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In an article you may or may not have seen in the Global Times (Yeah, I know...) was one penned by a Stephanie N who laments on her lack of dating choices in China, well, in Shanghai more accuarately... she is not the first to put pen to paper to vent on her frustrations on this growing trend of extremely ignored white women (the Acronym is EIWW... :lol: )but I thought I would share it with the patrons of this site as I know you will appreciate young Stephanies thoughts, instead of copy and pasting the whole thing (which can be found at: http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/980416.shtml) I decided to copy and paste some of the highlights and counter with my own observations - being one of the demographic she is lamenting about.
Shanghai might have one of the largest foreign communities in all of China, but this certainly doesn't make it any easier for foreign females when it comes to dating.

Of course, this isn't the case for every Western woman in China, many whom are already married and just tagging along on their husband's expat package. But for the most part, finding a suitable mate here is not at all as easy nor fun as back home, as the odds are simply against us.
How can finding a suitable mate in a population of 34 MILLION be so hard... there must be a suitable man amongst the many men who live and work in Shanghai... oh I forgot, they are CHINESE - silly me, that won't do.
Most everyone knows by now that Western men are god-like figures in China, attracting hoards of local women who are drawn to their masculine appearances and dominant personalities in comparison to the average effeminate, small-sized Chinese men. Generally speaking, Western men are also more blunt about what they want than the average local fellows, which seems to appeal to the native women, ensuring that most Western men here are never short on sex.
This is not really true.

There are lots of western men who get very little in the way of attention from Chinese women - a lot of western men are indeed small, non masculine, some are bald and fat and ugly whereas some Chinese men are tall and well built (though not all that common, these people do exist). Chinese men - the rich, tall, well built and masculine ones - get more quality tail than any white guy.
Unfortunately, the same principle does not apply to Western women when it comes to dating Chinese men. If anything, we're considered too dominant, turning the majority of them off with our independent personalities and strong opinions.
And nothing to do with the vast majority of you and your inbuilt racism - of course...
White males seem to fall into a frenzy of dating as many local women as they possibly can with absolutely no commitment to any of them. They become spoiled by choice, knowing that there's a different option waiting for them at every bar and each English corner.
Aaaaaaaaaaaah now we know who are pissing in her chips - not the many Taiwanese, Korean, Malaysian, Singaporean, Nigerian, Congolese expats - but the white ones - if some guy from El Salvador is f***ing half of Shanghai then so what? Stephanie doesn't give two shits about his black ass.
New expat women to China, whom are derisively called "fempats" by expat men, quickly understand this phenomenon upon arriving and either have to accept their singleness or grow old waiting for white guys to come to their senses.
Oooooooooh - those white guys again - when are y'all going to come to your senses?

I have never heard the term 'fempats' before - cat ladies is a term that gets bandied around a lot though....
One night stands might be fun for the first several years in China, but the constant merry-go-round of meaningless flings here gets old pretty fast. Human beings are hardwired to eventually make emotional connections, and considering the cultural clashes that many mixed couples seem to encounter - whenever you see a mixed couple in public they always look miserable - it's inevitable that most foreign males in China will ultimately prefer to marry a white woman than go native.
This is the unbelievable arrogance of most of these expat women.

It isn't enough for the message to be rammed down their throat - but they still think that they are the bee knees - now, there are a few men who date white in Asia but I know loads of guys who have dated and married local women in Korea, Japan, Taiwan and China. Once most white men have had a long term local girlfriend and has made a choice of monogamy - he isn't going back to some white woman the size of a tank. f**k off you deluded cow - go and tell it to the cat!

Also...

and considering the cultural clashes that many mixed couples seem to encounter - whenever you see a mixed couple in public they always look miserable

You know who looks more miserable, the white blokes who have brought their girlfriends from home - :lol: I haven't seen a bloke look as miserable since basic training in the army.
It would be nice to see the culture gap between Westerners and Chinese eventually narrow in order for foreign women to have a fighting chance at dating Chinese men.
The vast majority of you would have to let go of your racist views about Asian men in general, there are lots of Asian men who would love to date you and your bloated, pale sisters but you won't give 'em a chance - maybe it's time to stop shagging everything that moves, stop being bitter and angry, become more pleasant and maybe fellows of all races might want to spend time with you.
In turn, it would also be interesting to watch Western men finally get a reality check and discover that most of them are hardly "God's gift to women" and could never get this much action back in their home countries.
This is the truth about both genders of the expat community in China.

The women are no better looking than the men - they are about the same in regards attractiveness.

The facts are - for a western woman to get no action in the west, they have to be really disease ridden and repulsive, outside of that, most western women in the west can command a sex life.

I think most western men in China don't get all that much action - not that I know, most of the guys I know all over Asia (must be hundreds) have married something of their physical equal, have been in long term relationships with them before tying the knot and are happy. What's wrong with someone getting their physical equal? Nothing.

The only thing is happening is that the women now know their true station - they aren't that appealing if there is an option B - and the only reason anyone puts up with them back home is because there is no option B.
While there are exceptions, the plight of dating local men in China is still a bittersweet experience for Western women. We crave the chance to experience Chinese-style love and romance, but we don't look forward to getting ditched once marriage is brought up. We're a resilient bunch however, and won't be giving up hope anytime soon, so for all you single Chinese men in Shanghai, watch out because here I come!
Liar, liar, pants on f***ing fire. :lol:

One thing about white women, they hate being called out on their racism.

They won't be honest about their massive preferences for their 'own kind' so they will disguise it and pretend that us darkies and slant eyes have a chance with them when the facts are - we stand no chance with them.

But instead of just telling the truth, the lying slags just make shit up and confuse the likes of myself, Winston, Zboy1 and others into thinking there is something wrong with us, some of us go to pastures new and be happy, some of the thicker ones stick around and fight life and death battles for the attention of below average women who happen to think they are better than you because they are white.

If Steph was interested in Chinese guys - she wouldn't give a shit what some white dork is getting up to in some expat bar in Shanghai. She would be too busy having a good time, instead of watching her Friends DVD's with her cat.
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She doesn't want to race mix. Nothing wrong with that and I fully agree and would feel the same myself there. However I would openly say yes I have racialistic views and don't believe in being more than friends with other races. Hence I have no romantic prospects here. If you called me racist for it I would say yes, thank you. Nothing wrong with being racist and only breeding with your own race. This woman would get offended and deny it.

I don't care if white men want to mix there. It is their life. As for white women, go ahead, but personally I will not want any romantic involvement with you afterwards. Ever.

They should consider by doing that they contribute to the decline of whites by not breeding white. They remove themselves from the white gene pool. If that is their choice so be it. But then don't complain about multiculti and decline of your way of life.

I hope she packed her vibrator. Otherwise she will have to buy a made in china one :lol:
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Kradmelder wrote:She doesn't want to race mix. Nothing wrong with that and I fully agree and would feel the same myself there. However I would openly say yes I have racialistic views and don't believe in being more than friends with other races. Hence I have no romantic prospects here. If you called me racist for it I would say yes, thank you. Nothing wrong with being racist and only breeding with your own race. This woman would get offended and deny it.

I don't care if white men want to mix there. It is their life. As for white women, go ahead, but personally I will not want any romantic involvement with you afterwards. Ever.

They should consider by doing that they contribute to the decline of whites by not breeding white. They remove themselves from the white gene pool. If that is their choice so be it. But then don't complain about multiculti and decline of your way of life.
I don't have a problem with preferences, I have absolutely no problem with your particular preferences - at least you are honest. The problem with Stephanie and many white women is their dishonesty - why can't they just say 'I find Chinese men repulsive' and then we can offer solutions to their lovelife drought - like moving to another country where they will be chased all around the block by suitable white men.

To blame men for not choosing them and then castigating them as losers who couldn't do so well back home is not the way forward, which is why a lot of expat men in Asia want nothing to do with them, because basically, most of them are slightly unpleasant.

What could turn it around is if these ladies just stopped pretending to be non-racist, state loud and proud their preferences and actually give some public love to their fellow white men about how great they are instead of calling them losers and maybe those white men - after feeling the love - will pick them over the lovely local ladies, who doesn't like being appreciated.

Stephanie put in the last paragraph because without it, she would be accused of being a racist, and that would never do. She shouldn't be so gutless about it. That is my particular point about this.
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Ja it is a blow to her racist pride that white men there prefer Asian women over her sour kunt. She should ask herself why they prefer asian. If she would say I won't touch white men here as they sleep with asians, it would be fine. Castigate them for race mixing and undermining the white race fine, but why call them losers when they have women and she is alone?

The whole basis of her rant is that she is racist and won't admit it.
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haha another butthurt white bitch who is angry as hell because white guys are dating asian women. We white men dont want you so get the f**k out and go back to America you bitch
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Kradmelder wrote:Ja it is a blow to her racist pride that white men there prefer Asian women over her sour kunt. She should ask herself why they prefer asian. If she would say I won't touch white men here as they sleep with asians, it would be fine. Castigate them for race mixing and undermining the white race fine, but why call them losers when they have women and she is alone?

The whole basis of her rant is that she is racist and won't admit it.
This is exactly it - white expat women in Asia must be some of the most deep seated racist people on the planet - I am sure your buddies in the SADF were/are very racist but they won't hold a candle to most expat women in Asia - they would make you and your pals look like KC and The Sunshine Band. :lol:

Very few white expat women marry or date local Asian men - but if they do, the shit they get isn't from the men, but from the women - and anyone who marries an Asian man in Asia is seen as someone who has lost the plot by most expat women.

It seemed natural and normal to do the same in China. I didn’t know much about China back then — a time when I could only communicate in Mandarin with a dictionary and lots of patience, and where my entire cultural knowledge was amassed from the library books on China I borrowed during the summer. But I figured surely I wasn’t alone in my feelings. Surely the other female foreign teachers at my college had secret crushes of their own.

Or so I thought, until one day when I was sharing lunch with my colleagues.

“Whenever I arrive at the airport in America, the first thing I notice is our men, how handsome and how tall they are,” one of my white female colleagues mentioned over lunch. “I’ll just stare at them for hours, as if I was Chinese and had never seen a foreign man before in my life.”

At least that woman wasn’t as blunt as another colleague, who used to bicycle with me through the streets of Zhengzhou. As we stopped on the corner of a side street and watched the mostly-male populous pedaling past us through the intersection, she grimaced.

“Chinese men don’t really seem that attractive.”

“How can you say that?” I asked her.

“I don’t know... they just aren’t.” She sounded too casual for a woman who just dismissed the entire male population in China.

How could these women just write off all Chinese men as undateable? The question haunted me as I pondered my crush on Tian. But it wouldn’t be the last time I would find myself up against these ideas. As I continued to date the locals in China and eventually married a fellow from Hangzhou, I would come to realize that most expat women in China agreed with my Zhengzhou colleagues. And sometimes, their dislike was just shocking. A European woman I worked with in 2001 famously told me that, while she found all Chinese men completely repulsive, she considered Chinese children so adorable.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jocelyn-e ... 27240.html

If they could get away without being called out for the racist bigots most of them certainly are, most white expat women would love to go back to the 1950's Asia - the one where the European colonial empires ruled the roost, where every expat enclave had a 'colour bar' and where all the local coolies and prostitutes had to use the tradesmens entrance and woe betide them trying to fratenise with the expats...

Unfortunately, most white expat women want to hold onto the privileges they have in the west, which is being slightly disdainful of men, so, now they are in a position where men basically ignore them, they can't or won't give up that particular privilige - but if they want to compete with Asia women, they are going to have to do it or continue having deep conversations about life with their cat.

Ladies, if you are reading this, it is about time you change your shitty ways and be NICE to the men (who are white...) you want to have sex with - nobody likes to be called a loser, especially if they know you want to have sex with them and they have a choice that includes someone thinner, younger, more pleasant etc.

Be honest about your racism, everyone knows really, especially Asian men - which is why they keep away, that and you outweigh them by a good 10 pounds at least.
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If this is all true. It just shows how entitled and stuck up and racist white women are.

Half it or good portion of it . Is white women attitude. I think if white women had better attitude and be more humble it be different matter.
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So, basically, it's a White woman who won't admit that she's a racist, so blames Asian and White men for that. Please...fu bitch! :twisted:

She would easily have opportunities to date Asian men, as I have met some happy AM--WF couples in Asia. It's just that she's jealous and hateful towards White man. First of all you cunt, if you weren't so bigoted, you would easily find Asian men to date and marry with. It's just that she won't admit, as Kraldmelder has mentioned, that she's anti-miscegentation and race-mixing.

Well, then just go out and say it then, you wrench! I have more respect for someone like Kradmelder, then for an Anglo bitch like the woman in the article.
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chanta76 wrote:If this is all true. It just shows how entitled and stuck up and racist white women are.

Half it or good portion of it . Is white women attitude. I think if white women had better attitude and be more humble it be different matter.
The fault of white womens attitude is white men - who are far too compliant to shitty, bad behaviour from these creatures that even the fat, ugly, personality free ones think they are Beyonce.

And wherever these white knight wankers go - they ruin it - apparently, it's getting pretty bad in Thailand - where some Issan chimp without two baht to her name is making demands on these guys and they roll over. If you let the slaves rule the plantation then this is what happens.

Expat women think the situation is f***ed up in Asia when the reality is the situation is f***ed up back home, where most men have only got an option to entertain, and if they are out of the desired spectrum regards race, colour, nationality, income, class - they're out of the game full stop.

Being part of the game (if you decide to play) is being subjected to female disdain - of course, this doesn't work in Asia because there is an option B which most men take and this annoys white expat women to no end as they are the ones left out in the cold.

She could get rid of her racism and date Asian men, but what will she be able to do about her disdain for men? Does it cross over? I don't think it does.
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if you're a white guy I suggest you to avoid white women and only f**k brown women. I'm not even attracted to white women and brown girls are just so much better than white women.
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zboy1 wrote:So, basically, it's a White woman who won't admit that she's a racist, so blames Asian and White men for that. Please...fu bitch! :twisted:

She would easily have opportunities to date Asian men, as I have met some happy AM--WF couples in Asia. It's just that she's jealous and hateful towards White man. First of all you c**t, if you weren't so bigoted, you would easily find Asian men to date and marry with. It's just that she won't admit, as Kraldmelder has mentioned, that she's anti-miscegentation and race-mixing.

Well, then just go out and say it then, you wrench! I have more respect for someone like Kradmelder, then for an Anglo bitch like the woman in the article.
I have known of a few 'AM-WF' couples, usually the woman is Russian or German, Swiss, Austrian etc. I have met many more women who would never entertain the thought of dating an Asian man, when they would lament to me about their lack of dating options, look there are men all around you (albeit Chinese or Korean) she would usually say she didn't mean them. :roll:

I find most white 'Anglo' women are anti-miscegenation when it comes down to it, they might not be against it for other people on principle but they would never partake. In fact, there was a Princeton study regards this, the higher class the white woman in regards upbringing, looks, education, physique etc, the less likely she is going to date outside her race.
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The weird thing to me in that article was that she thought the white women in Asia would be single until the men come to their senses. It seems like she believes in a false dichotomy where it is a choice between a string of one-night-stands with Asian women or a serious relationship with a white woman. What about a serious, life-long relationship with a quality local, Asian woman?

Some white men like white women more than Asian women. But why would she expect to find many such single men working in Asia? If a man likes Asian women just as much, what are the odds that he'd choose the white woman over millions of local women? Why would she spend her life in Asia if she is looking for a white man? If she wants to settle down with a white man, why doesn't she spend her most appealing-for-marriage years in a country full of the type of men she might marry?
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yick,

It's plain racism and hypergamy on white women part. If Asian men became the world domination maybe it might changed...but I think in the west..white guys screwed it up.
White guys could of controlled feminism but didn't..and look at what we have today.

I don't know what's going to happen in the future.I really don't. How are white people going to reproduce and have a family? If you go to white nationalist sites like stormfront.org..that's a BIG concern for them. That white women don't want to make babies or have family. There 's growing number of white men that wants a non-white women. For eons we had traditional family and women had their role and the same for the men but these past decades..it ALL changes. It's like a free for all.

I can understand why some guys just go the p4p route or monger route. It's not worth investing in a relationship because the women suck so bad. Mostly western women and it's getting worst by the day . It's sad really because without that basic social fabric ..society crumbles. Maybe in the west we need that reset button. Just like how the Roman Empire collapse we need that in the West.

But I see the spread in others parts of the world. Even in Asia.
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I think the white women there don't see it as a matter of submission or feminism. It is simply a matter of scarcity and novelty. She thinks it is just a novelty for Asian women and white men to go together, but that ultimately they'll want a white woman.

Lots of races think that way, despite what others here will admit. We all know there are people of each race who will have sex with other races but ultimately will only marry their own race. This is what white women in China are thinking of. That is that white men are just playing around with Asian women because they can, but that ultimately they will simply marry a white woman.

They are not thinking in terms of quality or feminism or being spoiled. They are thinking in terms of men sowing oats or whatever, and then waking up and wanting kids.

As for white women not finding Asian men attractive, there are probably a lot of non-black men who might work in a country such as Nigeria and find themselves very lonely, despite the countless Nigerian women around them. Now would anyone knock a Chinese man working in Nigeria who wants a wife but not a Nigerian woman, but at least another Asian woman? Especially if there were Asian expat women working along side him in Nigeria.
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chanta76 wrote:yick,

It's plain racism and hypergamy on white women part. If Asian men became the world domination maybe it might changed...but I think in the west..white guys screwed it up.
White guys could of controlled feminism but didn't..and look at what we have today.

I don't know what's going to happen in the future.I really don't. How are white people going to reproduce and have a family? If you go to white nationalist sites like stormfront.org..that's a BIG concern for them. That white women don't want to make babies or have family. There 's growing number of white men that wants a non-white women. For eons we had traditional family and women had their role and the same for the men but these past decades..it ALL changes. It's like a free for all.

I can understand why some guys just go the p4p route or monger route. It's not worth investing in a relationship because the women suck so bad. Mostly western women and it's getting worst by the day . It's sad really because without that basic social fabric ..society crumbles. Maybe in the west we need that reset button. Just like how the Roman Empire collapse we need that in the West.

But I see the spread in others parts of the world. Even in Asia.
If a Chinese man from China was working in Nigeria and wanted a wife but refused to marry a local, but instead sought some of the Asian female expats working there in Nigeria, would it be feminism and hypergamy which caused him to feel that way?

As for the White Nationalists who are afraid, they are suckers. We all know it is women's job to have children. That's what they were made for.
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