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Man, thats a good point. And its one i have been wondering about every so often since i have gotten engaged to a Filipina. I too, when I was there, saw the same things you mentioned. And even in the USA, a girl born to a white man and a Filipina would likely do well. But I do worry what if we have sons and they live here in the USA. I mean, theres exceptions, but I'm inclined to believe the women here would see them as lower than they do even their own pure white men.

Very interesting question. First of all, as you realise, your daughter has Spanish and Filipino (Malay or Polynesian ancestry) genes and that bodes very well in the looks department.

Remember though that it's always nature and nurture, and the way you bring your child and the surroundings she will have in her first few years of her life will shape much of her future life.

For the little I know about Filipino history, I know it's still a heavily partitioned society, with a pecking order that favours old colonial ancestry, mostly Spanish but also French and German ancestry, and then Chinese and Korean/Japanese to a (much) lesser extent. I don't know which branch of society your wife belongs to, but I can assume that, given your young age, you have yet to establish yourself in the Philippines. Finding a good job and good "titos" (older people who will like to be your sponsor at work or in life) is probably more important than ever right now.

If you were to have a son, what you call an "Eurasian son", his chances in the Philippines will be probably dictated more by the place in Filipino society you will have managed to secure for yourself and your family by then, than how he looks like. Outside the Philippines...it's hard to say, as different flavours of an exotic look can come and go like the wind. Perhaps in a few years a few half-Asian actors or models will smash the scene, everybody will look up to them and if your son happens to look like them, he will have (involuntarily) hit jackpot.

Jokes apart, I wouldn't worry too much about your son becoming an Elliott Rodger. With a healthy (more than wealthy) family and a warm, inclusive society like the Filipino, and perhaps a hint of discipline from one of those Jesuit schools and colleges, he will grow up just fine.

jtest28 wrote:Man, thats a good point. And its one i have been wondering about every so often since i have gotten engaged to a Filipina. I too, when I was there, saw the same things you mentioned. And even in the USA, a girl born to a white man and a Filipina would likely do well. But I do worry what if we have sons and they live here in the USA. I mean, theres exceptions, but I'm inclined to believe the women here would see them as lower than they do even their own pure white men.

The question you should be asking your self more is, "Will America still be one country in the next 20 years?". Things changes, America just like the Soviet Union is headed for catastrophe, so all these white women will be forced to be submissive once again

MarcosZeitola wrote:So, my focus here is as much on the future as it is on the here and now... and because of this I ask: what are the future dating prospects of Eurasian sons, those born to western men who went abroad and found love and stability in Asia?

I would say, "define Asia". In the Philippines, half white sons would do better, but in other parts of Asia, I think it wouldn't be as good for them.

I am a white man and Asian women are my favorite but I am not delusional thinking that Asian women all worship white men like a lot of white men believe.
Trust me that east Asian women prefer their own race to white men. But if Asian women do date other men then white men is their first option.

As far as your Eurasian children. Eurasian daughters would do reasonably well with normal white men. As far as Eurasian sons they will get by but won't do as good as pure white men with the white women and won't do as good as pure Asian men with the Asian women.

The USA portrays Asian men as ugly losers and they pick ugly ass Asian men to be part of Hollywood like that guy that was in Heroes or that other Asian guy who was in Harold and Kumar.

If you take a visit to Japan you will see many men that look attractive and start to understand why the native women there prefer their own men over white men. But white men still do better than any other non Asian man when it comes to dating Asian women.

Watch a show called Ninja Warrior and you will soon find out true Asian men aren't how Hollywood portrays them.

Here are some examples of how good looking Asian men can be.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_eS4X-iRnrE4/TTkwA ... imgmax=800
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2320 ... 196ax5.jpg
http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/8977 ... 11s0yg.jpg
http://media1.break.com/breakstudios/20 ... review.jpg
http://star.koreandrama.org/wp-content/ ... g-Woo5.jpg
http://cfile10.uf.tistory.com/image/167 ... 353B1E0A02[/url]

MarcosZeitola wrote:

Zionosis wrote:I am a white man and Asian women are my favorite but I am not delusional thinking that Asian women all worship white men like a lot of white men believe.
Trust me that east Asian women prefer their own race to white men. But if Asian women do date other men then white men is their first option.

As far as your Eurasian children. Eurasian daughters would do reasonably well with normal white men. As far as Eurasian sons they will get by but won't do as good as pure white men with the white women and won't do as good as pure Asian men with the Asian women.

The USA portrays Asian men as ugly losers and they pick ugly a** Asian men to be part of Hollywood like that guy that was in Heroes or that other Asian guy who was in Harold and Kumar.

If you take a visit to Japan you will see many men that look attractive and start to understand why the native women there prefer their own men over white men. But white men still do better than any other non Asian man when it comes to dating Asian women.

Watch a show called Ninja Warrior and you will soon find out true Asian men aren't how Hollywood portrays them.

Here are some examples of how good looking Asian men can be.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_eS4X-iRnrE4/TTkwA ... imgmax=800
http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/8977 ... 11s0yg.jpg
http://media1.break.com/breakstudios/20 ... review.jpg
http://star.koreandrama.org/wp-content/ ... g-Woo5.jpg
http://cfile10.uf.tistory.com/image/167 ... 353B1E0A02

Three out of five of your examples are a single man: Godfrey Gao. A 6'4" Taiwanese model and actor. Hardly representative for the average Asian man the same way Idris Elba is not your average African man and Brad Pitt isn't exactly the average American. Movie stars will always be tall and handsome regardless of where in the world you go, safe for a few Hollywood stars and their lifts.

The average man in the Philippines, and quite a few other Asian nations at that, tends to be a bit on the shorter and stockier side as compared to their Western and African counterparts. There are many exceptions to this general rule as I've encountered very tall men from the Philippines, Japan and Korea alike. In malls in Manila I frequently saw Korean men my height or even taller, and I am six feet myself. I've also seen a Filipino man who stood about 6'6" or 6'7" once when buying groceries with my wife in a metro-Manila store. He was by far the largest Asian I have ever encountered in real life. I can see why many Asian ladies would prefer a large, powerful man of their own ethnic background over one of White ancestry.

However in the Philippines almost every single famous actor or actress has some form of white ancestry, be it Spanish, American or something else. Filipino's worship light skin in much the same way many Koreans do. Many young girls frantically take umbrellas out wherever they go to protect their skin from tanning in the sun and whitening cream ads and special lightening shampoos are all over the TV and billboards. The Philippines definitely has more then a mild obsession with whiteness and light skin. For this reason alone I feel my sons would do well out there, though not every single woman will want the same.

Since they will be only half White and still also half Filipino, I feel they may be more attractive to local women then a pure white man would be in much the same way a naturally born lighter skinned Filipino man or woman would be regarded "more beautiful" by many people there. Exceptions, of course, exist everywhere. It's just something that I have noticed and that I found myself quite intrigued by.

WTF are you serious. 3? what 3. Only the first man is Godfrey Gao.
Second man is tri nguyen,
3rd man is kim_rae-won it even says his name in the link. lol.
4th man is Kwon-Sang-Woo which even says it in the link also.
5th man is some Korean guy from a series called Dong Yi.

Why do you have to BS and make crap up. Or maybe you just think all Asians look the same like most other white people since you obviously claimed that 3 of these are one man and they don't even look similar, lol

If you continue to claim that 3 of these men are Godfrey Gao then I am not even going to reply to you because it's just stupidity.

Also maybe you haven't been to Japan or Korea because they aren't midgets or dark skinned unless you go to Okinawa where they are a tad darker. In areas like Tokyo they are actually very pale and only slightly shorter than whites. I am 5'11'' and still saw many men taller than myself. Also Asians have liked their white skin ever before white man ever reached Japan. The old nobility used to be very pale and stay out of the sun and long ago they even used to put white makeup stuff on themselves long before the Geisha's and even before the Kabuki actors. Mind you this crap dates back to even the Sengoku era which was far before any white man ever knew about Japan.
And the Japanese and others like them still value pale skin. Yet the only difference is now white man claims they are just doing it because they want to look like the white man. lol


Also why are you mentioning the Philippines so much. I didn't post one man from there or even say anything about them. The Filipino people are darker and not of the same stock as the Asians I am talking about. Also the Filipino people probably have more Japanese bred into them than whites considering the Japanese occupied their country in WW2 and bred in a fair bit at that time. A lot of the paler Filipino's are probably from Japanese parents a few generations ago.
In fact I saw many on dating sites that are half Japanese half Filipino.

Look you can believe whatever you want though. I am sure the paler Asians are considered hotter in the Philippines, Just like Thailand. But a lot of the pale ones in the Philippines are probably a result of Japanese interbreeding with them in WW2 and that's why they still look Asian.

Believe it or not but Asian genes breed out pretty quickly. Just look at Bruce Lee's son who was 1/4 Chinese yet could pass as a normal white in a crowd.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/ ... e/7454.jpg

He looks like practically a normal white to me. Long face, White eye shape and nose ridge.
White genes are more dominant than Asian genes. A lot of 1/4 Asians with 3/4 white look like normal whites.
Black people have the most dominant genes, Whites are moderately dominant and Asian genes as in east Asian genes are the most recessive. Just about the only thing that is a little dominant is the eye and hair color. The genes for facial shape and skull shape and body type are recessive.

@MarcosZeitola

Well I didn't really read your whole initial post. I agree with that other guy that looks buff and is holding his dog.
Your kids being half white and half Filipino should probably do alright down there.
I am not claiming that the majority of the native women down there will prefer them but a decent amount will like them. After all it isn't exactly hard for a full white man to get a woman down there so a man with half white and half Filipino will find it even a tad easier than the pure white man. It all really comes down to if your sons end up good looking also.

Also a few years ago I thought most south Asians were dark but turns out there are many under china who are pretty damn pale naturally. For instance in Singapore they aren't exactly as pale as a Korean or Japanese but they are still pretty damn pale.

The Filipinos seem on average darker but their are still a decent amount that seem reasonably pale ones like here.
http://www.philcongen-hk.com/media/2009 ... ix%205.jpg

There was a Filipino family that lived across the street from me and they were really dark. My guess is that a lot of these paler ones also stay out of the sun a lot also. The Philippines has more intense sun that north Asia and they tan quickly there if out in the sun too much.

My guess, after having spoken to a few AWs on such matters, I'd say that the closer a Eurasian male looks like the late Brandon Lee, the better his chances.



What Brandon has is the Latin-American/Mediterranean movie star look. Basically, the guy who's in Latin daytime soap operas, always in some love triangle.

Thus, for men, it's more hit/miss and a bit of luck whereas for women, it's basically no problem, even if they're not very attractive.

I'm half White/half Chinese and 5'7". I don't know if it's too much of a problem regarding ladies. As for height, it depends on what state you live in. I'm right outside New York City and I never felt too short until I moved to the South for college. Even then I got tons of girls going for me though. I mean, Bruno Mars is popular, isn't he?

I think it's more important to have a stable, unified family. My parents divorce and I take it as a sign of failed race relations. I'm not against race mixing per se, but I don't think it should be encouraged. Too many people engage in it without thinking f the consequences. By even posting this it shows you're not one of them. That's good.

My biggest piece of advice is this: The family that prays together, stays together.

My family didn't and we were divided. Even without religion, you shouldn't let cultural differences divide you. In fact, you should try to completely eliminate any cultural differences. The Bible says you should be one flesh.

For your sons, this isn't politically correct, but they're the ones who carry the family name, so it's important who they marry. Since I'm mixed, if I marry a White woman, my son would only be a quarter Chinese. If I married a Chinese woman my son would be 75% Chinese. That's a huge difference in how people would see them, how they'd see themselves and how they'd look at the world, what values they'd have and what History they'd feel connected to. It's not a good burden to have to make that sort of choice, so it's much better if you keep your family united. You don't want your son to end up like me because I plan on changing my last name.

Ah, you're in the Philippines? I wouldn't worry then. When you mentioned Elliot Rodgers I figured you were in America. People like Rodgers are very much a product of American culture, so I wouldn't worry about it.

No problem

There are so many black and white couples theses days its jaw dropping. A white Philippine child with a white father is considered white by most and isn't a big deal these days. At the present rate the mullato population in the usa will be comparable to south America and make up a great portion of society with welfare mothers producieing about one a min and the lucky working class gets to pay for it. yuk.

abcdavid01 wrote:
Since I'm mixed, if I marry a White woman, my son would only be a quarter Chinese. If I married a Chinese woman my son would be 75% Chinese. That's a huge difference in how people would see them, how they'd see themselves and how they'd look at the world, what values they'd have and what History they'd feel connected to. It's not a good burden to have to make that sort of choice, so it's much better if you keep your family united.

You said it. I go through the same thing.

abcdavid01 wrote:
You don't want your son to end up like me because I plan on changing my last name.

Sounds like you plan to go Chinese or Asian rather than White or Jewish?

One small advantage is that there is a tradition of Chinese people having different Western and Chinese names. Maybe you can pick a cool name that sounds like a gangster or movie star!

MarcosZeitola wrote:
I'm a thoughtful person and I like to think of the long-term effects of the choices I make in life. For me and for the children I have and plan on having. I'm a lot more focused on their future then I am on just my own, as theirs and mine are entwined by the bloodline that connect us. Their future is my future. And their success as much my success as their failure is my failure. Above all, I want them to happy and I want to have a good life..................

You are indeed a thoughtful person, intelligent and diplomatic too.

Welcome to HA!

MarcosZeitola wrote:

.................As for the choice you speak of... one could also marry another mixed person. What if you were to marry a girl who's Eurasian herself, like you? Then your children would still be 50\50 and coming from a similar background to your own, she may understand you a little more then your average pure Chinese or American girl would. Just a little food for thought.

This would have been infinitely better for me, if I had done it. Maybe hard to find but worth looking.

MarcosZeitola, please let your sons or daughters be proud of their Asian heritage! Don't have them end up being self-hating Asian American types or another Elliot Rogers, PLEASE!

Also, have them be very aware of their Filipino culture and background; that way, they can use their dual backgrounds to a great advantage, because Asia is the future, and the West is in decline.

OutWest--who is a White man married to a Filipina women, and has two mixed children--also agrees with this notion, and his doing everything possible to stay in the Philippines, and raise his kids to be proud mixed-race children who embrace their Asian side. Also, he wants them to take advantage of the economic center shifting towards Asia, and away from the West.

On average WMAF Eurasian men tend to look more Asian than AMWF Eurasians. It seems that the perception is that it takes any white man, even a beta one to have an Asian woman, but it takes an alpha Asian man to have a white woman.