How many people thought Tsar would or would not go Abroad?

[hypermak]

I am but at this point I need an in and that in is $$$.

Be my guest, but I stand by what I told Contrarian Expatriate a while ago. You can't buy genuine female attention with $$$. If a girl needs to be tipped with hard cash, as opposed to a dinner out or a small gift, to be interested in you, it's both of these two things:

• she is, really, not interested in you at all but she is happy to pretend to pocket the cash
• if she is happy to pretend interest, or even love, because of the cash you give her, I personally wouldn't consider her a good candidate for a long term relationship.

If you have an intention to settle in a Bulgarian town for good, perhaps it's better to be patient, build a networks and make a move on a girl who you like. It's good to be a gentleman but the moment you start putting cash on the table, you're just perpetuating the stereotype of the American who thinks everything and everybody can be bought with the mighty dollar.

I don't know about Bulgaria, but that is not something we would love to see, in Italy.

[Tsar]

I am but at this point I need an in and that in is $$$.

Be my guest, but I stand by what I told Contrarian Expatriate a while ago. You can't buy genuine female attention with $$$. If a girl needs to be tipped with hard cash, as opposed to a dinner out or a small gift, to be interested in you, it's both of these two things:

• she is, really, not interested in you at all but she is happy to pretend to pocket the cash
• if she is happy to pretend interest, or even love, because of the cash you give her, I personally wouldn't consider her a good candidate for a long term relationship.

If you have an intention to settle in a Bulgarian town for good, perhaps it's better to be patient, build a networks and make a move on a girl who you like. It's good to be a gentleman but the moment you start putting cash on the table, you're just perpetuating the stereotype of the American who thinks everything and everybody can be bought with the mighty dollar.

I don't know about Bulgaria, but that is not something we would love to see, in Italy.

I lived in the suburbs in America. I prefer city life so I can avoid car ownership in Europe. I was told I really need a car if I live in a small town whether it be in Italy or Bulgaria or wherever else.

I figure that worst case I have a temporary girlfriend that is a virgin and best case that girl actually likes me after awhile and stays (especially if I was her first and she realizes she shouldn't breakup with me if I decide no more GF Allowance).

$200 to a teen girl in many areas of EE would be great but if she is supermodel or goddess level hot then $500 if she says no (for the first month). Weekly GF Allowance paid after date to be sure she acts like a GF. Unless she comes from an upper-class or rich family, most girls will take the money and become my girlfriend.

Since 2012 I have been posting how I need a virgin. That won't change. I might consider a temporary female FWB semi-GF that wasn't at this point if I really wanted a female companion but I would never actually view her as anything serious or that has real potential.

The truth is that it is not much different than a Bride Price except it only offers a chance she could become my teen bride.

[hypermak]

I lived in the suburbs in America. I prefer city life so I can avoid car ownership in Europe. I was told I really need a car if I live in a small town whether it be in Italy or Bulgaria or wherever else.

That is true. Only the bigger cities have decent public transport.

I figure that worst case I have a temporary girlfriend that is a virgin and best case that girl actually likes me after awhile and stays (especially if I was her first and she realizes she shouldn't breakup with me if I decide no more GF Allowance).

$200 to a teen girl in many areas of EE would be great but if she is supermodel or goddess level hot then $500 if she says no (for the first month). Weekly GF Allowance paid after date to be sure she acts like a GF. Unless she comes from an upper-class or rich family, most girls will take the money and become my girlfriend.

Since 2012 I have been posting how I need a virgin. That won't change. I might consider a temporary female FWB semi-GF that wasn't at this point if I really wanted a female companion but I would never actually view her as anything serious or that has real potential.

The truth is that it is not much different than a Bride Price except it only offers a chance she could become my teen bride.

Not to be a naysayer. but to anyone with a crumble of common sense this plan of yours is insanity. It has a very, very high chance to put you in trouble, and I mean ending up beaten to a pulp by the father or uncle of the girl, or a gang of her friends, or having to face the police/justice system in a country whose language you don't speak.

A sugar daddying relationship based on a mutual agreement between consenting adults is one thing. One where you give cash to an underage girl to stick around with you as a your "temporary gf" makes you completely vulnerable and dependent on her not putting you in trouble, not the other way around.

You are in foreign land and you should really be careful. Where in Bulgaria are you now? Sofia, the capital? I am sure there are plenty of safe ways to meet local girls and start a good relationship with one (or three) of them if there's something mutual going on. She doesn't have to be a teenager and a virgin. If she likes you, which is entirely possible, she won't need any hard cash tips to "like you more". If you really have money to throw at her, buying her flowers or treating her to a nice dinner would go a much longer way to show her what she means to you.

If, as you say you have an itch to spend $200 a week, you will be a lot safer and perhaps sexually more satisfied by booking an escort.

Just be careful

[Man With a Plan]

@Tsar - Okay, does this guy read anything people say beyond what he wants to hear? I'm pretty sure I just said getting a girl that young won't be easy. If I'm honest, NONE of the men here deserve one that young. You don't have the capital, nor do your have the mental/emotional stability needed to manage a relationship of that kind. Take it from someone who's been in age gap relationships before. You need to be rock-f***ing-steady at ALL times. Most of you here can't even admit you have problems in the first place. You do what you want, but just know that families in the parts of the world where young girls are accessible are no-go zones for f***ing around. Just like you guys hate the west or hate this or that, there are other people out there who hate the west too, and they won't take kindly to some western uppity random trying to pimp their girls.

You're a fool who needs a clue. Those girls you want to dick down? Those are daughters, man. You think those fathers and brothers won't cut your ass? You think you won't go missing? You're mad if you think you gon "change a girl's mind" with money, and if you did, she wouldn't be the kind of woman you want anyway. You'd end up miserable and unhappy posting on this forum about how "women in x are now ruined by feminism/the west!"

You need to plan, and part of that plan is seeking mental health services. You'll ignore this advice, so when the consequences turn sour and you end up in a shit sandwich, I don't want to see you posting here AT ALL.

[Man With a Plan]

Not to be a naysayer. but to anyone with a crumble of common sense this plan of yours is insanity. It has a very, very high chance to put you in trouble, and I mean ending up beaten to a pulp by the father or uncle of the girl, or a gang of her friends, or having to face the police/justice system in a country whose language you don't speak.

And rightfully so. Because 99% of the men here are not stable enough for long term relationships, especially with young virgins. It's also ironic that you all complain about western women and "gold digging", yet here he is intending to make a future OnlyFans thot out of an unspoiled girl who could, instead, retain her virginity and offer to a husband.

I don't know, Tsar. I usually don't wish bad on others but I do hope that you get a few lumps or something if you try this, if only to make you realise how insane you are. I mean, I agree with hypermak, and if I agree with anyone here, you know something ain't right.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

$200 to a teen girl in many areas of EE would be great but if she is supermodel or goddess level hot then $500 if she says no (for the first month). Weekly GF Allowance paid after date to be sure she acts like a GF. Unless she comes from an upper-class or rich family, most girls will take the money and become my girlfriend.

This is the way the world is going now. It was already going in that direction, but now that the world economy has collapsed and unemployment is so high, it has exploded.

Your GF allowance scenario is very plausible, but just ensure that the girl is over 18 just to insulate yourself from danger of running afoul of US law abroad.

I would also advise you to establish your dating relationship with a girl FIRST, then introduce the weekly allowance after you are together to serve as the glue and the means to keep her well behaved. It is also a great idea that you hinge the allowance on her EARNING it so that she does not grow entitled and spoiled. That can mean doing your laundry, being your task gopher, and pleasing you in other ways.

Keep in mind that you a GF allowance and Sugar Daddying are different concepts with regard to Lifestyle Enhancement Dating. Sugar babies are pulled into your orbit with money. GF allowances are incentives for relationship loyalty and good behavior. Younger, hot girls have the world as their oyster (social media, constant approaches by guys, etc) so the GF allowance tips the balance of power sharply in your favor.

Final note: Be careful very listening to the naysaying advice from Hypermak. He represents a small but vocal cadre of traditional men who HATE Lifestyle Enhancement Dating so they will use any and all tactics to dissuade you or warn you. You have to understand where this behavior comes from. These are men who feel that they lose out to men who employ the strategy because they could never compete on that level. Either they are too poor (Hypermak is an unemployed cook), or they are too cowardly to ever benefit from it, usually it is both.

A nice girlfriend who you take care of will fight for you, please you, and love you unlike any other because there are so few men willing and able to provide what you provide. The more men refuse to do it, the better off you will be!

I am glad to see the practice is picking up steam. Several members here have reached out to me in the PMs in the past, and seeing you employ this strategy is even further gratifying! So you do what is right for you, not what is right for seedy, little internet naysayers whose dating lives will never be as fulfilling as yours.

[Tsar]

Not to be a naysayer. but to anyone with a crumble of common sense this plan of yours is insanity. It has a very, very high chance to put you in trouble, and I mean ending up beaten to a pulp by the father or uncle of the girl, or a gang of her friends, or having to face the police/justice system in a country whose language you don't speak.

And rightfully so. Because 99% of the men here are not stable enough for long term relationships, especially with young virgins. It's also ironic that you all complain about western women and "gold digging", yet here he is intending to make a future OnlyFans thot out of an unspoiled girl who could, instead, retain her virginity and offer to a husband.

I don't know, Tsar. I usually don't wish bad on others but I do hope that you get a few lumps or something if you try this, if only to make you realise how insane you are. I mean, I agree with hypermak, and if I agree with anyone here, you know something ain't right.

Whatever happens will happen. Destiny is inevitable so I will find out what else is in my destiny in time. There is only so much a person can do to change their future, the rest is destiny. Everyone will know what I would achieve in 2021 and it will either be SUCCESS or FAILURE when it comes to my first attempt at getting my first girlfriend.

No, most girls will lose it to a teen guy or a boyfriend or just a male friend. Not a husband. Anyone here who thinks its any different for me to take it and be with a HS girl, vs a HS guy taking it or being with her, is the real insane ones.

Conforming to 21st Century INSANE social norms is the real insanity.

[Man With a Plan]

Well, you'll learn your lesson. Either way, when you fail, don't post your complains here, @Tsar. Keep silent.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

Not to be a naysayer. but to anyone with a crumble of common sense this plan of yours is insanity. It has a very, very high chance to put you in trouble, and I mean ending up beaten to a pulp by the father or uncle of the girl, or a gang of her friends, or having to face the police/justice system in a country whose language you don't speak.

And rightfully so. Because 99% of the men here are not stable enough for long term relationships, especially with young virgins. It's also ironic that you all complain about western women and "gold digging", yet here he is intending to make a future OnlyFans thot out of an unspoiled girl who could, instead, retain her virginity and offer to a husband.

I don't know, Tsar. I usually don't wish bad on others but I do hope that you get a few lumps or something if you try this, if only to make you realise how insane you are. I mean, I agree with hypermak, and if I agree with anyone here, you know something ain't right.

Whatever happens will happen. Destiny is inevitable so I will find out what else is in my destiny in time. There is only so much a person can do to change their future, the rest is destiny. Everyone will know what I would achieve in 2021 and it will either be SUCCESS or FAILURE when it comes to my first attempt at getting my first girlfriend.

No, most girls will lose it to a teen guy or a boyfriend or just a male friend. Not a husband. Anyone here who thinks its any different for me to take it and be with a HS girl, vs a HS guy taking it or being with her, is the real insane ones.

Conforming to 21st Century INSANE social norms is the real insanity.

I hope you succeed beyond your wildest imagination. Ignore people who try to castigate your personal path and decisions. They have their own agendas and it does not include seeing you flourish.

I always view men who try to "d*ck police" other men with deep derision. Their fears and hatred come personal issues, not from anything you do.

The "cuckold contingent" tends to be loud on this forum, but you do you.

[Tsar]

I hope you succeed beyond your wildest imagination. Ignore people who try to castigate your personal path and decisions. They have their own agendas and it does not include seeing you flourish.

I always view men who try to "d*ck police" other men with deep derision. Their fears and hatred come personal issues, not from anything you do.

The "cuckold contingent" tends to be loud on this forum, but you do you.

Thank you.

I think a lot of men might have feminist attitudes even if they consciously oppose feminism. They might also be jealous of people being willing to go after things they wouldn't have the courage to go after themselves.

I think a good policy that some people lack is a "live and let live" attitude. Like you mentioned, when men are cucks and they know it, whether it be consciously or unconsciously; it will make them resentful, angry, and envious of men who get what they want but won't do whatever it takes to get.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

I hope you succeed beyond your wildest imagination. Ignore people who try to castigate your personal path and decisions. They have their own agendas and it does not include seeing you flourish.

I always view men who try to "d*ck police" other men with deep derision. Their fears and hatred come personal issues, not from anything you do.

The "cuckold contingent" tends to be loud on this forum, but you do you.

Thank you.

I think a lot of men might have feminist attitudes even if they consciously oppose feminism. They might also be jealous of people being willing to go after things they wouldn't have the courage to go after themselves.

I think a good policy that some people lack is a "live and let live" attitude. Like you mentioned, when men are cucks and they know it, whether it be consciously or unconsciously; it will make them resentful, angry, and envious of men who get what they want but won't do whatever it takes to get.

100%.... And you hit the nail on the head when you call these types of men "feminists." That is exactly what they are because they hold MEN responsible for anything a girl does. They hold MEN responsible if a girl ends up on OnlyFans. They hold MEN responsible if a girl decides a transactional relationship is what best suits her. Lifestyle enhancement has been the relationship model that was in place for most of human history.

I wish you tremendous success and I hope you fill us in on how fruitful it turns out for you. I would be willing to bet that you'll have success with girls far better looking than any of your feminist detractors could ever hope to have. Trust me on that!

[hypermak]

@Tsar you're right, life is a series of actions and its consequences.

In principle I am not opposed to sugar daddying, not even the creepy-ass way Contrarian Expatriate does, or says he does. To repeat myself: one thing is to do it with girls of age, who at least are supposed to be responsible for their actions. Another is to approach girls who are underage, because of your burning desire to have "a virgin", and offer them money to have sex with you. Their families are against it, their friends are against it, the law is against it. It's not about being radical and non-mainstream here...it's about being plain insane.

I am not making a moral judgment here, I am just telling you, just like @Man With a Plan did a couple of posts before, that even trying to do it once can put you in serious trouble. Trouble you might find very hard to get out of, with little money and no local connections.

I am sure Contrarian Expatriate will be happy that he found one guy gullible enough to fall for his BS. When this ends up in tears, I am sure he will have a bag full of excuses to call himself out of this. He will probably say you were not charming enough, you didn't have enough game, or you gave too little or too much money, or the girl didn't have enough "daddy issues" to fall for it, etc.

[yick]

He is nearly 30 and has never done it with a girl of that age bracket but he is going to go to Bulgaria where he doesn't speak ANY Bulgarian and get these virginial teenagers

It's a joke! It's not about pissing all over his dreams but they have to be based in some sort of reality. The reality of planet earth and what teenage girls like and what they don't like. Apparently he isn't bad looking but gives off a weird creepy vibe - and as we all know, the biggest crime a man can commit with women is being 'creepy'.

[hypermak]

He is nearly 30 and has never done it with a girl of that age bracket but he is going to go to Bulgaria where he doesn't speak ANY Bulgarian and get these virginial teenagers

It's a joke! It's not about pissing all over his dreams but they have to be based in some sort of reality. The reality of planet earth and what teenage girls like and what they don't like. Apparently he isn't bad looking but gives off a weird creepy vibe - and as we all know, the biggest crime a man can commit with women is being 'creepy'.

I have the impression that this is yet another sign of the stereotypical "colonial" mentality American people have towards countries they know little about. Maybe they think Bulgaria is some sort of gypsy paradise like Borat's fictional Kazakhstan, where every girl who is past puberty has a "bride price" and can be turned into a sex you with a little bit of money



I do wish @Tsar all the luck he deserves in trying to be happy away from his homeland. But as you said, luck has to be helped with something feasible, within reach, and based on today's reality.

[Tsar]

Apparently he isn't bad looking but gives off a weird creepy vibe - and as we all know, the biggest crime a man can commit with women is being 'creepy'.

'Creeply' is an American and Anglo word invented by Feminist society to demonize respectable guys.