Lucas88 wrote: ↑June 29th, 2022, 4:15 pm
WanderingProtagonist wrote: ↑June 29th, 2022, 1:58 pm
I know more about this sort of thing than anyone on this forum since I actually have had experience talking to a lot of these people before. And while some men would rather pursue transsexuals. Some of it is just lust or sex related, but they still prefer to date actual women., Thats why there are a lot of guys who hide their faces when they get involved with transgenders because they are ashamed of what they are doing and don't want actual women or other men to know that they are sleeping around with transsexual people. This one Hispanic trans said this about Latino men who try to front being all hetero and masculine (which William is clueless about lol cause he thinks Latino people are so macho they reject all the gay shit and they don't) Truth is Latino men are just as faggoty as any other men and they have feminism in their culture as well.
The guys who go for transsexuals are typically not faggy at all. They are not natural sexual inverts as is the case with many of the effeminate gays but rather regular masculine men who are attracted to women and just happen to have developed an attraction for Tgurls through exposure to them either in real life or on the internet. So transphilic men act just as macho as straight men. In fact some of them are even paradoxically homophobic. They reason that Tgurls look like feminine women and what they are doing is therefore not gay.
This attitude might be even more extreme in Hispanic cultures. Hispanic cultures have a somewhat different conception of homosexuality than Anglo-Saxon cultures do. While Anglos tend to view as homosexual any sexual act between two biological males (including MTF transsexuals), Hispanic cultures seem to follow the Greco-Roman model of homosexuality. According to the Greco-Roman model, only the passive and therefore feminized partner in the sexual act is considered a fag while the active and dominant partner is conversely considered macho. This is why many Latino men have sex with Tgurls in secret and even think that it is a macho thing to do. They see no contradiction between boning a feminine Tgurl and their own tough-guy masculinity. Of course, those same Latino men are forced to hide their attraction to transsexuals because most Latin American countries are still traditional Catholic societies to some degree and many people disapprove of what they do. So they often compensate for their taboo secret through hypermasculine behavior and conspicuous expressions of homophobia.
A Latin American woman who I used to live with when I was in Spain told me that her brother who was in the Ecuadorian military used to f**k effeminate sissies (the term which she used was "maricas"). She speculated that he did it either out of pure horniness or because it made him feel like a big dominant macho man. Anyway, he was f***ing one effeminate sissy in particular and one day this same sissy smiled at him in public and gave him a flirtatious wave. Needless to say that open gesture of affection infuriated my Latin American friend's brother and he beat the shit out of that little effeminate sissy. This guy carried himself like a hypermasculine macho tough guy and was known to be a total womanizer.
I've also heard that a lot of bodybuilders are attracted to Tgurls. The reason for their desire to sleep with Tgurls is that those bodybuilders, who see themselves as the absolute pinnacle of masculinity, are turned on by the idea of being a big alpha male sexually dominating and humiliating a lesser man. But due to their huge masculine bodybuilder egos they could never accept themselves as being gay. So they f**k highly feminized trannies while at the same time living out their fantasies of emasculating lesser dudes.
MrMan wrote: ↑June 29th, 2022, 12:56 pm
Just on a visceral intuitive level, a lot of men realize that homosexuality and trans is disgusting. I remember when I was 7... I don't think I'd heard anything about trans or gay or anything like that, but on my 7th birthday, my parents took us out for a movie. This is probably the second one I remember after Star Wars. I remember seeing a Rocky movie was playing, probably Rocky II. But my parents said that wasn't for kids and took me to see an Apple Dumpling Gang movie. I don't remember much about it, but I remember in one scene, the actors disguised themselves as women. I found the sight quite repulsive and off-putting, kind of like the idea of doing gay stuff, except not as gross.
I think either a lot of men are afraid to admit their disgust at the whole topic because of PC/woke culture and criticism from others, etc. Maybe the brainwashing from TV, the education system, movies, and online has really imbedded itself into the thinking of some younger generations. The whole pro-gay things is just as sick as the trans stuff you find repulsive. Maybe you are younger and were brainwashed too young to see it. I read in an academic article that they authors knew of no real evidence for an actual phobia known as 'homophobia,' but I suspect LGBT propagandists use the term to describe this natural, healthy revulsion to homosexual sex and transsexualism.
And while there has been same-sex-sex stuff and trans stuff throughout history, many people within those cultures recognized it as immoral, as in ancient Greece. Also, Chinese traditional culture rejects this type of immorality.
It's also rather damaging to the individuals who engage in such things. Gay men tend to be more prone to suicide, and trans are much worse-- for those who are actually male but trying to be female. In psychological literature, gay men are more likely to delight in flaunting social mores and such. A body of psychological literature was written on this before it became considered immoral to explore such topics in academia.
But yes, I do also consider it immoral because it defies the revealed will of God. As for animals, homosexual behavior is not the norm. We live in a fallen world due to man's sin, and animals are not paragons of virtue. Should humans imitate animals?
What reason do you think that sex acts between consenting adults are necessarily moral?
I myself don't really care about what homosexuals do between consenting adults. I prefer to treat gays with basic human respect and compassion and never make a big deal out of their sexual orientation. I honestly believe that the more effeminate ones -- those who are natural sexual inverts and who are almost like transsexuals (indeed effeminate homosexuality and transsexualism share the same etiology) -- are born that way, cannot help what they are and are simply following their own nature. Even brain scans show that effeminate homosexuals and transsexuals have partially feminized brains. So I see no reason to discriminate against those people. I'd rather treat them kindly because they are simply acting in accordance with their own biological programming and don't really have free will in the matter.
That said, I do believe that a natural and mutually complementary dichotomy of yin and yang characterizes all of creation and that this reflects the natural order. Indeed even many homosexual relationships follow this same sexual dimorphism in which one partner is masculine and the other is feminine. While I'm not disgusted by homosexuals as people and wouldn't have a problem being friendly towards them, I admit that I find the idea of two masculine men having sex with one another disgusting. That's just the way it makes me feel since it goes against the natural yin-yang combination. However, if I were to encounter a masculine man making out with a feminine transsexual, even though the Tgurl is still genetically male it wouldn't disgust me at all. That is because my mind registers the feminine transsexual as the yin element coming together with the yang element of the masculine man.
The word "homophobe" is bullshit, a word the government made up. Hell even the pedophile ones use that word now. Same thing with transphobe. Nobody fears these people, they're just sick and tired of them. Especially since they act like they are so damn important that everyone must be tolerant of who they are while they get to freely be intolerant of others themselves. I don't see heterosexual people running around demanding the world to be tolerant of them. I honestly have no interest in giving everyone "human rights" just because they managed to con the world into believing they should be given rights based on whatever the f**k it is they want to identify as. Men like transsexuals because they like dick, plain and simple. There is a reason why the ones that still have male genitalia are sought after more than the ones that had their dicks removed.
Hell even a gay person will call you a fag, this isn't something that only straight people say because "you are a homophobe". In the porn industry Post-Op trangenders are fully aware that if they get rid of their dicks, they will be unpopular and not too many people will be into that post op stuff. They will have to compete with real women. Because no man is going to want to watch that stuff even women don't want to see it. Just like the weird ass female to male stuff where the "guy" has body hair and a female part. That shit is gross looking as hell, even worse if they ever got pregnant and the kid has to deal with the fact a person that looks like a man who has a p***y just gave birth to them and identifies as a man. I would be traumatized if I found out a "man" gave birth to me. Like what the hell?
I'm also not going to sit here and believe that all these trans people in the world were born a certain way and can't help it. Most men want to be women because they fear being men, don't want the responsibility that we men must take up while women get to deny any responsibility at all, they don't have what it takes to be men and want special privileges like women, the same privileges they see women with where they can just do whatever they want without any accountability and then rub it in your face if you tried to challenge them. That's why some of them will use their trans status to avoid military service because women are allowed to do the same thing.
It's why you are also seeing a lot of these transgenders commit serious crimes nowadays especially in the West that over protects them because they know they won't get sent to a prison where they will be surrounded by men. In a men prison they will be prey for predators. But instead they get sent to women prisons where they get to be the predator that abuse and assault women that are helpless up against them. There were a lot of women inmates that actually complained about this, even women police officers felt threaten and uncomfortable having to deal with transgender felons and inmates despite being armed.
It's why they partake in women sports because they know they will automatically dominate the competition. The fact is, people shouldn't be forcing people to be tolerant of certain people if they don't want to be. Using words like "phobe" is something I find very annoying especially since homosexual people are notorious for acting like a "phobe" toward heterosexual people, that's the whole reason why they desperately want to convert everyone to be them and why some countries are smart enough to just out right reject them. I'm sure parents in Russia don't want to see their kids being groomed into that shit. Hell they'll even call parents homophobic or transphobic for being against them trying to groom their goddamn kids. The fact is, gays to me are no different than all the other "special" groups out there making demands.
Gay and transgender kids/teenagers shouldn't even exist, but they do because of gays and trans people groomed them into that followed by idiot parents that want to follow popular trends. Many years ago fewer and fewer young people even identified as any of those things, but they do now because of grooming. At the end of the day, a society full of homosexuals and transgender people isn't a society I want to be part of. No matter how attractive I still find some of those transgenders and even if I did ended up involved with one out of desperation I still wouldn't want them taking over society and every aspect of life like they do now. When shit hits the fan, and the tough gets going. They'll be the first to use their status to avoid being useful. I remember several men in South Korea trying to do this, and the same thing happened in another Asian country where transgenders were expected to enlist, they would try to use their trans status to get out of it since women were expected to not enlist. No country should have force enlistment, but the fact is if someone identify as a woman they are exempt from serving while everyone else dies so they can sit around comfortably bitching about how phobic, cruel, unfair the world is to them.
Just because a person may have come across a few "tough" homosexuals and there are stories of trans thai boxers/tranny mma fighters (who only beat up on women but would get their heads knocked off if they went up against 50 year old Mike tyson), they still wouldn't benefit society. Societies thrived because of honorable, spiritual, and strong men with strong values and principals and none of those men were Gay, allies of gays or transgender. All the greatest warriors throughout history were heterosexual men that married emotionally strong women that helped them raise healthy strong heterosexual sons that carried on their legacy. They weren't grooming their kids to be the most hottest homo, queer, and tranny in town. They didn't have pride parades treating the most useless people of society as if they are to be celebrated all because they pretend to be shit they aren't and f**k the same sex.
What I do know is that decaying societies like America that's controlled by glomohomo as they are called is a f***ing failure and a mess. If gays and trans people were so important they would get off their sorry weak asses and fix San Fransisco instead of standing around protesting women's "rights" to murder defenseless babies outside of churches and being abusive pricks that exploit laws that let them get away with whatever they want while still hollering at the world for being "intolerant."
What I can say is that I would never deny my own sexuality. A lot of people are just closet homos living in fear and shame of who and what they really are. People try to blame this shit on society like it's society fault "Well if only everyone accepted them," No f**k that. Accepting them isn't going to do anything but put more thoughts into their minds that they need more and more rights, They already forced the churches to violate their own laws, beliefs, and principals since they have zero at all respect for people's religious beliefs. Now they believe they have a right to do what they want to other peoples kids or else the parent is a phobe if they deny them the "right."
If I was dating transgenders or having sex with them either due to desperation or just because I was "experimenting". I wouldn't be calling myself a heterosexual man anymore especially if I was going after the ones that still had a dick vs Post-Ops trans but those fake vagina's scare me, and there is no way in hell I'm sticking my junk into one of those. Transgenderism is a mental illness, it's only become acceptable because it's forced on the masses. Men aren't women and women aren't men, some trans people understand this and will admit it themselves but they are very few compared to the ones who demand you to actually believe they are one of the other genders or else you are a phobe if you don't. People trying to identify as something they are not is lying and bullshitting. It's like someone bleaching their skin because they want to be white. There was a black woman that did that because she resented being black so bad she wanted to be white, so she got her skinned bleached and only dated white men, that's why I laughed when my grandmother said "But your ass is still a negro!"
) and who behave more like semi-masculine androgynous beings rather than like actual women. In this day and age a subset of feminized gayboys (I don't want to be transphobic but that's what they are) are of greater feminine quality than most women and some guys are choosing to date them over women because of this.