Carnio wrote: ↑July 29th, 2018, 4:49 am
Yes, Everything you said here is confrimed 100% on point. My best friend is Japanese. I also had one girl from Central China (she now lives in germany) who I was kind of close with who both told me the exact same thing as you pointed out. The chinese girl told me she was forced to study all the way up to 1AM everyday and still had to wake up 5 hours later to go to school. and If I am not mistaken, This kind of lfestyle is one of the sole reasons why suicide rates in East Asia is very high because failure (weither in school or getting fired from a good job) is pretty much a social death sentence and a loss of face that is very hard to recover from. Ironically I did notice that (chinese) immigrants who usually came to my city in New york often held the same standards towards their kids to uphold the Study study study mentality that they were supposedly trying to get away from...
Yup, that east Asian education system is horrendous and the pressure to do well is high, or be considered an "outcast" if you fail. This is one reason east Asian immigrants are happy to immigrate to the US or other Western nations. So much work work work,,....study study study. And it's not just school work that can be over bearing. It's also the regular work environment too. Too much cut-throat competition, people trying to out each other to impress their boss. I think it's not too bad compared to the US. But the peer pressure to attend parties and dinners with your co-workers after work is done is a big thing. I don't know if this is true in China. But in Korea, a lot of co-workers/colleagues go out drinking and have dinner together after dinner, and they are out drinking until 2AM. And this is also done even if there is work the next day.
For me, I like independence. I don't go out with a lot of my co-workers because people here in the US are more individualistic/independent, and usually spend more time with their families or non-workplace friends.
The only downside about living in the US, at least for me, is that it's hard to find a date, and girls here tend to be white-washed and trashy. I am not kidding you.
The US is only good for work, making money, and the college/university education system. Otherwise, the US is crime-ridden, people tend to be cold, isolated, anti-social, fake/superficial.
Yes, I am very well aware of "Hell Chosun" , in fact many Koreans tell me about it all the time when I meet them here in Kyrgyzstan/Kazakhstan.
By the way, are you a Kazakhstani person? Or are you an American person who happened to move to central Asia?
I know that there are a lot of ethnic Koreans living in Kazakhstan and moreso, in Uzbekistan. I don't know why. I guess back during WWII, a lot of Koreans fled Korea from the Japanese imperial military rule over the Korean peninsula.
They tell me how much they hate living there, Everyone expects you to work your ass off, 80 hrs a week, with so much debt to pay off, while trying to pay an ultra expensive tiny itty bitty room working at some BS job while your boss is constantly breathing down your neck. I am also told that culturly it is unacceptable to NOT work, even if you are already wealthy, making passive income, or living as a minimalist, people will often look down on you as a disgrace.
Yup, that is right. work work work. that is the only downside to growing up and living in an East Asian country.
however, I have noticed that compared to the past, people in S. Korea tend to take a lot more vacations these days.
The only answer I have to the many people who want to come to the US is , let them. There is nothing anyone can do or say that is going to change their minds until they really see it for themselves and in some cases , it seems some of them are truly happy in the US. I guess this is their "HappierAbroad". To each their own I guess.
LOL!
That is so true if you look at it at their (immigrant peoples') angle. Happier abroad in the US or Canada for the East Asian immigrants to flee a heavy work or study life.
But...at the same time, I know a LOT of Koreans who have returned back to Korea because they realize that the US is not the land of milk and honey. racism, being mistreated, having mean customers, police not helping you out, bullying in school, etc, makes immigrants return back to home.
I know ONE major factor that makes Korean business owners move back to Korea is the ridiculous TAXATION laws here in the US.
Every freaking money that you earn is taxed to every penny that you make. Business owners have to pay state tax, local city tax, federal tax. Tax tax tax tax!!! Ridiculous!
By the time you get your net income, you get jack shit left to support your family.
At least in Korea, the government there does not tax you to death. At least not yet. But who knows, the government there may copy the US government's taxation system in the near future.