American versus white and working-class versus middle-class students.

African-American students are less likely to hook up than white students. Sociological studies suggest that lingering racism plays a part: Black people have been traditionally stereotyped as hypersexual (trigger warning: see the “jezebelâ€￾ and “mandingoâ€￾ stereotypes). So, for black men and women, embracing sexual freedom can bring individual rewards, but also risks affirming harmful beliefs about African-Americans. In response, some black people feel the need to perform a politics of respectability. Rashawn Ray and Jason Rosow, for example, in a comparison of black and white fraternities, found that black men’s resistance to negative racial stereotypes sometimes involved being “goodâ€￾ and following mainstream social norms of appearance and behavior.

There are other, more practical reasons as well. Unpublished research led by USC graduate student Jess Butler, whose dissertation addressed hookup culture, suggests that there may be a separate African-American hookup scene on some colleges. However, hookup scenes often revolve around fraternity houses and, because of historic and ongoing economic inequality, black fraternities are less likely to have houses. Meanwhile, in general, black students are more strongly in favor of gender equality and drink less alcohol than whites. Neither of these facts facilitate hookup scripts.

Working-class students are also less likely to participate in hookup culture. Upper-middle- and upper-class students approach college with a certain sense of entitlement. They hook up because they are fairly confident that they will spend several years working on their careers before they get married. And they feel confident that they’ll graduate from college with relative ease, so they’re comfortable spending a lot of time partying. Here’s an example of how one class-privileged college student sees things, as reported by sociologists Laura Hamilton and Elizabeth Armstrong:

“I’ve always looked at college as the only time in your life when you should be a hundred percent selfish ... I have the rest of my life to devote to a husband or kids or my job ... but right now, it’s my time.â€￾

In contrast, poor and working-class students, who are often the first ones in their families to attend college, tend to take it much more seriously and don’t take for granted that they’ll finish, so they party less. They also bring their values with them, so they imagine starting a family earlier. Investing in a serious boyfriend or girlfriend is more in line with these goals. As one working-class student said, in a separate study by Hamilton, about her wealthier peers:

“Some of these girls don’t even go to class. It’s like they just live here. They stay up until 4:00 in the morning. [I want to ask,] ‘Do you guys go to class? Like what’s your deal? ... You’re paying a lot of money for this ... If you want to be here, then why aren’t you trying harder?’ â€￾

So what we are seeing on college campuses is the same dynamic we see outside of colleges. People with privilege—based on race, class, ability, attractiveness, sexual orientation, and, yes, gender—get to set the terms for everyone else. Their ideologies dominate our discourses, their particular set of values gets to appear universal, and everyone is subject to their behavioral norms. Students feel that a hookup culture dominates their colleges not because it is actually widely embraced, but because the people with the most power to shape campus culture like it that way.

Posted: January 17th, 2014, 10:14 am
by SilverEnergy
Without regards to race, popular guys, jocks, frat guys, drug dealers, wealthy guys and guys who somehow have a decent size social network do hook up regularly.

Any race of guy who fits into the above categories won't have a problem getting laid on a regular basis.

Whites hook up more in college because there are more of them who go to college than other races.

Go to a black college and many of the blacks are getting laid regularly.

But the truth remains that most guys in college are NOT getting laid on a regular basis.

A smart guy who isn't getting laid on a regular basis would do this: Focus on building your million/billion dollar company when everyone else is partying, getting wasted, sleeping with everything that moves.

The women who ignored the smart guy and the alpha males who were their boyfriends will eventually become the employees of the "smart guy" who they ignored and true revenge will be achieved :D

Posted: January 17th, 2014, 12:09 pm
by Banano
"A smart guy who isn't getting laid on a regular basis would do this: Focus on building your million/billion dollar company when everyone else is partying, getting wasted, sleeping with everything that moves."


It is going to be long journey though, by the time this smart kid is millionaire or billionaire he will be in his 40s and thats if he is lucky enough to become one. How many people are that rich by 40 years of age? less than 5% or maybe less than 1%
You gonna go insane by the the time you reach your goal, how many lonely nights without p***y? self esteem will go down the toilet and if you are fortunate enough to become rich you will only attract gold diggers (who will f**k on the side btw) or you will be able to afford expensive hookers
If you cant attract women when you are in your 20s...you are literally f*cked, accept the fact or go to some 3rd world country

Going abroad is more realistic option for guys who have problems with dating.

Posted: January 17th, 2014, 12:38 pm
by SilverEnergy
Banano wrote:"A smart guy who isn't getting laid on a regular basis would do this: Focus on building your million/billion dollar company when everyone else is partying, getting wasted, sleeping with everything that moves."


It is going to be long journey though, by the time this smart kid is millionaire or billionaire he will be in his 40s and thats if he is lucky enough to become one. How many people are that rich by 40 years of age? less than 5% or maybe less than 1%
You gonna go insane by the the time you reach your goal, how many lonely nights without p***y? self esteem will go down the toilet and if you are fortunate enough to become rich you will only attract gold diggers (who will f**k on the side btw) or you will be able to afford expensive hookers
If you cant attract women when you are in your 20s...you are literally f*cked, accept the fact or go to some 3rd world country

Going abroad is more realistic option for guys who have problems with dating.
Of course, going abroad is more realistic but I like to discuss the other side as well.....

Because of the internet, there are more people who become millionaires and billionaires while they're young these days.

The internet is built on speed and money is digital now.

Billionaires under 40: http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eimh45gj ... s-of-2013/

Millionaires under 20: http://addicted2success.com/success-adv ... -millions/

Posted: January 17th, 2014, 1:07 pm
by Jeremy
I'm white but come from a working class background. All my friends were ethnics, and none of us hooked up (most of us couldn't even get girlfriends). I have no idea what the good looking upper middle class white kids were up to. If they were hooking up, they must've been pretty secretive about it.

I'd advise any young guy who doesn't fit the pretty boy mold (regardless of race) to skip college entirely. Start working full time and f***ing hookers at 18 instead. No future job prospects are worth the mental scarring you'd incur from four years of being tortured by prime sloots flashing skin.

Re: The hookup culture only applies in college if

Posted: December 17th, 2015, 11:57 pm
by alexmerlin
Without regards to race, popular guys, jocks, frat guys, drug dealers, wealthy guys and guys who somehow have a decent size social network do hook up regularly.

Any race of guy who fits into the above categories won't have a problem getting laid on a regular basis.

Whites hook up more in college because there are more of them who go to college than other races.

Go to a black college and many of the blacks are getting laid regularly.

But the truth remains that most guys in college are NOT getting laid on a regular basis.

A smart guy who isn't getting laid on a regular basis would do this: Focus on building your million/billion dollar company when everyone else is partying, getting wasted, sleeping with everything that moves.

The women who ignored the smart guy and the alpha males who were their boyfriends will eventually become the employees of the "smart guy" who they ignored and true revenge will be achieved.

Re: The hookup culture only applies in college if

Posted: December 19th, 2015, 8:43 pm
by wanderlust
I've read many places that college students are actually having sex less than their non-college counterparts, not more. But those who do it, get a TON of publicity for it. Some of it is self-generated by Instagram or Facebook. Also the lifestyle media LOVES to post up articles on it. Think HuffPo, Gawker, Vox, Salon, Slate, etc.

Typical college student from what I recall was stressed over money, grades and work. Stress tends to throw a wet blanket on sex. It was the ones that didn't have these worries that were really living it up. Granted, that was now more than a decade ago, but things probably haven't changed that much. Ordinary women were interested in men largely for emotional support at that time (always a one-way street) and to the elite girls we were just invisible, not simply options passed over.

College has a reputation for being a racket. But college social life is a racket of its own. $$$ for hanging out, parties and hangovers. After wasting time and money, you're still where you started. Who did it serve?

1) Elite women, 9's and 10's who got to ride an even bigger tidal wave of attention. That's their real motive a lot of the time.
2) The ballers, the frat guys, the dealers who took these women for a romp and got to be King of the Hill for yet another evening.

What if nobody else showed up? Status is a relative thing. Unfortunately so many men have to expend their prime years finding this out.

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Posted: December 19th, 2015, 9:01 pm
by NorthAmericanguy
Banano wrote:"A smart guy who isn't getting laid on a regular basis would do this: Focus on building your million/billion dollar company when everyone else is partying, getting wasted, sleeping with everything that moves."


It is going to be long journey though, by the time this smart kid is millionaire or billionaire he will be in his 40s and thats if he is lucky enough to become one. How many people are that rich by 40 years of age? less than 5% or maybe less than 1%
You gonna go insane by the the time you reach your goal, how many lonely nights without p***y? self esteem will go down the toilet and if you are fortunate enough to become rich you will only attract gold diggers (who will f**k on the side btw) or you will be able to afford expensive hookers
If you cant attract women when you are in your 20s...you are literally f*cked, accept the fact or go to some 3rd world country

Going abroad is more realistic option for guys who have problems with dating.
I agree with the above^^ Also, escorts are another option here in America. There are plenty of escorts in the range of $40-120 range. Expensive escorts are like the stock market, the prices go up and down in cycles. Back in 2008 yes escorts were expensive, but not now.

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Posted: December 19th, 2015, 9:02 pm
by NorthAmericanguy
Jeremy wrote:I'm white but come from a working class background. All my friends were ethnics, and none of us hooked up (most of us couldn't even get girlfriends). I have no idea what the good looking upper middle class white kids were up to. If they were hooking up, they must've been pretty secretive about it.

I'd advise any young guy who doesn't fit the pretty boy mold (regardless of race) to skip college entirely. Start working full time and f***ing hookers at 18 instead. No future job prospects are worth the mental scarring you'd incur from four years of being tortured by prime sloots flashing skin.
^^ Agreed.

Re: The hookup culture only applies in college if

Posted: December 19th, 2015, 11:07 pm
by jamesbond
There are more girls in college filing false rape charges than ever before. This is why sexual activity on college campuses are much lower than years past.

College girls are also filing false stalking charges against guys in college. Now even flirting with girls in college is considered a crime! WTF? :shock:

Re: The hookup culture only applies in college if

Posted: December 22nd, 2015, 3:27 am
by drronnie
jamesbond wrote:There are more girls in college filing false rape charges than ever before. This is why sexual activity on college campuses are much lower than years past.

College girls are also filing false stalking charges against guys in college. Now even flirting with girls in college is considered a crime! WTF? :shock:
I wonder what happened. Do girls in college hate sex now or are they only filing false rape charges because they csn?

Re: The hookup culture only applies in college if

Posted: December 22nd, 2015, 1:00 pm
by S_Parc
From my experience, as a white fella, if I wanted to hooked up regularly, I'd have joined the drug culture back in the days. That's where all the action is.

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Posted: December 22nd, 2015, 3:44 pm
by travelsouth
Jeremy wrote:I
I'd advise any young guy who doesn't fit the pretty boy mold (regardless of race) to skip college entirely. Start working full time and f***ing hookers at 18 instead. No future job prospects are worth the mental scarring you'd incur from four years of being tortured by prime sloots flashing skin.
LOL what horrible advice. The right advice to tell all young people (especially if they don't have family money) is to get a skill. It's that simple. It doesn't always take four years to make that happen. For example truck driving school is a lot shorter.