Outcast9428 wrote: ↑September 21st, 2022, 1:34 am
Let's be real for a second... Asian girls have the biggest reputation for being gold diggers. Let's be honest about what our favorite girls are like. Asian girls care more then any other race of girls how much money you make. Yet they are statistically the least likely to get divorced or cheat on their husband. This is despite the fact that Asian girls are overwhelmingly married to guys y'all would call, "unattractive betas who have to rely on their money."
@Outcast9428 interesting stuff as usual, but can you point me to some recommended source to get a background what you're calling K-selected vs R-selected?
(I know I could just do a Brave/Yandex search for the terms but would rather have a source you vouched for.)
As for Asian women, I really love them a lot, and if I wasn't pretty much bonkers over black women I'd probably be one of the largest offenders for wracking up WMAF #s, even though I would regret any resentment it caused if the men found out (but it's looking more and more like black women might spare the Asian male population from my presence, so there's that
), however, that's bringing us to another point: Confident men, especially white men, who get a reasonably good polished approach to dating women are notorious for easily being able to get dozens of hundreds of Asian women in most places (definitely Japan, most Chinese speaking areas, Philippines, Thailand) without any pretension to showing off their earnings, even if they're reasonably well dressed or whatever. So both the fantasy of Asian women being uninterested in premarital sex (!!) or the belief that showing off $$'s is a good idea during the attraction phase don't really hold up to the reality.
Japan also has a huge cheating culture mirroring the typical "chick logic" in the West but on more widespread basis (e.g. like the chick logic "it doesn't count as cheating as long as we're just doing it doggy in the back of his car, as long as I don't go back to his apartment," etc, the Japanese cheating culture I heard basically says both wives and husbands don't count as cheating as long as they don't get caught, so....)
On the other hand, if you're talking serious relationships then I think you're on more firm ground in saying Asian women are more likely to expect a man to be a steady/solid earner, but the key thing is:
What would they do if they actually had a broader range of options vs just being surrounded in so many comparatively conformist men in their own societies? I don't want anything to do with undermining those societies and am not trying to tear 'em down, but seriously, there's massive drama amongst Asian men over white men cleaning up there to the point they write about white men potentially causing "systemic damage" in their countries, since so many Asian women are so easy for them, and in some places like Japan black men are getting into it now also (queue the drama now not only from the Asian men, but also the white men poaching Asian chicks who thought they'd gotten overseas to escape the black men stealing too many white women, and who they now don't want going there to steal the Asian women).
Outcast9428 wrote: ↑September 21st, 2022, 1:34 am
Black girls probably have the highest level of attraction to "primal masculinity" with Latina girls being second place. Both demographics of women are the most likely to get divorced or cheat on their husband. This is because the behavior that y'all promote, the PUA tactics, they work on R-selected women. They enjoy spontaneity, novelty, risk, excitement. They crave those things and that's why a provider type guy cannot lock down an R-selected woman by having money because R-selected women crave novelty and excitement more then anything. The tactics y'all advocate, however, don't work on women who are very strong in the K-selected genetic patterns.
You made another mistaken assumption about what types of behavior we're advocating as more effective, as I can tell from the following example you gave about the Pinay brushing off some guy who sent a lewd message (definitely not what I was every implying was the ideal strategy for attracting women in a natural way by being internally attractive to them and trying to wield at least some level of charm in conversation and so on, as opposed to risking gold-diggers).
But as for black women: I can tell you narrowed black women down to a more stereotypical type you have in mind there (not that there aren't a lot of that type out there), but just pointing out there's tons of different types of black American women also who are not like that at all, such as the way more conservative churchgoers to the middle class where the black women are rather noted for having huge #s more black women with university or advanced degrees, among others.
Actually amongst them is probably one of the best places to look for a woman who'd make an ideal wife for a lot of monogamists like many traditionalists claim they are, because a lot of those women put being Christian as a super-high priority and won't even let a man get much of a chance if he isn't at least somewhat compatible with her church. (Also, bonus hot tip to anyone interested in black women who might be like this: If you happen to be involved with one and you are also the type who goes off on periodic alcohol-buzzed tirades about jews, watch out for drama if you say the wrong thing about Christianity or imply or state Christianity was created by lying jews, even if most black women don't generally give a damn what anyone says about jews. I think the way black people reinvent Christianity can be quite nice and poignant in some ways, and their prayers are heard by Heavens/God/Angels and so on, but yeah, watch out if you come across as dissing Christianity or Jesus etc. But of course those of you who already consider yourselves JCs wouldn't do that.)
Anyway, some other things on types of black American women is that they have some of the same problems as Latvian women (I think maybe Russian in some places too) and others where the women outnumber the men in their communities so much that a lot of the men there start becoming spoiled because they can get away with a lot and still be confident they can get more women, sometimes juggling multiple women at a time while having a very high opinion of themselves but also acting like complete assholes sometimes while lazing around, sometimes even letting the women support them financially.
And in some cases I've noticed cases where both black and white American women ended up with a guy like this living at her house after he became the "baby daddy" that eventually the women throw the men out because he wasn't helping or even being nice to her in some cases, and she doesn't want to pay his expenses and his food since she already has to take care of her kids now.
But my point here is: These cases aren't necessarily just the type of women who you said who will react sexually to a more aggressive physically exciting or dominant (but unreliable) man and consequently end up single moms or divorced for that reason. Of course there are types like that though too.
Outcast9428 wrote: ↑September 21st, 2022, 1:34 am
My co-worker recently proved that. He was talking to a Filipina girl and he actually waited after a few weeks of talking to her but eventually just straight up said "hey I'm trying to f**k" and she responded by telling him to stop talking to her and blocking him. That aggressive, direct approach does not work with K-selected women. I've seen guys who look and act exactly like you think guys should be like, attempt the exact same strategies you advocate for, on K-selected women and the attempt falls flat on its face. I saw a muscular, Greek God looking dude who is extremely extroverted and super confident. He slept with probably 50 girls in the time he was my roommate. He tried to seduce a conservative, religious girl that hung out with my group of friends at the time. Complete failure, she barely spoke to him again. Just because y'alls tactics work on a lot of girls doesn't mean you've cracked some sort of code that will work with every woman on Earth.
Yeah, but none of that crudeness is ever anything I was advocating for, even though it's true that crassly sexualized approach coupled with not giving a !@#$ can get "Chads and Tyrones" laid a lot, LOL. Good stories though.
Outcast9428 wrote: ↑September 21st, 2022, 1:34 am
Now, I don't pretend that having money is going to work on thrill seeking, R-selected women. I have made it very clear in my time on this forum that my strategies will not work on a lot of women, I don't think they'd even work on most women. They do work, very well, on a certain type of girl though, and I've already seen enough results from this strategy to know that, while it could use fine tuning and better preparation, overall, it is working.
For the kind of woman I'm searching for, some degree of gold digger tendencies are inevitable so I don't consider them to be a red flag. K-selected women crave stability, safety, and reliability more then anything, that's why they tend to have what many men consider gold digger tendencies. Because a man's earning potential is a big part of what makes him stable and reliable. It also correlates with a woman who will not be ambitious and seek a career outside of the home, which, I would not want even in the situation you described of "a woman who wants my nuts." I want a woman who will prioritize me and our family. That's a rule I will not compromise on.
Yeah if you want a woman who stays in the home fulltime raising the kids and caring for the home then obviously her wanting the husband to be the breadwinner makes sense. The kicker is the attraction phase: If you want to find the type who wants to be a housewife, it's really totally mandatory that you find girls to date who want that from the start and say so.
Similar to the black women who are wisely screening out men who won't be compatible with their Church, you can't just expect it to work out unless you screen for it.
If you don't start with that type to begin with and get cerebral about how showing off $$ would theoretically be attractive to this type, the problem of getting gold-diggers who might claim they'll stay home and then just divorce you and make off with your funds later are dangerously increased.
I'm curious about the K-selected vs R-selected theory you've mentioned, but no way in hell can you fantasize that Asian women are genetically predisposed toward monogamous fidelity more than black or white women: Tons of Asian women are notorious for being the easiest lays to where they've literally turned former average joe white guys' lives into lewd fantasy playgrounds, and there's tons of scandals involving the wives as well.
They just don't register that way society-wide because they didn't originally have much other options, but once they did, look what happened.
The scandalous stuff I mentioned has nothing to do with me, by the way, I never have anything to do with cheating or trying to bag married women of any sort, and I hate all that "cuckolding" garbage just as much as
@WanderingProtoganist (well close to as much, I hate it too but boy does he hate it even more maybe) and think all that gross stuff is crap that accomplishes nothing but creating bad blood between people for no good reason, but I still just have to point out you're overestimating a lot of Asian countries and apparently Asians genetically for supposedly being less disposed toward casual sex or cheating...