Are Western Men losing the culture war because of Radical Vocal minorities?

[ArchibaultNew]

Hello everyone,

This post was partially inspired by Outcast. But also by other guys that I've met online. Guys who follow the TRP, Blackpill, Lookmax, MGTOW. I would say a guy like Outcast is not the exception but the norm, at least when it comes to online forums. In essence their ideology is "reactionary." It is hearkening back to a different much different time where the church regulated the sexual behavior of both women and men. It's the opposite of individual freedom, much more of a "Puritan Traditionalism." While on paper, this might sound fine.

In reality is awful since this views are so "radical" that the mainstream see these guys like "cavemen" or "patriarchs" who have no place in the "modern world." Hence, why they become "easy targets' for Feminists like Laura Bates. The guys advocating for TRP or Blackpill ideologies, are actually Businessmen who sell their followers are "return to a greater time" even if it is quite likely untenable.

Instead of offering "tangible" solutions like work on yourself. They offer them "intaginable" one's like "women are to blame for all your woes. Society is against you." Which leads to online groups advocating for anger towards women. Then Feminists like Laura Bates will say, "You see they hate women and want to impose a Patriarchal system." These views only make the mainstream scare them off and leaves most pro-men ideas on the "dark corners of the internet."

Meanwhile, I see Feminists groups changing the culture year after year. For instance, they banned "booth babes." They sexualize men in all their shows, even Marvel movies nowadays have a "sexualized man" and a 'Plain Jane" woman. They are now advocating for "fat-acceptance" where most women will let themselves go and buy athlete leisure clothes. Also some women have turned to Lesbians hence they no longer care about men, leaving many men dateless. Which is fine if you are an Elite who want to reduce the population but terrible for heterosexual men.

I do believe some like Nigel Farage was able to win the elections but he had a more moderate party. I remember listening to a politics podcast from the UK, who said that only a moderate party could start changing things, like in South Korea. While a more "radical" party would be further marginalize furthering marginalize themselves and similar views.

[Mew6ix]

Grifters just capitalize on the anger of disenfranchised men, but feminists started the war against masculinity.

In Toronto, if you don't dress like a metro-sexual with neon-dyed hair and talk like a girl, you will be less likely to succeed in the government sector and office jobs in downtown Toronto.

Yet, these same women yelling that toxic masculinity is a threat to soyciety moonlight as escorts and open up their assholes for older men to f**k them like 50 Shades of Shit.

Feminism is a tool used by the elites to attack heterosexual men, leading to the current opioid crisis we have in Canada.

More and more men, especially former middle and working class White men are giving up in soyciety and are exiting it with one large dose of heroin or fentanyl.

Even me myself wanted to exit from this earth because how can I survive working a sexless existence and paying most of my paycheck for rent and groceries leaving nothing to save?

Isn't it a strange way for a Toronto man to be "Happier Abroad", even if it means exiting this planet?

[MarcosZeitola]

Hello everyone,

This post was partially inspired by Outcast. But also by other guys that I've met online. Guys who follow the TRP, Blackpill, Lookmax, MGTOW. I would say a guy like Outcast is not the exception but the norm, at least when it comes to online forums. In essence their ideology is "reactionary." It is hearkening back to a different much different time where the church regulated the sexual behavior of both women and men. It's the opposite of individual freedom, much more of a "Puritan Traditionalism." While on paper, this might sound fine.

In reality is awful since this views are so "radical" that the mainstream see these guys like "cavemen" or "patriarchs" who have no place in the "modern world." Hence, why they become "easy targets' for Feminists like Laura Bates. The guys advocating for TRP or Blackpill ideologies, are actually Businessmen who sell their followers are "return to a greater time" even if it is quite likely untenable.

Not sure where you get this notion that Outcast is some terrible radical; he's actually MILD by this site's standards. If you were to ask, say, @Cornfed or Tsar, they would tell you that any non-virgin is by definition ruined for marriage and suitable only to be a whore. Whereas Outcast maintains that it's perfectly fine to date or marry a girl who had a few exes and had sex with them, as long as she did not engage in one-night stands and hookups, as she would still not be a degenerate in his eyes. This makes him rather mild, as far as puritans and conservatives go. A true puritan would just dismiss all premarital sex, which he doesn't as he claims it "wouldn't be a realistic expectation".

Outcast is many things, and yes his views are far outside of "the norm" but he's not exactly an extremist. In fact any deeply religious person would probably label him 'too mild' for believing that it is fine for women to have sex, as long as it is within a relationship and not with a random dude. Taliban would call him a degenerate and stone him.

[have2fly]

Isn't it a strange way for a Toronto man to be "Happier Abroad", even if it means exiting this planet?

Go teach English abroad. This topic was beaten to death on this forum, but it will at least get you out of the country and it will get you decent women in another country. You will figure your life from there. When I talk to any young guys from North America I just keep getting amazed not a single one of them ever considers moving out of the country. They always look at me like I am a ghost when I tell them to try living a life overseas just using a basic skill they already have - English language. They are completely immersed into this wannabe gang-broke-get-weed-shitty-job lifestyle. There is nothing here for them. Even if they "get money" they will blow it on more drugs and/or casinos.

[Mew6ix]

Isn't it a strange way for a Toronto man to be "Happier Abroad", even if it means exiting this planet?

Go teach English abroad. This topic was beaten to death on this forum, but it will at least get you out of the country and it will get you decent women in another country. You will figure your life from there. When I talk to any young guys from North America I just keep getting amazed not a single one of them ever considers moving out of the country. They always look at me like I am a ghost when I tell them to try living a life overseas just using a basic skill they already have - English language. They are completely immersed into this wannabe gang-broke-get-weed-shitty-job lifestyle. There is nothing here for them. Even if they "get money" they will blow it on more drugs and/or casinos.

True. Funny thing I know a few men who won like $100,000 in the lottery, yet they continue to work dead end jobs and appear to be broke. Toronto especially is where money can disappear in an instant. Whether through a drug addiction or wasting money on an escort, they are trapped.

[have2fly]

You guys are lucky to have legal escorts in Canada. Also single payer healthcare. We don't even have those here in the U.S.

$100k is literally nothing here. If you live in New York or DC or California, it will run out in one year just paying for rent and buying basic food. So those people are actually right working whatever job they had and investing that 100k. I would say if you have $100k saved and there is a few hundred dollars of passive secure monthly income - you are good to move out of North America.

I was recently reading how everyone gets at least 20 paid days off in Europe and 30 paid sick days per year. Also mandatory paid 6 months maternity leave and there is paternal leave as well. Free higher education and extremely cheap single payer healthcare. I could not believe it! Those European people have a life outside of work? It almost feels like a fantasy dream land. Living in the U.S. I feel guilty if I miss a single day of work, but it should not be this way at all.

[ArchibaultNew]

Hello everyone,

This post was partially inspired by Outcast. But also by other guys that I've met online. Guys who follow the TRP, Blackpill, Lookmax, MGTOW. I would say a guy like Outcast is not the exception but the norm, at least when it comes to online forums. In essence their ideology is "reactionary." It is hearkening back to a different much different time where the church regulated the sexual behavior of both women and men. It's the opposite of individual freedom, much more of a "Puritan Traditionalism." While on paper, this might sound fine.

In reality is awful since this views are so "radical" that the mainstream see these guys like "cavemen" or "patriarchs" who have no place in the "modern world." Hence, why they become "easy targets' for Feminists like Laura Bates. The guys advocating for TRP or Blackpill ideologies, are actually Businessmen who sell their followers are "return to a greater time" even if it is quite likely untenable.

Not sure where you get this notion that Outcast is some terrible radical; he's actually MILD by this site's standards. If you were to ask, say, @Cornfed or Tsar, they would tell you that any non-virgin is by definition ruined for marriage and suitable only to be a whore. Whereas Outcast maintains that it's perfectly fine to date or marry a girl who had a few exes and had sex with them, as long as she did not engage in one-night stands and hookups, as she would still not be a degenerate in his eyes. This makes him rather mild, as far as puritans and conservatives go. A true puritan would just dismiss all premarital sex, which he doesn't as he claims it "wouldn't be a realistic expectation".

Outcast is many things, and yes his views are far outside of "the norm" but he's not exactly an extremist. In fact any deeply religious person would probably label him 'too mild' for believing that it is fine for women to have sex, as long as it is within a relationship and not with a random dude. Taliban would call him a degenerate and stone him.

I respect that he has created his own philosophy. Despite, me not agreeing with it.

In regards, to Cornfed, I haven't talk to him enough. I didn't know his views where like that. What I did know was that he could trace his heritage to England. I remember writing a thread about the English influence on American society, like American Prudeness. I haven't read much Tsar didn't he wanted to travel around.

What would you say is the percentage of guys in this forum who: Want to move abroad to get laid, Guys who want to move abroad to find a wife, guys who want to go abroad primarily to hobby/monger?

[Outcast9428]

If we are talking about the past year, we’re not losing the culture war. Even companies like Netflix and CNN are trying to rid themselves of radical leftists. SNL is trying to dewoke itself too. Most of the southern states and a good bit of the Midwest banned abortion. Mark Zuckerberg had to admit that the FBI made him cover up Hunter Biden’s scandals so that Joe could get elected. Tennessee is now banning gender reassignment surgeries for under 18 year olds as well as the hormones. They are cracking down on drag queen clubs too if they have children present.

The reason we were previously losing the culture war was exactly because of the moderates. Because moderates bend over and take it up the ass from the left and then pat themselves on the back for being the bigger man. The right only started winning when the radicals finally got a little bit of a voice and started saying “wtf are you guys doing? Your tactics are not working you’ve been losing for decades. You need to have a backbone and own up to your beliefs, stop playing by the left’s rule book and stop trying so hard to look moderate. All you are is a progressive going the speed limit.” At this rate all conservative values will be dead.

By the way, most girls that I’ve met, unless they are right leaning liberals themselves, actually say they dislike right leaning liberal type guys more then traditionalists because right leaning liberalism, from their perspective, is more extreme then our stance because right leaning liberalism tends to be hypocritical about condemning female degeneracy only while praising male degenerates, whereas our views, even if it’s very old fashioned and restrictive, are at least consistent and fair.

[Cornfed]

We are losing the war to scumbag elites who want to exterminate us, not their stupid underclass pets.

[Mew6ix]

White Canadian men are dying from a fentanyl and homeless crisis. What does Trudeau do? Bring in 500,000 monied Chinese and Indians this year, to replace the white man and create worst housing bubbles.

[CaptainSkelebob]

Hello everyone,

This post was partially inspired by Outcast. But also by other guys that I've met online. Guys who follow the TRP, Blackpill, Lookmax, MGTOW. I would say a guy like Outcast is not the exception but the norm, at least when it comes to online forums. In essence their ideology is "reactionary." It is hearkening back to a different much different time where the church regulated the sexual behavior of both women and men. It's the opposite of individual freedom, much more of a "Puritan Traditionalism." While on paper, this might sound fine.

In reality is awful since this views are so "radical" that the mainstream see these guys like "cavemen" or "patriarchs" who have no place in the "modern world." Hence, why they become "easy targets' for Feminists like Laura Bates. The guys advocating for TRP or Blackpill ideologies, are actually Businessmen who sell their followers are "return to a greater time" even if it is quite likely untenable.

Instead of offering "tangible" solutions like work on yourself. They offer them "intaginable" one's like "women are to blame for all your woes. Society is against you." Which leads to online groups advocating for anger towards women. Then Feminists like Laura Bates will say, "You see they hate women and want to impose a Patriarchal system." These views only make the mainstream scare them off and leaves most pro-men ideas on the "dark corners of the internet."

Meanwhile, I see Feminists groups changing the culture year after year. For instance, they banned "booth babes." They sexualize men in all their shows, even Marvel movies nowadays have a "sexualized man" and a 'Plain Jane" woman. They are now advocating for "fat-acceptance" where most women will let themselves go and buy athlete leisure clothes. Also some women have turned to Lesbians hence they no longer care about men, leaving many men dateless. Which is fine if you are an Elite who want to reduce the population but terrible for heterosexual men.

I do believe some like Nigel Farage was able to win the elections but he had a more moderate party. I remember listening to a politics podcast from the UK, who said that only a moderate party could start changing things, like in South Korea. While a more "radical" party would be further marginalize furthering marginalize themselves and similar views.

The true of the culture war is caused by both Marxism and feminism
The unholy union of the 2 most depraved demons of hell....
And not to mention an army of ragheads who are like an ocean eroding away the coastline which is western culture!!!
Marxists!!! Marxists are f***ing everywhere!!!
sjws and a pack of woke libtards who look like a pack of crayons with there multitude of hair colours!! They are marxists!!!
Socialists who are fat lazy bastards who think they should get a share of the pot even tho they do nothing to contribute!!! They are marxists!!!
Femicunts who think they have a right to stitch up their pussys and deprive honest men of sex!!! They are marxists!!!
blm who want to bring a superior race down to their level!!! They are marxists!!!
Soy boy beta gayboys who come along with their vegans and their enviromentalism who want the rest of us turning into little fags and depriving us of eating meat like real men! Instead they want us all licking moss off of rocks instead of some good meaty tucker!!! They are marxists!!!
These are the scumbags who are causing the downfall of western civilization!! Along with weak beta males who are trying to feminise all men