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what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 7:39 am
by 69ixine
If there was ever a pull eastward of the europeans,and America and europe became Estranged,which citizenship should I keep under such a hypothetical scenario.Give reasons.
Which one would YOU choose?
TBH,I rather live in holland,portugal,Belgium,spain or italy than anywhere in the USA.
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 7:46 am
by 69ixine
Nostalgia
Takes me back to my little yrs!I loved those years!
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 8:51 am
by 69ixine
im 5 5 so frisian people would tower over me,but they're such amazing ppls
Maastrichtians are amazing people too,but different,more catholic influence,and there are little ethnics.
I would be the only ethnic,but I don't care.
I am gonna get into home health aide care and save up money for the move,see if with my certificate I need to Reeducate myself by the dutch system,and know if I can work there in 'thuiszorg'or not.
this is the only thing keeping me sane,that I can move outside of this crazy depressing country with anti-social impure peoples.
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:00 am
by Yohan
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 7:39 am
If there was ever a pull eastward of the europeans,and America and europe became Estranged,which citizenship should I keep under such a hypothetical scenario.Give reasons.
Which one would YOU choose?
TBH,I rather live in holland,portugal,Belgium,spain or italy than anywhere in the USA.
I can speak only about myself, I am EU-citizen (AUT) AND holding permanent resident status in Japan.
Generally said, both US-citizenship and EU-citizenship are fairly good about travel and relocation to other countries outside of US and EU.
Of course it depends also about how much money you have, if you need or do not need to work for your daily expenses.
About myself, I prefer to keep EU-citizenship + holding additional Japanese permanent residence permission, I see no reason to do anything to change my present legal status. I will continue to live in Japan.
I never came back to EU during the last 40 years, but in case something is going seriously wrong in Far East Asia (Japan, SouthKorea/NorthKorea, Taiwan/China it is good to keep always an escape route in mind.
-----
About your question, my advice is to keep dual citizenship if possible in your case, and if not to keep EU citizenship - it seems better - just my opinion -to keep the nationality of an EU-country and to settle down in a smaller country within EU, which is politically and by military force not so active compared to the USA.
Such a country you mentioned in your comment is for example Portugal, not so expensive, good climate...
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:06 am
by Natural_Born_Cynic
EU CITIZENSHIP is much better than US one. First you get to live in 31 different European countries and second, you don't get taxed on worldwide income.
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:11 am
by 69ixine
Yohan wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:00 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 7:39 am
If there was ever a pull eastward of the europeans,and America and europe became Estranged,which citizenship should I keep under such a hypothetical scenario.Give reasons.
Which one would YOU choose?
TBH,I rather live in holland,portugal,Belgium,spain or italy than anywhere in the USA.
I can speak only about myself, I am EU-citizen (AUT) AND holding permanent resident status in Japan.
Generally said, both US-citizenship and EU-citizenship are fairly good about travel and relocation to other countries outside of US and EU.
Of course it depends also about how much money you have, if you need or do not need to work for your daily expenses.
About myself, I prefer to keep EU-citizenship + holding additional Japanese permanent residence permission, I see no reason to do anything to change my present legal status. I will continue to live in Japan.
I never came back to EU during the last 40 years, but in case something is going seriously wrong in Far East Asia (Japan, SouthKorea/NorthKorea, Taiwan/China it is good to keep always an escape route in mind.
-----
About your question, my advice is to keep dual citizenship if possible in your case, and if not to keep EU citizenship - it seems better - just my opinion -to keep the nationality of an EU-country and to settle down in a smaller country within EU, which is politically and by military force not so active compared to the USA.
Such a country you mentioned in your comment is for example Portugal, not so expensive, good climate...
I'm glad for you,that you like living in Japan.
You are also extremely intelligent,one of the best posters here.
The only place I like in USA is miami,and not as much as Lisbon or amsterdam.
I agree the EU citizenship is better,for political reasons,but also cultural ones-europeans are cultured and civilized-americans and new worlders not so much in my view.
I also think that European women are far better than american women and I am fine living in europe,not anywhere else,so I meant it in the context also and most importantly,of where would you rather live,the USA or the EU,and giving concrete reasons to make this a good discussion on this forum,comparing america vs Europe.
You have helped immensely,Thank you for your comment.
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:24 am
by Natural_Born_Cynic
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:11 am
Yohan wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:00 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 7:39 am
If there was ever a pull eastward of the europeans,and America and europe became Estranged,which citizenship should I keep under such a hypothetical scenario.Give reasons.
Which one would YOU choose?
TBH,I rather live in holland,portugal,Belgium,spain or italy than anywhere in the USA.
I can speak only about myself, I am EU-citizen (AUT) AND holding permanent resident status in Japan.
Generally said, both US-citizenship and EU-citizenship are fairly good about travel and relocation to other countries outside of US and EU.
Of course it depends also about how much money you have, if you need or do not need to work for your daily expenses.
About myself, I prefer to keep EU-citizenship + holding additional Japanese permanent residence permission, I see no reason to do anything to change my present legal status. I will continue to live in Japan.
I never came back to EU during the last 40 years, but in case something is going seriously wrong in Far East Asia (Japan, SouthKorea/NorthKorea, Taiwan/China it is good to keep always an escape route in mind.
-----
About your question, my advice is to keep dual citizenship if possible in your case, and if not to keep EU citizenship - it seems better - just my opinion -to keep the nationality of an EU-country and to settle down in a smaller country within EU, which is politically and by military force not so active compared to the USA.
Such a country you mentioned in your comment is for example Portugal, not so expensive, good climate...
I'm glad for you,that you like living in Japan.
You are also extremely intelligent,one of the best posters here.
The only place I like in USA is miami,and not as much as Lisbon or amsterdam.
I agree the EU citizenship is better,for political reasons,but also cultural ones-europeans are cultured and civilized-americans and new worlders not so much in my view.
I also think that European women are far better than american women and I am fine living in europe,not anywhere else,so I meant it in the context also and most importantly,of where would you rather live,the USA or the EU,and giving concrete reasons to make this a good discussion on this forum,comparing america vs Europe.
You have helped immensely,Thank you for your comment.
No brainer.. European culture and civilization is much sane and better than North American ones. U.S is a very cutthroat, selfish, no culture, barbaric, phony, greedy, competitive, soul sucking, flesh over substance and ghetto society. I only have the misfortune of staying here because
my parents immigrated into this shithole and now I have a job here.
Living in Europe sounds vastly superior than living in Jewnited States of Americ*nts.
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:26 am
by 69ixine
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:24 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:11 am
Yohan wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:00 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 7:39 am
If there was ever a pull eastward of the europeans,and America and europe became Estranged,which citizenship should I keep under such a hypothetical scenario.Give reasons.
Which one would YOU choose?
TBH,I rather live in holland,portugal,Belgium,spain or italy than anywhere in the USA.
I can speak only about myself, I am EU-citizen (AUT) AND holding permanent resident status in Japan.
Generally said, both US-citizenship and EU-citizenship are fairly good about travel and relocation to other countries outside of US and EU.
Of course it depends also about how much money you have, if you need or do not need to work for your daily expenses.
About myself, I prefer to keep EU-citizenship + holding additional Japanese permanent residence permission, I see no reason to do anything to change my present legal status. I will continue to live in Japan.
I never came back to EU during the last 40 years, but in case something is going seriously wrong in Far East Asia (Japan, SouthKorea/NorthKorea, Taiwan/China it is good to keep always an escape route in mind.
-----
About your question, my advice is to keep dual citizenship if possible in your case, and if not to keep EU citizenship - it seems better - just my opinion -to keep the nationality of an EU-country and to settle down in a smaller country within EU, which is politically and by military force not so active compared to the USA.
Such a country you mentioned in your comment is for example Portugal, not so expensive, good climate...
I'm glad for you,that you like living in Japan.
You are also extremely intelligent,one of the best posters here.
The only place I like in USA is miami,and not as much as Lisbon or amsterdam.
I agree the EU citizenship is better,for political reasons,but also cultural ones-europeans are cultured and civilized-americans and new worlders not so much in my view.
I also think that European women are far better than american women and I am fine living in europe,not anywhere else,so I meant it in the context also and most importantly,of where would you rather live,the USA or the EU,and giving concrete reasons to make this a good discussion on this forum,comparing america vs Europe.
You have helped immensely,Thank you for your comment.
No brainer.. European culture and civilization is much sane and better than North American ones. U.S is a very cutthroat, selfish, no culture, barbaric, phony, greedy, competitive, soul sucking, flesh over substance and ghetto society. I only have the misfortune of staying here because
my parents immigrated into this shithole and now I have a job here.
Living in Europe sounds vastly superior than living in Jewnited States of Americ*nts.
Most americans are mentally insane and also the women are ugly-on the inside and outside!
Europeans it's the opposite.
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:31 am
by Natural_Born_Cynic
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:26 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:24 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:11 am
Yohan wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:00 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 7:39 am
If there was ever a pull eastward of the europeans,and America and europe became Estranged,which citizenship should I keep under such a hypothetical scenario.Give reasons.
Which one would YOU choose?
TBH,I rather live in holland,portugal,Belgium,spain or italy than anywhere in the USA.
I can speak only about myself, I am EU-citizen (AUT) AND holding permanent resident status in Japan.
Generally said, both US-citizenship and EU-citizenship are fairly good about travel and relocation to other countries outside of US and EU.
Of course it depends also about how much money you have, if you need or do not need to work for your daily expenses.
About myself, I prefer to keep EU-citizenship + holding additional Japanese permanent residence permission, I see no reason to do anything to change my present legal status. I will continue to live in Japan.
I never came back to EU during the last 40 years, but in case something is going seriously wrong in Far East Asia (Japan, SouthKorea/NorthKorea, Taiwan/China it is good to keep always an escape route in mind.
-----
About your question, my advice is to keep dual citizenship if possible in your case, and if not to keep EU citizenship - it seems better - just my opinion -to keep the nationality of an EU-country and to settle down in a smaller country within EU, which is politically and by military force not so active compared to the USA.
Such a country you mentioned in your comment is for example Portugal, not so expensive, good climate...
I'm glad for you,that you like living in Japan.
You are also extremely intelligent,one of the best posters here.
The only place I like in USA is miami,and not as much as Lisbon or amsterdam.
I agree the EU citizenship is better,for political reasons,but also cultural ones-europeans are cultured and civilized-americans and new worlders not so much in my view.
I also think that European women are far better than american women and I am fine living in europe,not anywhere else,so I meant it in the context also and most importantly,of where would you rather live,the USA or the EU,and giving concrete reasons to make this a good discussion on this forum,comparing america vs Europe.
You have helped immensely,Thank you for your comment.
No brainer.. European culture and civilization is much sane and better than North American ones. U.S is a very cutthroat, selfish, no culture, barbaric, phony, greedy, competitive, soul sucking, flesh over substance and ghetto society. I only have the misfortune of staying here because
my parents immigrated into this shithole and now I have a job here.
Living in Europe sounds vastly superior than living in Jewnited States of Americ*nts.
Most americans are mentally insane and also the women are ugly-on the inside and outside!
Europeans it's the opposite.
Of course! American women mostly are 300lb, raging feminist, social justice warrior, into transgenderism and all kinds of leftwing brainwashing.
American education system is now trying to teach "transgenderism" in elementary schools now. Such madness! They should leave those kids alone, those sick bastards! American women are also butt ugly with Sarah Jessica Parker looking horse face and have an intelligence of a 8th grader.
I can't wait to gtfo of America and live in Europe.

Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:37 am
by 69ixine
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:31 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:26 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:24 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:11 am
Yohan wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:00 am
I can speak only about myself, I am EU-citizen (AUT) AND holding permanent resident status in Japan.
Generally said, both US-citizenship and EU-citizenship are fairly good about travel and relocation to other countries outside of US and EU.
Of course it depends also about how much money you have, if you need or do not need to work for your daily expenses.
About myself, I prefer to keep EU-citizenship + holding additional Japanese permanent residence permission, I see no reason to do anything to change my present legal status. I will continue to live in Japan.
I never came back to EU during the last 40 years, but in case something is going seriously wrong in Far East Asia (Japan, SouthKorea/NorthKorea, Taiwan/China it is good to keep always an escape route in mind.
-----
About your question, my advice is to keep dual citizenship if possible in your case, and if not to keep EU citizenship - it seems better - just my opinion -to keep the nationality of an EU-country and to settle down in a smaller country within EU, which is politically and by military force not so active compared to the USA.
Such a country you mentioned in your comment is for example Portugal, not so expensive, good climate...
I'm glad for you,that you like living in Japan.
You are also extremely intelligent,one of the best posters here.
The only place I like in USA is miami,and not as much as Lisbon or amsterdam.
I agree the EU citizenship is better,for political reasons,but also cultural ones-europeans are cultured and civilized-americans and new worlders not so much in my view.
I also think that European women are far better than american women and I am fine living in europe,not anywhere else,so I meant it in the context also and most importantly,of where would you rather live,the USA or the EU,and giving concrete reasons to make this a good discussion on this forum,comparing america vs Europe.
You have helped immensely,Thank you for your comment.
No brainer.. European culture and civilization is much sane and better than North American ones. U.S is a very cutthroat, selfish, no culture, barbaric, phony, greedy, competitive, soul sucking, flesh over substance and ghetto society. I only have the misfortune of staying here because
my parents immigrated into this shithole and now I have a job here.
Living in Europe sounds vastly superior than living in Jewnited States of Americ*nts.
Most americans are mentally insane and also the women are ugly-on the inside and outside!
Europeans it's the opposite.
Of course! American women mostly are 300lb, raging feminist, social justice warrior, into transgenderism and all kinds of leftwing brainwashing.
American education system is now trying to teach "transgenderism" in elementary schools now. Such madness! They should leave those kids alone, those sick bastards! American women are also butt ugly with Sarah Jessica Parker looking horse face and have an intelligence of a 8th grader.
I can't wait to gtfo of America and live in Europe.
Europeans are much more communal and equanimious,americans are cutthroat and it expands to the dating market heavily,but the product you are competing for is low quality.
that sucks!lol
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:39 am
by 69ixine
compare this to american music-music like the eyes is the window to the soul!
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:41 am
by Natural_Born_Cynic
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:37 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:31 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:26 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:24 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:11 am
I'm glad for you,that you like living in Japan.
You are also extremely intelligent,one of the best posters here.
The only place I like in USA is miami,and not as much as Lisbon or amsterdam.
I agree the EU citizenship is better,for political reasons,but also cultural ones-europeans are cultured and civilized-americans and new worlders not so much in my view.
I also think that European women are far better than american women and I am fine living in europe,not anywhere else,so I meant it in the context also and most importantly,of where would you rather live,the USA or the EU,and giving concrete reasons to make this a good discussion on this forum,comparing america vs Europe.
You have helped immensely,Thank you for your comment.
No brainer.. European culture and civilization is much sane and better than North American ones. U.S is a very cutthroat, selfish, no culture, barbaric, phony, greedy, competitive, soul sucking, flesh over substance and ghetto society. I only have the misfortune of staying here because
my parents immigrated into this shithole and now I have a job here.
Living in Europe sounds vastly superior than living in Jewnited States of Americ*nts.
Most americans are mentally insane and also the women are ugly-on the inside and outside!
Europeans it's the opposite.
Of course! American women mostly are 300lb, raging feminist, social justice warrior, into transgenderism and all kinds of leftwing brainwashing.
American education system is now trying to teach "transgenderism" in elementary schools now. Such madness! They should leave those kids alone, those sick bastards! American women are also butt ugly with Sarah Jessica Parker looking horse face and have an intelligence of a 8th grader.
I can't wait to gtfo of America and live in Europe.
Europeans are much more communal and equanimious,americans are cutthroat and it expands to the dating market heavily,but the product you are competing for is low quality.
that sucks!lol
Well that's what's happening in the U.S.

Transgenderism is a hot new fad here. I'll get out of here in few years once I have accumulated enough money for big dividend income from stocks and etfs. Right now, I have to grind.
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:45 am
by 69ixine
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:41 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:37 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:31 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:26 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:24 am
No brainer.. European culture and civilization is much sane and better than North American ones. U.S is a very cutthroat, selfish, no culture, barbaric, phony, greedy, competitive, soul sucking, flesh over substance and ghetto society. I only have the misfortune of staying here because
my parents immigrated into this shithole and now I have a job here.
Living in Europe sounds vastly superior than living in Jewnited States of Americ*nts.
Americans like to focus on irrelevant issues.transgenderism doesn't affect us,sure doing it to kids is wrong,but that also doesn't have a direct impact on us.
the shitty culture with a cutthroat dating and financial market does.
that is why europe is better to live in.
I also have to grind for about a year and I'm out.
Most americans are mentally insane and also the women are ugly-on the inside and outside!
Europeans it's the opposite.
Of course! American women mostly are 300lb, raging feminist, social justice warrior, into transgenderism and all kinds of leftwing brainwashing.
American education system is now trying to teach "transgenderism" in elementary schools now. Such madness! They should leave those kids alone, those sick bastards! American women are also butt ugly with Sarah Jessica Parker looking horse face and have an intelligence of a 8th grader.
I can't wait to gtfo of America and live in Europe.
Europeans are much more communal and equanimious,americans are cutthroat and it expands to the dating market heavily,but the product you are competing for is low quality.
that sucks!lol
Well that's what's happening in the U.S.

Transgenderism is a hot new fad here. I'll get out of here in few years once I have accumulated enough money for big dividend income from stocks and etfs. Right now, I have to grind.
Re: what is better?Euro or american citizenship?
Posted: July 2nd, 2023, 9:47 am
by 69ixine
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:41 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:37 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:31 am
69ixine wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:26 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 9:24 am
No brainer.. European culture and civilization is much sane and better than North American ones. U.S is a very cutthroat, selfish, no culture, barbaric, phony, greedy, competitive, soul sucking, flesh over substance and ghetto society. I only have the misfortune of staying here because
my parents immigrated into this shithole and now I have a job here.
Living in Europe sounds vastly superior than living in Jewnited States of Americ*nts.
[/quote
Most americans are mentally insane and also the women are ugly-on the inside and outside!
Europeans it's the opposite.
Of course! American women mostly are 300lb, raging feminist, social justice warrior, into transgenderism and all kinds of leftwing brainwashing.
American education system is now trying to teach "transgenderism" in elementary schools now. Such madness! They should leave those kids alone, those sick bastards! American women are also butt ugly with Sarah Jessica Parker looking horse face and have an intelligence of a 8th grader.
I can't wait to gtfo of America and live in Europe.
Europeans are much more communal and equanimious,americans are cutthroat and it expands to the dating market heavily,but the product you are competing for is low quality.
that sucks!lol
Well that's what's happening in the U.S.

Transgenderism is a hot new fad here. I'll get out of here in few years once I have accumulated enough money for big dividend income from stocks and etfs. Right now, I have to grind.
Americans like to focus on irrelevant issues.transgenderism doesn't affect us,sure doing it to kids is wrong,but that also doesn't have a direct impact on us.
the shitty culture with a cutthroat dating and financial market does.
that is why europe is better to live in.
I also have to grind for about a year and I'm out.