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Buying Property in Ukraine
Posted: January 23rd, 2023, 9:50 am
by Tsar
Is it possible to buy a $20,000 apartment in Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine?
I saw that it should be possible. There's legitimately nothing that I can afford to buy in the EU. If I always rent a place, then I can't save anything.
The most that I can legitimately afford is $500 for rent including utilities if I want to be able to save money for buying a place.
I need to think about buying somewhere in Ukraine for $20,000-$25,000. Then I have some of of home as my base.
Almost every other country in the world wants $50,000-$120,000 to buy an apartment. I wouldn't have that much cash for 30 years the way things are going in my life.
I'll probably need to just discard almost all of my possessions eventually because there's legitimately no point to owning much when I don't actually have a permanent home.
Re: Buying Property in Ukraine
Posted: January 23rd, 2023, 9:53 am
by Natural_Born_Cynic
@Tsar
Oh Please don't!!!
Ukraine is at War and even if they win, they are going to be bankrupt and become a vassal state of America.
Reconsider. Try different country.
Re: Buying Property in Ukraine
Posted: January 23rd, 2023, 10:05 am
by Tsar
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 9:53 am
@Tsar
Oh Please don't!!!
Ukraine is at War and even if they win, they are going to be bankrupt and become a vassal state of America.
Reconsider. Try different country.
I might not buy a place in Ukraine but I would probably be going there for awhile between trying to find something more permanent. I don't think Ukraine will win or keep it's current borders, but it will probably survive as a much smaller country.
Every ally of the United States is a vassal state, especially if it's in Europe or East Asia. There's almost nowhere that's actually independent if it has good relations with the US because the US doesn't have allies, it has vassal states and subordinates.
Re: Buying Property in Ukraine
Posted: January 23rd, 2023, 10:10 am
by Natural_Born_Cynic
Tsar wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 10:05 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 9:53 am
@Tsar
Oh Please don't!!!
Ukraine is at War and even if they win, they are going to be bankrupt and become a vassal state of America.
Reconsider. Try different country.
I might not buy a place in Ukraine but I would probably be going there for awhile between trying to find something more permanent. I don't think Ukraine will win or keep it's current borders, but it will probably survive as a much smaller country.
Every ally of the United States is a vassal state, especially if it's in Europe or East Asia. There's almost nowhere that's actually independent if it has good relations with the US because the US doesn't have allies, it has vassal states and subordinates.
Ukraine will be one or is one right now. I read their reconstruction cost alone is 750 billion dollars. It's going to be a lose-lose situation either way.
Whether they win or lose..
They might have to borrow the money from IMF or the U.S. And if they don't pay up, the IMF or the U.S will seize their assets or turn Ukraine into a vassal proxy state.
Re: Buying Property in Ukraine
Posted: January 23rd, 2023, 10:18 am
by Natural_Born_Cynic
The best option for Ukraine was not to be in a war in the first place, but they miscalculated and thought the West would fully help them right away.
Ukraine have to pay 750 billion in reconstruction, pay a heavy heavy human price , lost territories and potential revenues. I read there was big oil and natural reserves in the Donbass and Luhansk region. Ukraine could've potentially become a regional power. But it missed it's chance.
Re: Buying Property in Ukraine
Posted: January 23rd, 2023, 10:19 am
by Tsar
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 10:10 am
Tsar wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 10:05 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 9:53 am
@Tsar
Oh Please don't!!!
Ukraine is at War and even if they win, they are going to be bankrupt and become a vassal state of America.
Reconsider. Try different country.
I might not buy a place in Ukraine but I would probably be going there for awhile between trying to find something more permanent. I don't think Ukraine will win or keep it's current borders, but it will probably survive as a much smaller country.
Every ally of the United States is a vassal state, especially if it's in Europe or East Asia. There's almost nowhere that's actually independent if it has good relations with the US because the US doesn't have allies, it has vassal states and subordinates.
Ukraine will be one or is one right now. I read their reconstruction cost alone is 750 billion dollars. It's going to be a lose-lose situation either way.
Whether they win or lose..
They might have to borrow the money from IMF or the U.S. And if they don't pay up, the IMF or the U.S will seize their assets or turn Ukraine into a vassal proxy state.
It was already a vassal proxy state being privatized and sold off since 2014.
The cost will keep rising the longer the war goes on and add in the lend-lease, US-NATO money and equipment, and other loans then it's going to be in the trillions. The US and the EU would sacrifice their own development and are sacrificing their own development.
Re: Buying Property in Ukraine
Posted: January 25th, 2023, 4:39 am
by Voyager1
Tsar wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 9:50 am
Is it possible to buy a $20,000 apartment in Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine?
I saw that it should be possible. There's legitimately nothing that I can afford to buy in the EU. If I always rent a place, then I can't save anything.
The most that I can legitimately afford is $500 for rent including utilities if I want to be able to save money for buying a place.
I need to think about buying somewhere in Ukraine for $20,000-$25,000. Then I have some of of home as my base.
Almost every other country in the world wants $50,000-$120,000 to buy an apartment. I wouldn't have that much cash for 30 years the way things are going in my life.
I'll probably need to just discard almost all of my possessions eventually because there's legitimately no point to owning much when I don't actually have a permanent home.
I thought you said you were broke. Where are you getting this 20-25k? A family member?
Yes, you can buy an apartment for that in the city you mentioned. Even some of the larger cities though not in the center.
Re: Buying Property in Ukraine
Posted: January 25th, 2023, 8:00 am
by Tsar
Voyager1 wrote: ↑January 25th, 2023, 4:39 am
Tsar wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 9:50 am
Is it possible to buy a $20,000 apartment in Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine?
I saw that it should be possible. There's legitimately nothing that I can afford to buy in the EU. If I always rent a place, then I can't save anything.
The most that I can legitimately afford is $500 for rent including utilities if I want to be able to save money for buying a place.
I need to think about buying somewhere in Ukraine for $20,000-$25,000. Then I have some of of home as my base.
Almost every other country in the world wants $50,000-$120,000 to buy an apartment. I wouldn't have that much cash for 30 years the way things are going in my life.
I'll probably need to just discard almost all of my possessions eventually because there's legitimately no point to owning much when I don't actually have a permanent home.
I thought you said you were broke. Where are you getting this 20-25k? A family member?
Yes, you can buy an apartment for that in the city you mentioned. Even some of the larger cities though not in the center.
I am broke. I need to save for it then buy it after 2-3 years.
If I had the money then I shouldn't ever become homeless.
Re: Buying Property in Ukraine
Posted: January 25th, 2023, 8:22 am
by Cornfed
Tsar wrote: ↑January 25th, 2023, 8:00 am
I am broke.
I thought you were getting $1k a month from somewhere.
Re: Buying Property in Ukraine
Posted: January 25th, 2023, 8:29 am
by Tsar
Cornfed wrote: ↑January 25th, 2023, 8:22 am
Tsar wrote: ↑January 25th, 2023, 8:00 am
I am broke.
I thought you were getting $1k a month from somewhere.
It's not always stable and I need to follow a budget. Hotels have gone up in price and it's back to living in hotels until I can find a new place to live. My life is never stable. I'm forced to live like a nomadic gypsy. I won't make the same mistake of trying to build a life for myself anywhere until I actually own my own apartment or house somewhere. I'm tired of living like a nomadic gypsy.